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Torment Beamdog's Planescape: Torment Enhanced Edition

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So I have just today found out that my 4 disc version of PST is unreadable on my DVD player for some reason. What to do, what to do?

Get a new DVD player?
 

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So I have just today found out that my 4 disc version of PST is unreadable on my DVD player for some reason. What to do, what to do?

Get a new DVD player?

I have a laptop, besides I'm pretty sure the CDs just deteriorated. They're 15 years old or so.

So I have just today found out that my 4 disc version of PST is unreadable on my DVD player for some reason. What to do, what to do?

Don't buy EE, find a torrent.

I wouldn't feel bad for pirating a game I've paid for, but can't find any torrent that would have a superior polish localization. So bad luck for me.
 

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So I have just today found out that my 4 disc version of PST is unreadable on my DVD player for some reason. What to do, what to do?

Download that shizzle for free because you already paid for the game.

Or, be a good goy and pay again for something you already own.
 

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Yeah, I was just going to say that. The Beamdogshit version hasn't been released yet, so you shouldn't just get it on GOG right fucking now, it might even be one of your last chances to do so.
 

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Buy it on GOG, you can choose Polish version if you want (tylko nie wspieraj tych pasożytów).

Here's the thing. The original is 40 PLN on GOG right now, which while not that much, I'm not willing to pay right now for a game I owned, especially that I've finished PST for a nth time 2 or 3 years ago. However, when the PST:EE drops, the original will be withdrawn from the shop and available only for the purchasers of the Enhanced Edition.

If PST:EE gets any discounts in the future (like -75%, which I would be willing to pay), all the money will go to Beamdog right? Either I pay more now for some moral victory or I let Beamdog have half of less of that in the future.
 

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It's small price to pay for your recklessness and not buying it earlier (you could have bought it for less than 4 USD which was 14 Zloty at the time).
It's worth that price (and more), giving even 1 dollar to Beamdog makes you an accessory to the crime and increases the chances these Beamdog hacks will fuck up Arcanum (and I'm sure they would add SJW companions here since the world is so big and diverse) or ToEE next. There are even threads about it on Steam already and it's certain Beamdog will try it at least because modding is the only thing they can do.

Alternatively you can pirate it or look for a better deal at g2a/allkeyshop or aledrogo but think about it this way: you're supporting Polish firm BTW.
 
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Question: how does the dialog screen work in the EE? Does it work exactly like in the original (with endlessly scrolling text) or is it updated to be cleared after selecting a response, like in BG2 and the EEs?
 

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I think it's like the other EE's, soulburner. I've played a bit now and haven't paid much attention to that, but I think it does clear.

Edit - I was wrong.
 
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Azalin

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If PST:EE gets any discounts in the future (like -75%, which I would be willing to pay), all the money will go to Beamdog right? Either I pay more now for some moral victory or I let Beamdog have half of less of that in the future.



You should also consider that it will likely take some for it to have such a big discount
 

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Here's the thing. The original is 40 PLN on GOG right now, which while not that much, I'm not willing to pay right now for a game I owned, especially that I've finished PST for a nth time 2 or 3 years ago. However, when the PST:EE drops, the original will be withdrawn from the shop and available only for the purchasers of the Enhanced Edition.

If PST:EE gets any discounts in the future (like -75%, which I would be willing to pay), all the money will go to Beamdog right? Either I pay more now for some moral victory or I let Beamdog have half of less of that in the future.

I doubt that if you buy the original game from GOG any of your money go to the creators of the game, most likely you are giving all your money to Atari/Hasbro, and they weren't involved with the original games as far as I know, they just bought the rights and they are milking it. Basicly, it makes no difference from an ethical standpoint.
 

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I doubt that if you buy the original game from GOG any of your money go to the creators of the game, most likely you are giving all your money to Atari/Hasbro
That should be obvious but at least Beamdog won't get any money so it makes a HUGE difference. The sooner such parasitic company will go under the better it will be for everyone.
 

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How is hasbro benefiting from material they didn't work on any less dubious than beamdog doing the same thing with the involvement of MCA and design docs?

I'm only being devil's advocate here, but for someone so one note you'd think you'd be better at playing said note by now.
 

aVENGER

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Question: how does the dialog screen work in the EE? Does it work exactly like in the original (with endlessly scrolling text) or is it updated to be cleared after selecting a response, like in BG2 and the EEs?

The dialogue window isn't cleared when you select a response in PST:EE. You can scroll up to read the text that was displayed earlier, just like in the original PST.

The only difference is, PST:EE supports mouse scrolling (the original PST did not) which makes scrolling in dialogue and other UI menus slightly easier.
 

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some of which are easily missable (like the tracks in the first room of the game.)
First thing I saw in game back in 2000.

I managed to miss something
How could you misse that? There are little hints about Dakkon.
Also, how could you not have enough CHA if Friends spell is stackable? Or it is not?
Also wtf Golden Sphere? Bronze one?
 

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some of which are easily missable (like the tracks in the first room of the game.)
First thing I saw in game back in 2000.

I managed to miss something
How could you misse that? There are little hints about Dakkon.
Also, how could you not have enough CHA if Friends spell is stackable? Or it is not?
Also wtf Golden Sphere? Bronze one?
Dakkon? Poor localization. Or maybe I wasn't paying enough attention. Dunno actually, 'twas years ago, but I just remember that I missed it.
Not Enough CHA? Fighter playthrough (yeah, don't tell me, I know).
Sphere is a fuck up on my part, fixed, thanks :oops:. Bloody tired is all.
 

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I think they should've had the balls to add the same amount of new content as in BG EE 1 & 2. People would complain, whine and hate, but at least they would've had the reason to actually buy the game. With resulting changes being so insignificant (and not really adding much over the stuff that's already available for free), I just don't see the point of actually returning to the torment. Besides, last time I played it, I was basically still a kid and I don't want to play it in the adult age, just so the charm stays as unbroken as the circle.

Sure, they probably planned to cash in on all the hype Numenera's mega-successful release will create and to play the "pristinely original masterpiece" card... Too bad there's no hype, lol. Should've known better than to bet on Fargo.
 

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I think they should've had the balls to add the same amount of new content as in BG EE 1 & 2. People would complain, whine and hate, but at least they would've had the reason to actually buy the game. With resulting changes being so insignificant (and not really adding much over the stuff that's already available for free), I just don't see the point of actually returning to the torment. Besides, last time I played it, I was basically still a kid and I don't want to play it in the adult age, just so the charm stays as unbroken as the circle.

Sure, they probably planned to cash in on all the hype Numenera's mega-successful release will create and to play the "pristinely original masterpiece" card... Too bad there's no hype, lol. Should've known better than to bet on Fargo.

Nah. I bet it went more like:

"Shiiiet man. Sorry Numenera turned out like a turd. Hey, cheer up. Wanna play the original?"
 

ciox

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Nah. I bet it went more like:

"Shiiiet man. Sorry Numenera turned out like a turd. Hey, cheer up. Wanna play the original?"
QC8R8yv.jpg
 

hexer

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aVENGER Do you know what's the status of Planescape campaign setting?
Does it exist now solely to support PST as its backdrop or are there real chances WOTC could return to it if PST:EE sells well enough?
The setting has incredible potential for many memorable and thought provoking stories.
 

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Yeah, it's almost as if the game is designed to play in a much lower resolution.

Don't think resolution would make any difference with what I'm talking about. Certain things don't give a clear indication they can be clicked, whether it's zoomed in or not. Simple example are the tracks covering the whole first room. You have to click in a very small, specific spot to see the text.

If you like that then cool, don't use the highlighting. It helps me make sense of this bizarre world. :)
 

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