Better, than the test site, blander than the past.

[Lady Error]

Also, change the "Brofist" text back to "Rate"?

Is it possible to make them separate? Keep the brofist (and make it just one click), while the other ratings are accessed with a "Rate" link.

I still think that the usernames should be above the avatar as before. And that the "chat box" graphics on the main page should be replaced with the old "music bars" graphic.

 

[Lady Error]

The distance to the text below the quotes seems too large as well.

EDIT: Actually, it is too small without adding a line with Enter and too large if you add a line.

 

[Strange Fellow]

If you have to zoom in, all the menu elements become garishly yuge, which sucks. Things becoming too small shouldn't be an issue for you and your super-vision anyway, just squint harder. I stand with Taluntain.

 

[Tacgnol]

The Codex just told me I should activate "push notifications". I have never used "push notifications" anywhere, I don't even know what they do but they sound fishy to me, so of course I declined.

It just means desktop notifications for alerts etc.

 

[†††]

Is it possible to make them separate? Keep the brofist (and make it just one click), while the other ratings are accessed with a "Rate" link.

Double clicking the button menu results in an automated brofist. It's the only thing I do these days because the button list order makes zero sense.

 

[Twiglard]

I thought the old font was Lato? Also, why is he unilaterally deciding what size it is when we had a poll indicating the majority of uses prefer the original size?

The old 'dex was Tahoma 13px. The first /xf2/ was Lato. It's now Tahoma 14px.

The font used for forum descriptions, under the forum list, is a bit too large and low-contrast imo. I think the old site made it a darker gray, if you want I can pull the the hex code for that for you.

The old forum description text was #fff, Tahoma, 11px. I just changed it to same, except the color is #eaeaea.

It just means desktop notifications for alerts etc.

It's actually pretty nice because you can configure the alert list and the browser notifications separately for different events such as mentions, being quoted, receiving ratings, and responses to a watched thread.

So I'm using the watched page exclusively for threads, receive alert-list notifications for ratings and mentions/quotes, but only receive push notifications for mentions and quotes.

why is he unilaterally deciding what size it is when we had a poll indicating the majority of uses prefer the original size?

Good thing most on this site aren't blind or using a poorly fitted display.

@DarkUnderlord will you restore the post body font to the OG size and style?

I'm going to stay out of it. Will only change the message body font once an agreement has been reached.

 

[agris]

^^ like a gentleman

I'm trying to be fair in my criticism of Taluntain here; he does a ton of work that does not get appreciated. If the font/zoom poll was unambiguously for increasing the size, I would suck it up and use an extension to change it to how I like it. But the fact that the majority wanted it unchanged and he insists on changing, which he has made clear is his personal preference, does not sit well with me - regardless of all the other good work he does for the site.

edit: plus the new size looks gay

 

[Lady Error]

Twiglard, the margin below quotes should be actually a bit bigger (maybe 2-3 pixels).

Right now the margin is too small if the text is right below a quote and it becomes too large if you insert line with Enter between the quote and your own text:

Quote

Text

Quote

Text with added line below the quote

Speaking of which, the margin above a quote could use an extra pixel or two as well.

 

[Twiglard]

@Twiglard, the margin below quotes should be actually a bit bigger (maybe 2-3 pixels).

Right now the margin is too small if the text is right below a quote and it becomes too large if you insert line with Enter between the quote and your own text:

Unified the margin between the top and bottom of block (was different because of the "user said:" line)

It's now 10.5 instead of 7, 7 + 4px respectively.

 

[Taluntain]

Also, why is he unilaterally deciding what size it is when we had a poll indicating the majority of uses prefer the original size?

The Codex polls aren't really a reliable measuring device since everyone with an axe to grind brings their 5 alts to "strengthen" their vote.

 

[Taluntain]

I know I'm beating a dead horse and I'm probably starting to sound more autistic than Bester, but everything would look much cleaner without all those cluttering words and symbols. Look:

The "share", "report", and "bookmark" functions can all be added under an arrow just left of the post number (IIRC, XenForo already has a "more options" functionality that should be visible by default).

Just like with buttons, everyone understand what those symbols are and, in any case, any doubt can be solved with the already present tooltip.

I don't think that really looks "better" per se. To me it looks fine as is. Those icons do not sufficiently indicate their meaning without the text, so this would only serve to confuse everyone but the regulars who'd know their meaning by heart. That's not good usability. Also, tooltips only work on desktops. Every design in 2022 has to take mobiles in account as well, especially when it comes to basic functions. It's acceptable to hide some advanced/extra functions in mobile view, but the basic functionality shouldn't be cryptic.

 

[Skinwalker]

Is the nudex still butt-ugly? I can't tell anymore because I've gone blind after bleeding from my eyesockets for too long.

 

[Taluntain]

But I don't want everything else to be smaller, only the text.

In Firefox; View / Zoom / Zoom text only.

 

[Taluntain]

Is it possible to make them separate? Keep the brofist (and make it just one click), while the other ratings are accessed with a "Rate" link.

This would require some custom coding and constantly reapplying it when the ratings addon gets updated, so not really worth it IMO.

 

[Taluntain]

It just means desktop notifications for alerts etc.

Push notifications are now available for both desktops and mobiles. It doesn't hurt anything to turn it on, you can always turn it off later if you don't like it.

 

[agris]

The spoiler element used to be able to be renamed by using

[spoiler="text"]

but that no longer appears to work quite right, as it says "Spoiler: text"

 

[motherfucker]

The Codex polls aren't really a reliable measuring device

oh but your subjective feeling on what looks right is? retard.

 

[Lady Error]

Thanks for adding the music bars on the main page.

 

[conan_edw]

Is this still happening? The rectangular tag "Anime" should be aligned to the right as on the old 'dex. It could've been caused by intermittent .css syntax error.

It used to be like this:

Image 1

Now it's like this, I guess it's somewhat better:

Image 2

 

[Taluntain]

I'm trying to be fair in my criticism of @Taluntain here; he does a ton of work that does not get appreciated. If the font/zoom poll was unambiguously for increasing the size, I would suck it up and use an extension to change it to how I like it. But the fact that the majority wanted it unchanged and he insists on changing, which he has made clear is his personal preference, does not sit well with me - regardless of all the other good work he does for the site.

No, as I've explained several times before, this is not just my personal preference but good web design norm for 2022 and insisting on making the fonts smaller every year (which is what leaving them the same size for the last 20 years effectively means) would pretty much be the definition of some petty agenda that would be hard for anyone sensible to understand. So what you're trying to achieve is actually what you're accusing me of. Funny, that.

Also, as I pointed out previously, I'm pretty sure that the small font enthusiasts pulled out their every alt to pad their votes on that poll, so it's not really reliable in any way.

 

[Twiglard]

The spoiler element used to be able to be renamed by using

[spoiler="text"]

but that no longer appears to work quite right, as it says "Spoiler: text"

Is this a big deal? I'd rather keep the amount of edited templates to a minimum. Anyway, it's in bb_code_tag_spoiler.

It used to be like this:

Image 1

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Now it's like this, I guess it's somewhat better:

Image 2

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Done by shifting the avatar 6 pixels to the left. Won't the avatar overlap the left edge of the screen a bit too much though? Due to some CSS fuckery this is better than adding a right margin to the avatar.

 

[Tacgnol]

No, as I've explained several times before, this is not just my personal preference but good web design norm for 2022 and insisting on making the fonts smaller every year (which is what leaving them the same size for the last 20 years effectively means) would pretty much be the definition of some petty agenda that would be hard for anyone sensible to understand. So what you're trying to achieve is actually what you're accusing me of. Funny, that.

Also, as I pointed out previously, I'm pretty sure that the small font enthusiasts pulled out their every alt to pad their votes on that poll, so it's not really reliable in any way.

In all honesty, if anyone has a particular bugbear about font size, it's probably better for them to just edit it with a stylus script.

I think the default one we've got set right now is alright personally, but then I'm at 2560x1440 so I dunno whether that skews things.

 

[JarlFrank]

good web design norm for 2022

But modern web design sucks ass compared to the web design of ten years ago.

Everything modern sucks ass. That is one of the core tenets of the Codex.

 

[Taluntain]

Font size is not so much about design but usability, but this goes hand in hand. When a size is too small for a good portion of readers to read comfortably, it's bad usability. Nobody should need to increase the size of the regular font on any website to read it comfortably. It's certainly more acceptable for those who for some reason prefer to read smaller fonts to zoom out a notch than to require all those who can't use the site normally due to too small a font to make adjustments so that they can even use the website. Thank your lucky stars if your vision is so superb that it affords you to read increasingly smaller text every year at the same level of comfort. This is definitely not the norm in the human population anywhere, and I'm pretty sure that the Codex is not comprised entirely of eagle-eyed mutants.

 

[Narushima]

Also, change the "Brofist" text back to "Rate"?

Since we use that button to rate, then yes, it should be called "Rate". The brofist is just one of the ratings.