Incline Disco Elysium - The Final Cut - a hardboiled cop show isometric RPG

[GrafvonMoltke]

You can instantly judge someone's sanity by their twitter posts

 

[Roguey]

 

[Inhabitants of Khorinis]

You can immediately tell someone's opinion on anything is fucking useless when they use the term "media literacy"

 

[Russia is over. The end.]

Disco Elysium is anti-communist propaganda by pretentious idiots who are as much "marxists" as a male tranny a "woman". Politics aside, it's a nice, artsy game with original ideas.

 

[NJClaw]

Baldur's Gate is more about politics than Disco Elysium. The former is literally about a mercantile organization manufacturing a goods shortage while its leader is willing to send nations to war to increase his power. The latter is about a depressed drunk who can't accept his woman left him.

 

[Harthwain]

He is correct though - a few examples on the subject:

Communism is straight up portrayed as crime against humanity. Multiple times. It's hard to miss that.

Indeed, the game is truly a monument to Communism:

YOU - How come there's *word on the street*?

RHETORIC - You keep saying things like *down with the bourgeoisie*, *eat the rich*, *sodomize the land-owners*, *impale all people who have more than 25 real in their pocket*, *literally murder all human beings regardless of their political beliefs* -- that kind of stuff.
YOU - Oh, right. That sounds like me.

RHETORIC - Funky-style. Very funky. So tell me. Do you have any more questions before we fire up the Big Communism Builder, or do we get right down to it?

YOU - Roll up your sleeves and start building Communism. (Opt in.)

RHETORIC - Oh yeah! Get the firing squads and the animal wagons ready!

No one wants to be associated with communism by the time you get there. The party is over. They'd rather call themselves socialists and social democrats. No wonder – commies got their asses handed to them 50 years ago. Their little commune got wiped off the face of the Earth. Even worse, the civil war gave foreign powers a casus belli to invade Revachol and now look at the shit we're in. Also, Kras Mazov, the father of scientific communism killed himself.

Don't pick this ideology. It's a swamp of melancholy and would-have-beens. Also, they, like, killed a lot of people. There's a smart centrist man who once calculated that communism has killed 100 billion people in total.

Joyce said how citizens of Revachol were forced to either fight for the communists or be killed by the communists. There is a scene with the firing squad after you pass Visual Calculus check, where communists executed people. There is Kras Mazov.

Also throw in a suggestion from Joyce that the whole revolution in Revachol started from a brain-eating virus transmitted by eating potatoes.

Baldur's Gate is more about politics than Disco Elysium.

Disco has politics (a lot of it, even). The difference is it doesn't take itself too seriously nor forces a particular agenda on the player.

 

[Terenty]

Why did this have to happen to the devs? Why? Disco Elysium 2 could've been such a fucking incline... Will we find traces of brilliance left by the original devs in the pile of shit it will inevitably turn out to be?

 

[vota DC]

Meme maker mode:



https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/632470/view/3653020827598145127

Introducing Collage Mode
Dress the set of your dreams with this brand-new game mode.

Today, we’ve rolled out Collage Mode: a new functionality that gives players the creative freedom to stage
just about anything
in-game.

Collage Mode grants you full access to characters, environments and props from the game, along with filters and frames to complete your Disco masterpiece.

Take over the narrative reins with the custom dialogue option in Collage Mode, which allows you to weave whatever story your heart desires.

Fabricate completely new dramas from unforgivable punch-ups to fruity yet forbidden kisses. Corroborate your fan fiction with screenshots directly from the game.

The possibilities of Collage Mode are vast and the silliness knows no bounds.

DRAG AND DROP


Place, rotate, and resize your favourite characters across the game’s painterly environments and then pick from a range of silly and sensible poses to strike.

WRITE DIALOGUE


Create a whole story with a single image by entering custom text that can be placed anywhere and even make it look authentic by using the FELD dialogue reel.

BE AESTHETIC


Bring out your inner Art Cop by applying weird and wonderful filters; choosing from rain, fog, and snow; as well as changing the time of day to capture the exact mood you’re after.

STICK ‘EM UP


Put gloves and guns in unsuspecting hands with a huge collection of items and clothing stickers or add extra style with new and extraordinary art from our talented collaborators.

GET FRAMED


Finish up by choosing a frame to wrap up your fantasy with audacious themes such as Kim Catsuragi, F**k The World, Visual Calculus, and Building Communism.

BONUS! SECRETS TO FIND


Hunt for never-before-seen scenes from across Martinaise history if you’ve got a keen enough eye for it and enjoy a velvety new voiceover from the game’s narrator.

Be sure to tag Disco Elysium on Twitter when sharing Collage Mode screenshots so we can marvel at your creations.

Can't wait for save Prime Junta mod, restore monarchy mod and murderhobocop mod.

 

[The_Mask]

Baldur's Gate is more about politics than Disco Elysium. The former is literally about a mercantile organization manufacturing a goods shortage while its leader is willing to send nations to war to increase his power. The latter is about a depressed drunk who can't accept his woman left him.

How do you factor in that you can die reaching for a necktie?

 

[PrK]

Baldur's Gate is more about politics than Disco Elysium. The former is literally about a mercantile organization manufacturing a goods shortage while its leader is willing to send nations to war to increase his power. The latter is about a depressed drunk who can't accept his woman left him.

How do you factor in that you can die reaching for a necktie?

Shitty build, git gud, don't dump FYS.

 

[Infinitron]

https://www.pcgamer.com/disco-elysium-novel-sacred-and-terrible-air-has-finally-been-translated/

Disco Elysium novel Sacred and Terrible Air has finally been translated​

This is clearly a Code 31 emergency.

You woke up this morning and thought to yourself, "Time to go to work in the shit factory!" Well, you were wrong. Today, the star-and-antlers flies overhead, because Sacred and Terrible Air, the novel by Disco Elysium's lead designer and writer Robert Kurvitz that shares its setting, has been made available in English and in full at last. Albeit, unofficially.

Sacred and Terrible Air was first published in Estonian in 2013, and featured art by Aleksander Rostov, designer and art director on Disco Elysium. "It sold 1,000 copies," Kurvitz once told Edge Magazine(opens in new tab). "So after that I succumbed to deep alcoholism." Fortunately, the videogame was a little more successful, which resulted in plans to translate it into English. However, the announced 2020 release window passed without comment. Now, with Kurvitz and Rostov ousted from ZA/UM and, last we heard, declaring their intent to continue pursuing legal options, it seems less likely than ever that an official English release will appear.

And so unofficial releases have emerged. While a previous attempt only made it up to chapter six(opens in new tab), we now have two full and complete English translations to choose from. The first was made available by tequilla_sunset5, who got together with some friends to hire a translator and an editor. Then, they tweaked the translation to ensure consistency with the game, saying, "as an example, 'Pale' is just referred to as 'grey' throughout the book, or some of the names are spelled differently than they were eventually done by the game team. When in doubt, we took the game translations as canon".

They also wanted to make sure the subtext and style was preserved as much as possible. "The Estonian prose apparently has a sort of dreamy, lyrical atmosphere to it which we tried to keep as much as possible with the sometimes strange order of words and descriptions that drove our editor up a wall…"

The result is an English version of Sacred and Terrible Air that includes Rostov's internal illustrations, a glossary, and an epilogue and deleted scene that were previously posted on ZA/UM blogs. It can be downloaded as a pdf(opens in new tab) or an epub(opens in new tab), or in a zip file containing both formats(opens in new tab).

Meanwhile, a different set of fans calling themselves Group Ibex have also translated the book. Their version is "a heavily edited version of a machine translation" that "went through several intensive rewrites, including at all levels by Estonian-speaking members of the team, to ensure meaning, prose and consistency." It doesn't include Rostov's illustrations or a glossary, though it does have the epilogue and deleted scene, which it inserts at the end of chapter 11 rather than keeping it for an appendix. It also translates a list of names from Elysium that were printed in the book's inside covers. Ibex's version is also available in pdf(opens in new tab) and epub(opens in new tab).

Which version should you choose? Let me get back to you on that when I've had a weekend to finally read this book I've been waiting for since 2019.

Verylittlefishes

 

[Verylittlefishes]

dunno if that was posted already, but someone started the translation of "Sacred and Terrible Air" into the human language https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K4sWvT2fY1irgjWmBaH-R8-miKGI5ZI5/view

https://www.pcgamer.com/disco-elysium-novel-sacred-and-terrible-air-has-finally-been-translated/

Disco Elysium novel Sacred and Terrible Air has finally been translated​

This is clearly a Code 31 emergency.

You woke up this morning and thought to yourself, "Time to go to work in the shit factory!" Well, you were wrong. Today, the star-and-antlers flies overhead, because Sacred and Terrible Air, the novel by Disco Elysium's lead designer and writer Robert Kurvitz that shares its setting, has been made available in English and in full at last. Albeit, unofficially.

Sacred and Terrible Air was first published in Estonian in 2013, and featured art by Aleksander Rostov, designer and art director on Disco Elysium. "It sold 1,000 copies," Kurvitz once told Edge Magazine(opens in new tab). "So after that I succumbed to deep alcoholism." Fortunately, the videogame was a little more successful, which resulted in plans to translate it into English. However, the announced 2020 release window passed without comment. Now, with Kurvitz and Rostov ousted from ZA/UM and, last we heard, declaring their intent to continue pursuing legal options, it seems less likely than ever that an official English release will appear.

And so unofficial releases have emerged. While a previous attempt only made it up to chapter six(opens in new tab), we now have two full and complete English translations to choose from. The first was made available by tequilla_sunset5, who got together with some friends to hire a translator and an editor. Then, they tweaked the translation to ensure consistency with the game, saying, "as an example, 'Pale' is just referred to as 'grey' throughout the book, or some of the names are spelled differently than they were eventually done by the game team. When in doubt, we took the game translations as canon".

They also wanted to make sure the subtext and style was preserved as much as possible. "The Estonian prose apparently has a sort of dreamy, lyrical atmosphere to it which we tried to keep as much as possible with the sometimes strange order of words and descriptions that drove our editor up a wall…"

The result is an English version of Sacred and Terrible Air that includes Rostov's internal illustrations, a glossary, and an epilogue and deleted scene that were previously posted on ZA/UM blogs. It can be downloaded as a pdf(opens in new tab) or an epub(opens in new tab), or in a zip file containing both formats(opens in new tab).

Meanwhile, a different set of fans calling themselves Group Ibex have also translated the book. Their version is "a heavily edited version of a machine translation" that "went through several intensive rewrites, including at all levels by Estonian-speaking members of the team, to ensure meaning, prose and consistency." It doesn't include Rostov's illustrations or a glossary, though it does have the epilogue and deleted scene, which it inserts at the end of chapter 11 rather than keeping it for an appendix. It also translates a list of names from Elysium that were printed in the book's inside covers. Ibex's version is also available in pdf(opens in new tab) and epub(opens in new tab).

Which version should you choose? Let me get back to you on that when I've had a weekend to finally read this book I've been waiting for since 2019.

Yeah, there is also a Russian translation by now.

 

[Verylittlefishes]

I didn't checked it yet, however

 

[KVVRR]

I remember trying the first fan translation of the book and being filtered the fuck out by the prose. I'll give it another go through the week.
I'm not 100% sure about the timeline but it'd make sense that the official novel translation didn't get released because of all this legal fuckery going around.

 

[gurugeorge]

Disco Elysium is anti-communist propaganda by pretentious idiots who are as much "marxists" as a male tranny a "woman". Politics aside, it's a nice, artsy game with original ideas.

I think it's just straightforwardly libtard humanist, with maybe a slight anarcho-communist tendency (i.e. Bakunin rather than Marx), it's just that the writer has a good, college/university-level understanding of philosophy and political systems generally, so he's able to articulate philosophies and political systems from their own point of view quite well, and then turn around and critique them fairly well too.

I think Eastern Europe, because of the Communist years, and on coming out of the Communist years, was probably the last bastion of general decent European humanist education of the kind that all intellectuals and professionals once had. Probably all over by now - pozzed the same as everywhere else.

 

[Maxie]

Disco Elysium is anti-communist propaganda by pretentious idiots who are as much "marxists" as a male tranny a "woman". Politics aside, it's a nice, artsy game with original ideas.

I think it's just straightforwardly libtard humanist, with maybe a slight anarcho-communist tendency (i.e. Bakunin rather than Marx), it's just that the writer has a good, college/university-level understanding of philosophy and political systems generally, so he's able to articulate philosophies and political systems from their own point of view quite well, and then turn around and critique them fairly well too.

I think Eastern Europe, because of the Communist years, and on coming out of the Communist years, was probably the last bastion of general decent European humanist education of the kind that all intellectuals and professionals once had. Probably all over by now - pozzed the same as everywhere else.

If you don't mind literally every piece of philosophy being supplied with materialist readings and musings about the social status of the author lol
Same reason why soviet books on Rome are unreadable

 

[gurugeorge]

Disco Elysium is anti-communist propaganda by pretentious idiots who are as much "marxists" as a male tranny a "woman". Politics aside, it's a nice, artsy game with original ideas.

I think it's just straightforwardly libtard humanist, with maybe a slight anarcho-communist tendency (i.e. Bakunin rather than Marx), it's just that the writer has a good, college/university-level understanding of philosophy and political systems generally, so he's able to articulate philosophies and political systems from their own point of view quite well, and then turn around and critique them fairly well too.

I think Eastern Europe, because of the Communist years, and on coming out of the Communist years, was probably the last bastion of general decent European humanist education of the kind that all intellectuals and professionals once had. Probably all over by now - pozzed the same as everywhere else.

If you don't mind literally every piece of philosophy being supplied with materialist readings and musings about the social status of the author lol
Same reason why soviet books on Rome are unreadable

Well that would be part of the humanism I mentioned. The materialization of philosophy is older than Marxism, and not specific to Marxism - it was part of some important strands of liberalism too (e.g. the ones that went into utility maximization).

 

[Lord_Potato]

If you don't mind literally every piece of philosophy being supplied with materialist readings and musings about the social status of the author lol
Same reason why soviet books on Rome are unreadable

If it is not overdone applying the materialist analysis to historical process can lead to interesting effects.

I remeber Michael Parenti's "The Assassination of Julius Caesar: a People's History of Rome" to be a pretty good read.

 

[Sunri]

I remember when i played this game and tried to go back in time the narrator couldn't shut up about womynx despite me saying that i dont give a fuck about them shieeeet that was annoying.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

I haven't completed DE yet but any speech about politics has to be done by filtering that through the lens of the MC's POV, which is that of a shell of a man who relies on alcohol (and extremes in general) to fill the void left in his soul.
The Ryan Gosling of RPG protagonists.

 

[JarlFrank]

The politics are a joke. Deliberately.

Every ideology in this game has good and bad points, but the way Harry expresses them is a mere joke, a mockery of what the other characters in the game believe. If you embrace politics, it's basically a cope - a replacement for your own life which is in shambles and you can't get fixed. An obsession Harry can occupy his mind with so it doesn't keep going back to his ex over and over and over again.

Personally I thought that the fascist path is the one that promises the best results for Harry's future, but as an IRL fascist, of course I would think so. (But no, really, Measurehead has a point and he's one of the few characters actually pushing you to overcome your shitty midlife crisis.)

Saying "I'M A COMMIE!" or "I'M A FASCIST!" or "I'M AN ULTRALIBERAL HUSTLER!" in this game is the same as saying "I'M A HOBOCOP!" or "I'M A DISCO COP!", it's all just bullshit for Harry to hide behind and occupy his mind with an obsession that distracts from the ever-present, never-going-away memories of his ex, those few perfect months of his life, that precious time that will never come back, never, because it's gone - but the memories aren't.

So constructing an overbearing, obsessive personality for yourself is the best way to deal with that ever-present memory of bliss, that keeps squeezing your heart and weighs down your legs like a giant iron ball-and-chain around your ankle.

I Harry will never be able to forget Eve Dora and that's the root of all my his problems.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

The politics are a joke. Deliberately.

Every ideology in this game has good and bad points, but the way Harry expresses them is a mere joke, a mockery of what the other characters in the game believe. If you embrace politics, it's basically a cope - a replacement for your own life which is in shambles and you can't get fixed. An obsession Harry can occupy his mind with so it doesn't keep going back to his ex over and over and over again.

Personally I thought that the fascist path is the one that promises the best results for Harry's future, but as an IRL fascist, of course I would think so. (But no, really, Measurehead has a point and he's one of the few characters actually pushing you to overcome your shitty midlife crisis.)

Saying "I'M A COMMIE!" or "I'M A FASCIST!" or "I'M AN ULTRALIBERAL HUSTLER!" in this game is the same as saying "I'M A HOBOCOP!" or "I'M A DISCO COP!", it's all just bullshit for Harry to hide behind and occupy his mind with an obsession that distracts from the ever-present, never-going-away memories of his ex, those few perfect months of his life, that precious time that will never come back, never, because it's gone - but the memories aren't.

So constructing an overbearing, obsessive personality for yourself is the best way to deal with that ever-present memory of bliss, that keeps squeezing your heart and weighs down your legs like a giant iron ball-and-chain around your ankle.

I Harry will never be able to forget Eve Dora and that's the root of all my his problems.

At the end of the day, ironically, Harry is the ultimate NPC.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

I Harry will never be able to forget Eve Dora and that's the root of all my his problems.

 

[JarlFrank]

But it will make me happy

 

[Heroic Liberator]

But it will make me happy