Deadlock - New Dota-like TPS by Valve

[Alienman]

Don't even know why people bother with popular multiplayer games nowadays. Every server and game is the same.

 

[Gerrard]

The state of cheating tech is so far ahead anti-cheat solutions it's not even funny. I've seen a video about a program that uses a PCIE expansion card that allows the cheat program running on another PC to directly access the memory of your gaming PC, and it mirrors the game screen and displays all the information overlays on the other PC's screen, so you can use it even while streaming as nothing will show on your actual game stream.

 

[Inec0rn]

it doesn't even require that much effort, you can buy small rasp pi level hardware that accomplishes the same thing - why all A/V including kernel level are flat garbage. I've even seen autohotkey aimbots that can't be banned because autohotkey is a legit user program :D

yeah MP FPS died once it hit mainstream and cheat dev's could make serious money.

 

[PlayerEmers]

https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/11-21-2024-update.47476/

Forgot to post the patch from last thursday. Aside from balance and map changes, the main thing on this patch is matchmaking/ranked. They have merged normal matchmaking and ranked into one game mode, basically there is no way to avoid competitivefags and tryhards that used to play ranked most of the time. They also added a a leaderboard for normal MMR and hero MMR in the game. Not sure if I like this... I think they should really focus on the fun aspect of the game, not esports shenanigans (they can put somme focus on that later)

 

[Cheesedragon117]

The new Patron voices suck ass. I miss when they would practically groan their orders at you from beyond.

I really hope the merging of quickplay and ranked is just an experiment. Sometimes I don't want to sweat out of my mind playing a normal match.

 

[soutaiseiriron]

The state of cheating tech is so far ahead anti-cheat solutions it's not even funny. I've seen a video about a program that uses a PCIE expansion card that allows the cheat program running on another PC to directly access the memory of your gaming PC, and it mirrors the game screen and displays all the information overlays on the other PC's screen, so you can use it even while streaming as nothing will show on your actual game stream.

DMA cheats aren't that new and good kernel level anti-cheats like Faceit AC in CS, and Valorant Vanguard (Battleye too, to a lesser extent) can detect and ban them.
The thing with DMA cheats is that although bad ACs like VAC can't do anything about them (VAC can barely do anything about usermode cheats), it still increases the barrier to cheating a ton. Minimum investment for DMA cheats is like 400 dollars, plus a subscription fee for a cheat. Most cheaters aren't willing to go that far.

 

[Gerrard]

The state of cheating tech is so far ahead anti-cheat solutions it's not even funny. I've seen a video about a program that uses a PCIE expansion card that allows the cheat program running on another PC to directly access the memory of your gaming PC, and it mirrors the game screen and displays all the information overlays on the other PC's screen, so you can use it even while streaming as nothing will show on your actual game stream.

DMA cheats aren't that new and good kernel level anti-cheats like Faceit AC in CS, and Valorant Vanguard (Battleye too, to a lesser extent) can detect and ban them.

How the fuck would they detect them when the program isn't even running on the same PC?

 

[soutaiseiriron]

How the fuck would they detect them when the program isn't even running on the same PC?

You need a signed driver running on the system with the game, and a firmware on the card. Signing drivers is expensive, eventually it gets detected and all cheaters with it get banned.

 

[BrainMuncher]

it doesn't even require that much effort, you can buy small rasp pi level hardware that accomplishes the same thing - why all A/V including kernel level are flat garbage. I've even seen autohotkey aimbots that can't be banned because autohotkey is a legit user program :D

yeah MP FPS died once it hit mainstream and cheat dev's could make serious money.

It was when they moved from community dedicated servers to central matchmaking servers, so they could sell micro transactions

With community servers bots and cheaters would get banned within minutes. Reputable communities would share their ban lists so even casual servers were pretty clean.

 

[Inec0rn]

The landscape is also different now though with competition and ladders, a good chunk of FPS community has to been seen as elite and cannot lose games. So you get actual good players with cheats and don't set them up like retards and use them stealthily in games. It's virtually impossible to watch the player play if they know what they are doing and determine if they cheat. Multiple pro players caught cheating, multiple streamers caught cheating. Even cheating in closed off LAN events. It's endemic in popular (even not popular) FPS games.

I honestly think 30-40% of the player base in CS2 uses cheats, it's at a point where if Valve actually had the perfect anti-cheat and banned them all there would be backlash and I think they know this too. The FPS MOBA design is somewhat an effort to counter a single players power in FPS so more people can feel like winners cheating or not, and there's still cheats being found used there too. The fun MP FPS with community servers era is dead and buried, only zoomer tardo's that know no better play FPS now.