Incline Disco Elysium - The Final Cut - a hardboiled cop show isometric RPG

[Ghulgothas]

Playing the Moralist quest now. Hardcore mode makes the checks unreasonably hard, and I swear I'm about to murder someone - especially since a long dialogue and long, unskippable cutscenes precede it. But other than that, it's pretty cool, I like it better than Fascist.

How'd you get it to trigger?

 

[Larianshill]

Spoiler

After the third day, you go to sleep, and Limbic System asks you what you're doing it all for. Depending on your answer, you get a quest. To give a certain answer, you must have a corresponding political thought internalized - since I internalized Kingdom of Conscience and Revacholian Nationhood, I could choose between Fascist and Moralist quests.

 

[Harthwain]

Playing the Moralist quest now. Hardcore mode makes the checks unreasonably hard, and I swear I'm about to murder someone - especially since a long dialogue and long, unskippable cutscenes precede it.

Sounds like you're save-scumming it. Why bother playing on hardcore mode then?

 

[Larianshill]

I want the achievement, no other reason. Disco Elysium doesn't become any harder to beat on the hardcore mode, since the game basically plays itself, it just becomes harder to see new content, so I feel no guilt whatsoever.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

You don't get a new portrait in the moralist vision quest, right?

 

[Larianshill]

Maybe you do, I didn't get past the second check yet.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Ah, thought you've finished it.

In that case, godspeed and keep us updated.

 

[Harthwain]

I want the achievement, no other reason. Disco Elysium doesn't become any harder to beat on the hardcore mode, since the game basically plays itself, it just becomes harder to see new content, so I feel no guilt whatsoever.

Ah, I see. I didn't realize there is an achievement for finishing the hardcore mode specifically.

 

[Larianshill]

Does the game feel agonizingly slow to anyone else now? After each interaction, there's about five second window where your clicks don't register, as the screen slowly drags, and whatever animations have been going on finish.

 

[Polyphemus]

Objective evidence of the decline of Cuno:

Alright, there's no way I'm playing with the new voice acting. It was bad enough that they had one guy voice every skill.

Is there much actual new content, or just these vision quests?

 

[Ghulgothas]

Is there much actual new content, or just these vision quests?

Some new area with new content, purportedly. No idea where it is or how to get there, or how tied it is to the 4 vision quests.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Cuno is a little cunt. I got a lot of satisfaction out of punching him to the ground now that I am playing a character with a good Physical Instrument skill.

Achievement Unlocked: Made Cuno Care

 

[Zariusz]

I started new game with Final Cut and it all feels weird, i just have this feeling "wait this shit wasn't there, there was something different". Its not about new content but more like changing what was there already. Ehh probably my bad memory, i finished this in 2019 and didnt touch it since i think.

 

[Latro]

more fitting for a PC game with professional VO

yeah, and combat with brainless power fantasy story is more fitting for a PC game developed by professional gamedesigners.

Combat is gameplay. If you cannot differentiate gameplay from “power fantasy”, it is because you are taking the video game a tad too seriously.

 

[Verylittlefishes]

more fitting for a PC game with professional VO

yeah, and combat with brainless power fantasy story is more fitting for a PC game developed by professional gamedesigners.

Combat is gameplay. If you cannot differentiate gameplay from “power fantasy”, it is because you are taking the video game a tad too seriously.

Go read some books, kid.

 

[Latro]

more fitting for a PC game with professional VO

yeah, and combat with brainless power fantasy story is more fitting for a PC game developed by professional gamedesigners.

Combat is gameplay. If you cannot differentiate gameplay from “power fantasy”, it is because you are taking the video game a tad too seriously.

Go read some books, kid.

Game by day and read by night bruh

 

[Alpan]

There is now a Klaasje comparison too:



The new voice has none of the mystique of the original. It feels bog-standard. Even before that though, and I'm not sure if this is an artifact of video recording, but the new voice kinda sounds like she's speaking over Discord. The mixing is definitely a bit off.

 

[Hellion]

I honestly can't fathom how one could possibly find "Old Klaasje" superior to "New Klaasje". Or even find her voice "more seductive".

Compared to the new VO, she sounded like a role straight out of a b-movie RLM usually reviews.

 

[Drowed]

She sounded bored/tired, but it was kinda the point. I didn't see much difference in the two cases.

But Cuno was a regrettable loss.

 

[Ghulgothas]

Tiago the Crab-Man is another unfortunate casualty of the redub.

Gotten a significant way into my Final Cut run, and so far the only new voices I like over the originals are Rene, Gaston and the Hardies (Not Titus).

 

[jackofshadows]

That is a very lazy, no proper Klassje comparison. For a proper one VO samples should be taken from

Spoiler

interrogation

scene, even if there wasn't that many bits. Something tells me this new broad didn't deliver in that regard but I could be wrong ofc.

 

[Alpan]

That is a very lazy, no proper Klassje comparison.

Disagreed. The initial encounter did more than the interrogation to set the tone for the character.

 

[Lithium Flower]

I like both the classic and the new VOs for their intended purposes.

What people are failing to consider is that VOs that sound good for a few lines, to provide maximum characterization for the character, may be overbearing or grating when extended to the character's entire dialogue. People bemoaning the change in Cuno's VO actor/direction don't understand how grating listening to him would have been in the long run - that's a good half hour of being screamed at by a manic kiddo-chan. Same with Joyce's steely delivery, or Kortenaer's drunken drawl. It makes sense that, for the purposes of full voice acting, the deliveries were scaled down to a more natural cadence.

IMO the classic VO was excellent at defining each character in a few brief lines, but the new VO is more pleasant, with nuances that reveal themselves in the long run. The change in direction showed that ZA/UM carefully considered the needs and limitations of both sparse and full voice acting, and picked actors and direction that harmonized with their design goals.

However, these comparison videos will naturally disappoint most, because they showcase a switch between an actor giving their all in a few brief lines to a restrained excerpt from a much larger body of work - as a result, line-for-line the classic VO will sound more lively. It's a lot like how Pepsi overwhelmingly wins in taste tests versus Coca Cola by the virtue of being sweeter, but the latter is an empirically more popular drink in the long run due to its more balanced taste.

Of course, ideally the classic setting would have used old VOs for this reason, but considering an overwhelming majority of people are going to play with full voice acting, I can see why they decided to save some disk space and just stick with a single, consistent VO for every setting.

Psychological is still king, though.

 

[frajaq]

These voiced skill lines are bothering me way more than they should

 

[GrafvonMoltke]

New voice actors are shit. Not reading the thread.