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CD Projekt's Cyberpunk 2077 Update 2.0 + Phantom Liberty Expansion Thread

solemgar

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So much wasted potential this game. Finished it finally with the dlc, it has moments where it almost touches the cyberpunk ethos , and in those the games shines. With a good rig, driving around night city with ray tracing makes the neon lights almost capturing the right spirit. And then you realize again you are playing GTA 2077.

As a cyberpunk game, first Deus ex does better, and even human revolution and mankind divided do better. Open world games don't do good for story driven RPGs.
 

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So is this good?

Resisted getting it due to glitch fest at launch (and because I'm a big Shadowrun fan who dreamed with a SR game in this formula, and so was full of despite for CP77).

Also, is base game only worth it? I would get base on current sale, and wait for a better sale on the expansion
 

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So is this good?

Resisted getting it due to glitch fest at launch (and because I'm a big Shadowrun fan who dreamed with a SR game in this formula, and so was full of despite for CP77).

Also, is base game only worth it? I would get base on current sale, and wait for a better sale on the expansion

A lot of us really enjoyed it well before the expansion ever came out. I'd say yes.
 

solemgar

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So is this good?

Resisted getting it due to glitch fest at launch (and because I'm a big Shadowrun fan who dreamed with a SR game in this formula, and so was full of despite for CP77).

Also, is base game only worth it? I would get base on current sale, and wait for a better sale on the expansion
Now that you remind me, SNES shadow run is a better cyberpunk game

Still , the game is finally playable end to end. The DLC is very well integrated with the main campaign. Kudos to cdpr here
 

IHaveHugeNick

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So is this good?

Resisted getting it due to glitch fest at launch (and because I'm a big Shadowrun fan who dreamed with a SR game in this formula, and so was full of despite for CP77).

Also, is base game only worth it? I would get base on current sale, and wait for a better sale on the expansion
It's good, obvously not nearly as good as everyone hoped for, but they really turned it around with patches.
 

Wasteland

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So is this good?

Resisted getting it due to glitch fest at launch (and because I'm a big Shadowrun fan who dreamed with a SR game in this formula, and so was full of despite for CP77).

Also, is base game only worth it? I would get base on current sale, and wait for a better sale on the expansion
PRO:
  • Fun combat, at least for the first 15-20 levels, on the hardest difficulty setting
  • Substantial character-build/play-style variety.
    • This is a marked departure from Witcher 3's largely superficial choices--do I want to be a rolling stabby guy with a side of cantrips, or a rolling cantrip guy with a side of stabbing, or a drinking guy whose potions make him stab or cantrip harder (while rolling)?
  • The cinematic story stuff isn't my cup of tea, but credit where it's due: CDPR is very good at it.
  • Beautiful presentation, sometimes almost to a fault.
  • Performance scales unusually well, both at the high end and low.
    • Don't be put off by the game's reputation as an Nvidia tech demo. You can dial down settings enough to play it on almost anything. The game won't look great on weak hardware, but it will most likely work.
  • Poz is present, but it's surprisingly unobtrusive, in part because body horror and degeneracy suit the setting.
    • Looking around today at our current tech overlords, and the state of modern California, if anything Cyberpunk feels strikingly over-optimistic. You could argue that Witcher 3's girl power themes are more in your face.
CON:
  • You do get wildly overpowered in the mid-to-late game. Even on the highest difficulty setting, most enemies will become minor speed bumps, eventually. At that point you can either coast through the power fantasy, or quit.
  • The story content has two major problems:
    • first, it's a bit unfinished towards the end, but more important is that it occasionally forces you into egregiously long railroaded sequences. In other words, the story manages to feel both too short and too long, no mean feat.
    • The DLC unfortunately doubles down on this latter problem, without meaningfully improving game play.
  • Level/quest design ranges from adequate to hauntingly mediocre.
    • I say "hauntingly" because this game stands as a monument to wasted potential, plagued by lazy "cinematic" design choices and what appears to be a fundamental identity crisis. Cyberpunk doesn't know whether it wants to be an open-world immersive sim or a looter shooter or a GTA-like, and it therefore largely fails at all three, but you can at least pick up some very good "immersive-sim-like" vibes on occasion, and the combat game play loop is quite satisfying.
  • Poz is present. As I said, it's pretty unobtrusive, but it is there.
    • I actually missed the lone tranny character by accident in my first playthrough. It was only later that I read about her/him/it/xir. Suffice to say that if a brunette bartender offers you a quest relating to a car race or a garage, ghost her.
All in all, I'd say Cyberpunk is CDPR's best game since Witcher 1, and probably the last decent game we'll see out of them. It's on a very short list of recent(ish) AAA-tier games that I can stand at all. Worth a buy on sale. The DLC is highly optional; it adds a lot of railroaded narrative content and not much else.
 

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    • I actually missed the lone tranny character by accident in my first playthrough. It was only later that I read about her/him/it/xir. Suffice to say that if a brunette bartender offers you a quest relating to a car race or a garage, ghost her.
Or just fast-forward all interactions with her if you still want to race in GTA... errr... CP2077.

It's an excellent summary of CP. :salute:
 

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I played this on release and then never touched it since. Assume they've fixed it by now? The people saying it's a looter shooter are right... and you'll end up selling thousands of high powered rifles and armoured prostitute boots to vending machines on the street.
 
Vatnik Wumao
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So is this good?
It has a decent variety of playstyles in combat, appropriate visuals for a cyberpunk game and the occasional good writing. I'd personally recc it mainly for the theme park aspect of it if you like cyberpunk stuff, but it's an ok game regardless.
 

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I mean in the end it's a typical CDPR design philosophy. Bllingest graphics with a cinematic story and a great stoundtrack, while everything else is typically lagging behind.

The main difference is this time they've actually managed to make decent combat for change.
 

solemgar

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I mean in the end it's a typical CDPR design philosophy. Bllingest graphics with a cinematic story and a great stoundtrack, while everything else is typically lagging behind.

The main difference is this time they've actually managed to make decent combat for change.
The soundtrack is excellent, the fact that they recorded the songs from Samurai and that they are actually good still amazes me
 

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So is this good?

Resisted getting it due to glitch fest at launch (and because I'm a big Shadowrun fan who dreamed with a SR game in this formula, and so was full of despite for CP77).

Also, is base game only worth it? I would get base on current sale, and wait for a better sale on the expansion
It's good, obvously not nearly as good as everyone hoped for, but they really turned it around with patches.

It is the most mediocre game I have ever played
 

IHaveHugeNick

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So is this good?

Resisted getting it due to glitch fest at launch (and because I'm a big Shadowrun fan who dreamed with a SR game in this formula, and so was full of despite for CP77).

Also, is base game only worth it? I would get base on current sale, and wait for a better sale on the expansion
It's good, obvously not nearly as good as everyone hoped for, but they really turned it around with patches.

It is the most mediocre game I have ever played
Then I have bad news. Because if you take a good look at the ongoing collapse of game industry and $300 million games routinely launching without basic features that were a standard on a PS3, CP77's mediocrity might still be the best thing we're going to get from AAA space for a long, long time.
 

Sodafish

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All these lighting mods seem to force grey, cloudy skies. What's the matter, no regular sunlight or clear skies or it doesn't look as good?

Not surprising, as it tends to show off the global illumination most effectively.
 

Wesp5

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The people saying it's a looter shooter are right... and you'll end up selling thousands of high powered rifles and armoured prostitute boots to vending machines on the street.

Yeah, that annoyed me the most. Has there been a mod release in the meantime that moves all these normal/rare/epic/whatever weapons into one type that has the same stats?
 
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Get a modern 4k tv capable of atleats 800 nits in HDR and full cover of DPI-3 and play in a lightning controlled environment. Also download texture mods.

:lol:
Anything else?
Yeah actually. You should get a dolby atmos sound system since cyberpunk 2077 support dolby atmos. Personally I use a Samsung soundbar with rear speakers, 4 height speakers total. Sense I have a smasung tv it merges and uses the tvs two top speakers for height channel as well.

But obviously it's better to run a proper av reciver. Dad runs a denom 2800 5.1.2 with floorspeakers and proper installed height speakers.
 

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orcinator

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So is this good?

Resisted getting it due to glitch fest at launch (and because I'm a big Shadowrun fan who dreamed with a SR game in this formula, and so was full of despite for CP77).

Also, is base game only worth it? I would get base on current sale, and wait for a better sale on the expansion
It's good, obvously not nearly as good as everyone hoped for, but they really turned it around with patches.

It is the most mediocre game I have ever played
Then I have bad news. Because if you take a good look at the ongoing collapse of game industry and $300 million games routinely launching without basic features that were a standard on a PS3, CP77's mediocrity might still be the best thing we're going to get from AAA space for a long, long time.
It's still legal to play games that don't have TV commercials.
 

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