Game News Baldur's Gate: Siege of Dragonspear Released

[Excidium II]

Straight from the forum admin's twitter: http://archive.is/tlJCs

The mask can't hide it that well.

 

[Mangoose]

No, I'm pretty sure the Codex already hates Beamdog for making shitty attempts at renovating/polishing/whatever gameplay (good attempts would be lauded). And the only real complaining about SJWing come from millennials, because they don't realize BG:EE already sucked in the first

Complaints besides that are not specific in context to Beamdog BG crap. It's in context to a lot of shows/games/media/whatever that's around

The SJWing is blatantly obvious and the statements by the developers/writers concerning this even promotes this. This is not unfair criticism, they deserve it completely. They pulll this kind of crap all the time in movies and TV and it is time they start getting taken to task for it.

Somewhat true.

But for me, NUMBER ONE PRIORITY is gameplay. If that is done right, I will AFTERWARDS somewhat complain about other topics (I care less simply because it's in my nature to care less about details... Now if the SJW message were the entire storyline that's a different story, of course).

That's why I think this is anti-SJWing is less contextual to this game. Now, I don't disagree at ALL about the portrayal of LBGT in general. I completely agree with Jasede.

But really IMO Beamdog fucked up the gameplay back in their first BG resurrection, way before this SJW stuff.

 

[Onholyservicebound]

Dragon Age Inquisition with everything politically correct With gays and black people, with Asians and interracial relations...

You sound like a retarded parody with this post.

 

[Eirikur]

Nothing screams classical BG more than "Ho there wanderer, let me share my progressive sexual identify with you." At least he could be killed.

Incidentally, I wrote a review (on Metacritic) where I stated my disappointment and addressed three negative issues, using no controversial language. It was deleted, so of course I'm doubling down now.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Nothing screams classical BG more than "Ho there wanderer, let me share my progressive sexual identify with you."

I think this is more of a missed opportunity than anything. They should've used your quote verbatim. It'd be hilarious.

"Heya, it's me, Imaman. Let me tell you a tale of cishet oppressors."

 

[Xenich]

No, I'm pretty sure the Codex already hates Beamdog for making shitty attempts at renovating/polishing/whatever gameplay (good attempts would be lauded). And the only real complaining about SJWing come from millennials, because they don't realize BG:EE already sucked in the first

Complaints besides that are not specific in context to Beamdog BG crap. It's in context to a lot of shows/games/media/whatever that's around

The SJWing is blatantly obvious and the statements by the developers/writers concerning this even promotes this. This is not unfair criticism, they deserve it completely. They pulll this kind of crap all the time in movies and TV and it is time they start getting taken to task for it.

Somewhat true.

But for me, NUMBER ONE PRIORITY is gameplay. If that is done right, I will AFTERWARDS somewhat complain about other topics (I care less simply because it's in my nature to care less about details... Now if the SJW message were the entire storyline that's a different story, of course).

That's why I think this is anti-SJWing is less contextual to this game. Now, I don't disagree at ALL about the portrayal of LBGT in general. I completely agree with Jasede.

But really IMO Beamdog fucked up the gameplay back in their first BG resurrection, way before this SJW stuff.

I won't argue the game play with you, that is a separate topic and one I am not qualified to judge (I played the BG:EE a long time ago for only a bit).

My point was just that the SJW was obvious and that kind of crap to me is extremely insulting. I am sick of these idiots pushing their shallow intellectually void crusades on people in general, and them riding the coat tails of BG to do it? Well... I hope they go out of business. I know, not kind, but FFS this shit has got to stop. These types have killed off my ability to enjoy most movies and many games these days.

 

[FeelTheRads]

I hope they go out of business. I know, not kind,

Well, this is the kind of people that scream for others to get fired for tweeting some "problematic" message or for drawing breasts, so hey, basically they're just getting it thrown back at them.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

How's the rest of the writing in this game anyway?

 

[Excidium II]

How's the rest of the writing in this game anyway?

It's what you'd expect.

 

[Mark Richard]

There is no safe way to wield nostalgia. Reinventing beloved old IPs seems as likely to bite a studio as it is to boost sales from brand recognition. It shouldn't matter if a new piece of related media isn't as good as the original, and yet… something about the way our brains work interprets it as an assault on our childhood.

Anyway, enough about the crappy new Ghostbusters movie. What’s going on here?

 

[deranged]

for anyone here who is actually playing the game, I'm stuck:

Spoiler

I ignored the dragon and went straight to the south east of the cave, which leads to another area...

 

[SwiftCrack]

false narrative

ethics

LMAO

 

[SwiftCrack]

Polish Jon Irenicus VA >>> mediocre english Irenicus VA (I honestly don't know how he can get any praise for his english voice-over, it's so average). Too bad polish VA is dead, so we can only dream of an appropriate SoD localization.

It wasn't average when BG2 came out.

 

[SwiftCrack]

Why does it look so much worse and less detailed than isometric games from 15+ years ago?

The hard truth is that the art of making these kinds of 2D games has been lost to time, much like the writings of the Greek philosophers were lost during the Dark Ages.

It's kinda explained here.

And yes, Kotaku did a coverage about the expansion. Who would thought....

faithful-dushness > Nathan Grayson

Never played Baldurs Gate, it's a different type of game than Diablo?

 

[MRY]

Why does it look so much worse and less detailed than isometric games from 15+ years ago? Why does Beamdog suck so much at this?

I'm not sure why you would expect it to get better -- while here and there it may be that new shortcuts have arisen and some better tools are out, at the end of the day, it's not that different an artform than it was 15 years ago. It's like asking why 2D sprites haven't gotten better than Metal Slug or whatever. At some point, for better art you need better artists, and I imagine the better artists have better things to do with their time than working on BG fan fiction.

 

[Melcar]

Getting angry over a shit game you shouldn't even be playing. Only on The Codex.

 

[Wulfric Pinewood]

I do not want to be forced to tolerate homosexual, transsexual and other deviants as "normal" behaviour becouse i think they need medical treatment, as it's kind of psychiatric disease.
When i see that kind of "perspective", especially in my beloved Baldur's Gate im becoming real angry.
Classic fantasy should stay free of that shitty LGBT propaganda . What's next will become"normal" necrophilia? pedophilia?

 

[Fitz]

Why would you even have transgender in Faerûn in the first place. They have belts and spells that can switch people's gender ffs.

If a tranny wears one of those would their tranny gender also change? Does a FtM tranny become a MtF tranny when wearing a girdle of masculinity?

 

[Infinitron]

I do not want to be forced to tolerate homosexual, transsexual and other deviants as "normal" behaviour becouse i think they need medical treatment, as it's kind of psychiatric disease.
When i see that kind of "perspective", especially in my beloved Baldur's Gate im becoming real angry.
Classic fantasy should stay free of that shitty LGBT propaganda . What's next will become"normal" necrophilia? pedophilia?

Didn't you get the tag for being a rabid Dragon Age: Inquisition fanboy?

Wait a minute...

It will be good crpg, without Gaider lgbt marketing it will have much better reception among players. Personally i don't have nothing against gays, lesbians or transsexuals [maybe i just don't agree to adopting children by them but thats all], this way or another these people were always part of society. And they deserve dignity and normal laws like any other human being.
If it's not main gameplay feature let it be, i think most of "gay haters" here and in overall, still lives with their mommy, have skyrocketing complexes or are just retards.
To some point making laugh about too much gay content in the game is nothing wrong like any other funny comments, but calling other people faggots etc. every time is just retarded "racism" and kind of sickness.
Calling Bioware shitty company etc. is also "too much", its good developer in the past but also in present gaming, and games like Mass Effect series had one of the most engaging stories and characters ever written in crpg gaming, Mordin, Wrex are among best npc's in today's crpgs.
Not to mention art style and overall scale.
It's sad that some people can say that writing, stories and rest were great only in Torment, BG, Fallouts etc. and are closed for new views, new games and new mechanics, calling almost any non-standard crpg game shit. Sure old games were great but new ones can be great too.
I play oldies to this day, launching Fallouts, Ishar etc. but please, they are just good "memories" of the past, for many of us from childhood where everything "was better". Time to move on.
Not to mention reading rpg Codex is sometimes boring becouse 85% of posts are about criticize and bash something. I wonder what are you doing in real life guys and what are your achievements there? Are you talking to your kids same way? "Go play fuking retard" etc. ? Maybe most of You just don't have kids, or own families becouse i doubt any normal adult person can spread so large ammount of "hate" .
It looks like 3/4 of codex are just unhappy loosers, just a impression after some time.

 

[Melcar]

Games have always had certain propaganda inside of them. Writers are always inserting their own views into games. Sometimes it's subtle and tasteful, other times it's harsh and in your face. This shit isn't new.

 

[FeelTheRads]

BG fan fiction.

That's rough, man. Is that an official quote as an inXile employee?

 

[Wulfric Pinewood]

Yeah Infinitron, i was tolerant until now, making Baldur's Gate a deviant party platform is too much for me. BRING TORCHES! Bioware cannot be even put near Beamdog crap in terms of crpg developing , even if they release cprgs about pink necro deviant rabbits from now. Im still far from calling these sick people faggots etc. , its just a mental disorder , but it shouldn't be treated as "normal" state nor anyone should be forced to accept it as normal. It's like non treated disease of mental health. And any NPC with that problem should be showed that way, not as happy trans fuck everything "im okay whats your fuckin problem Ya racist" LGBT PR man

And im fanboy of every good crpg so fuck off or play still with that carrot in your ass.

 

[Melcar]

Codex needs a safe space.

 

[Trashos]

I get the feeling that Beamdog is not exactly being welcome with open arms in the RPG industry. And I am not talking about gamers.

But it's no wonder, with the PR strategy they have.

 

[shadow9d9]

I do not want to be forced to tolerate homosexual, transsexual and other deviants as "normal" behaviour becouse i think they need medical treatment, as it's kind of psychiatric disease.
When i see that kind of "perspective", especially in my beloved Baldur's Gate im becoming real angry.
Classic fantasy should stay free of that shitty LGBT propaganda . What's next will become"normal" necrophilia? pedophilia?

I hope this is sarcasm. People don't choose what gender they are attracted to. You are born that way. Unless you weren't sure when you were younger, and tried all types before you decided. In which case, I'd argue that you were bisexual.