Deadlock - New Dota-like TPS by Valve

[Luka-boy]

Is that Gaben on the right after his neural linkage?

 

[Lyric Suite]

I don't get the setting. What is it? 40s gangsters, ghosts, robots, WW1 soldiers, aliens, batman villains in a city environment??? Are Valve employees just throwing anything at the wall, or something?

One of the reasons "hero" based games are cancers is that there's no rules of any kind. At least in TF2 there was a logic to the classes you could pick.

 

[ciox]

Demonic shit confirmed.

Valve is just really fumbling in the dark ever since they lost Viktor Antanov.

this but it's RedFall 2

 

[HeatEXTEND]

DotA and CS? Soul-sucking gambling dens.

Uh.....what?

 

[ciox]

DotA and CS? Soul-sucking gambling dens.

Uh.....what?

 

[HeatEXTEND]

Not an actual part of the game though, you can safely ignore all that shit, same for Dota 2.
Talk about ignoring that shit, I seem to have about 300 steam bux waiting for me in old CS boxes, some of these fuckers are going for 10+ dollars LOL

 

[Axel_am]

One of the reasons "hero" based games are cancers is that there's no rules of any kind. At least in TF2 there was a logic to the classes you could pick.

There is usually a meta in those game that narrows down which heroes are most competitive and most used in the current patch/season.

I'd say that the "hero" system gives Valve an opportunity to flex one of their strongest skills. Making funny and memorable characters. On top of that having more heroes (or classes) gives for a wide variety of gameplay and prolongs the lifespan of a game.

 

[Lyric Suite]

I was talking about the design and aesthetic.

 

[ADL]

Got into the test. I fucking hate MOBAs but this is pretty fun. Playtests are timed so I've just been playing against bots.

 

[9ted6]

Valve's always chased trends and tried gimmicks. HL2 was a physics test as much as HL1 was an engine test. They always focused on flash, showing off, and capitalizing on whatever the big thing in gaming was at least in their perception.

This is either, at best, an attempt to capitalize on hero shooter MOBA type games, albeit while they're declining, with wokeness added in as a bleak view that that's where gaming culture is heading and they may as well bend the knee to it now. At worst Valve's been woke for awhile and have been wearing a mask the entire time, and this game is less a greed driven attempt at cashing in on fads and more a crapshoot they don't know or care will be successful.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Valve basically has the attention span of a goldfish and all their non Dota non CS multiplayer games are dead. Both Dota and CS have a community that has 2 decades of history and thus is much more tolerant of Valve, but just look at Artifact and Underlords. Both were made to cash in on a modern trend (Online CCG, Auto-battlers)

Both ended up dead because it takes months for Valves to do any balance changes, or content updates, and basically has 0 communication.

Valve supposedly is a "horizontal" organization or someshit where dev just work on whatever project they are fancying at the time but this kind of approach is just bad when you are trying to make a Multiplayer focused game for a modern audience. Nobody going to wait for 6 months for Valve to make a patch when the launch state of your game is very problematic/lacking in content.

By the time Valve released their first patch most players who had issues with the launch state of the game will have just moved on to something else. Then Valve will kill the game after the first patch.

And Valve doesn't care about these failed projects because they are fundamentally vanity. Valve has 0 incentive to actually make a successful game: whatever game they can make is a drop in the ocean of profit that is Steam as a store.

 

[Mise]

Valve's always chased trends and tried gimmicks. HL2 was a physics test as much as HL1 was an engine test. They always focused on flash, showing off, and capitalizing on whatever the big thing in gaming was at least in their perception.

This is either, at best, an attempt to capitalize on hero shooter MOBA type games, albeit while they're declining, with wokeness added in as a bleak view that that's where gaming culture is heading and they may as well bend the knee to it now. At worst Valve's been woke for awhile and have been wearing a mask the entire time, and this game is less a greed driven attempt at cashing in on fads and more a crapshoot they don't know or care will be successful.

Maybe Valve of old was chasing trends. Now valve is chasing trends that are already dead. Card Game, Hero Shooter, VR they all released/will release games when the hype surrounding them was dead for couple of years already.

 

[Doktor Best]

So thats what they dropped VR for? Fucking Valve man. I dont get why people like this shit company.

 

[Hammer Of The Heretics]

Valve is not a video game developer. It is a digital retailer that allows its employees to make video games if they happen to feel like it this morning.

 

[Morgoth]

Oh Valve still very much works non-stop on games, it's just that they almost never release them.

 

[Morenatsu.]

Valve's always chased trends and tried gimmicks. HL2 was a physics test as much as HL1 was an engine test. They always focused on flash, showing off, and capitalizing on whatever the big thing in gaming was at least in their perception.

So is Thief a trend-chasing gimmicky stealth test?

 

[ind33d]

fuck i just realized deadlock was probably supposed to be a sequel to HL2DM before it got reskinned by Our Benefactors

 

[Morenatsu.]

I don't think even the old Valve would want to make another HL2DM.

 

[Cheesedragon117]

HL2DM?? It looks and feels more like a spiritual successor to TF2 than anything. Is this the reason for the stony silence on the subject of fixing TF2? They're that confident they can sweep it under the rug and move a still several-thousand-strong playerbase over to the new shiny thing?

 

[Morenatsu.]

TF2?? It looks and feels more like a spiritual successor to Artifact than anything. As in nobody asked for it.

 

[9ted6]

TF2?? It looks and feels more like a spiritual successor to Artifact than anything. As in nobody asked for it.

And as in Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.

 

[PlayerEmers]

https://uspto.report/TM/98576353

They just registered the trademark. For comparision, CS2 was officially released about 6 months after trademark registration but I doubt it will be the same here. Its still too early even for a open beta.

 

[Morenatsu.]

TF2?? It looks and feels more like a spiritual successor to Artifact than anything. As in nobody asked for it.

And as in Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.

being unfriendly to consumers is based. stop consuming

 

[deuxhero]

Got into the test. I fucking hate MOBAs but this is pretty fun. Playtests are timed so I've just been playing against bots.

Report the "they" pronoun thing as a bug. Call it a localization error.

 

[taxalot]

It's going to be one of those games none of us here care about but that will still be highly profitable isn't it ?

Overwatch 2 is dead. Maybe this one will have better luck.