Eternity Avowed Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[AwesomeButton]

DIfferent developers back then.

I'd argue that Pillars of Eternity was made by creme de la creme of Obsidian and we all know how that ended.

With a good game ?

I tried to find the picture of Sawyer's pathetic engraved watch (kicking myself that I didn't save it initially), ended up finding the saddest collection of old man selfies on the Internet. Enjoy!

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Give him a few years and his transformation into Jordan Peterson will be complete.

And I think not just for me, considering how PoE2 sold after that (I didn't even bother buying it).

Deadfire is better than PoE, deserves a chance.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Russia - $22.64
China - $48.13
Japan - $62.08
USA - $69.99
Ukraine - $72.75
Europe - $73.82
UK - $76.11
Israel - $79.95
Poland - $85.14

How do they even decide on these regional prices? Seems dumb af.

 

[NaturallyCarnivorousSheep]

Consolefags in poland pay these kinds of prices for games so they just borrow the homework

 

[Gandalf]

What exactly is the difference between premium and normal edition of Avowed? Does it have some cool stuff exra goodies in it? I can't find proper info about it.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

What exactly is the difference between premium and normal edition of Avowed? Does it have some cool stuff exra goodies in it? I can't find proper info about it.

• Base Game
• Up to five days Early Access
• Two Premium Skin Packs
• Access to Digital Artbook & Soundtrack

 

[Roguey]

It's odd they even decided to sell it in Russia at all. The TA for this kind of slop virtually moved to other regions long time ago and the rest don't care naturally.

It was a mistake, they de-listed it within a day. Non-pirating Russians had to be quick to get cheap Avowed.

 

[Beans00]

The truth is no one cares about this game, because Obsidian has basically zero talent.

 

[Konjad]

The truth is no one cares about this game, because Obsidian has basically zero talent.

That's not true, there is at least one person that must care and is a part of 'dex moderation.

 

[Blutwurstritter]

Russia - $22.64
China - $48.13
Japan - $62.08
USA - $69.99
Ukraine - $72.75
Europe - $73.82
UK - $76.11
Israel - $79.95
Poland - $85.14

Has the złoty dropped against the dollar or are games generally more expensive in Poland?

 

[Heroic Liberator]

God is punishing Pshekia. There can be no other reasonable explanation))

 

[jackofshadows]

God is punishing Pshekia. There can be no other reasonable explanation))

Are you absolutely sure that's not blessing?

 

[Azdul]

God is punishing Pshekia. There can be no other reasonable explanation))

Are you absolutely sure that's not blessing?

Despite this being hot, eagerly anticipated title, due to this unprecendented act of greed, I'm forced to recommend not buying the game to all members of Polish Avowed fanclub.

Mark my words, the global sales figures WILL show that our boycott was successful.

 

[NaturallyCarnivorousSheep]

Has the złoty dropped against the dollar or are games generally more expensive in Poland?

Nobody knows why, the course is roughly stable but they just became one of the most expensive in the world for no reason as of like 2021 or something.

 

[CrunchyHemorrhoids]

Damn, I keep forgetting that the Outer Worlds was a real game and not a hallucination. Weird to hear that it sold 4 millions, I guess people will buy anything if it has guns on the screen.

Don't they count every game activation under things like gamepass, uplay+ or epic giveaway as a sale.

 

[The people of Duckburg]

It's not "unfair" to have multiple enemies attacking at once

When was this ever a problem in an RPG?
Was it a problem in BG or Fallouts? No. Might and Magic? No. Bethesda? No. Any FPS ever made? No.
Was it ever a problem, in any game? wtf

I think you fundamentally don't understand that genre of games. Your complaints are kind of what it looks like when people complain about turn-based games because "why can't I just go up to him and hit the enemy when he's just standing there?".

Spectacle action, character action, DMC-like, whatever we decide to call the genre, works in a way that makes it a logical choice to make enemies usually not attack at the same time. For one thing, you're supposed to not get hit. In a majority of RPGs you're inevitably get hit sometimes, to give armor, endurance, evasion and such stats a reason to exist. In an FPS you're going to get hit unless you circle strafe or use cover or such. In a third person action game like GoW or DMC, you're usually surrounded by several enemies. It would be weird if you're fighting the armies of Hell of some other mythological place and they only send one enemy at a time at you. You need to design the game so that it's possible to find openings in between enemy attacks, because you need to be able to dodge or block them, and failure to do so usually leads to taking a lot of damage (on top of losing your combo/stylish rank etc.). The solution is to have several enemies, but stagger their attacks somewhat. And before you say it, that's not the same as having only one enemy, because you still need to be ready for an attack from any of the enemies around you, and watch out for any of the other enemies attacking you while you're attacking one enemy. All the enemies are active threats; they just aren't attacking at the exact same instance, most of the time.

Another factor is that many actions tend to animation lock or root you, to some degree. That's either not relevant or not true in RPGs or FPS games. You can shoot, reload, and usually melee while moving in an FPS, so you're constantly moving. And as for Thief, that's a completely different genre. If you've alerted not one, but several guards in Thief, you've failed because Thief is a stealth game. Being surrounded by enemies is basically the default combat encounter in a game like GoW.

Does this apply to Avowed? No idea, I haven't watched any footage of it. But you were talking about action games in general, not specifically Avowed. And like I said, I think you just fundamentally don't understand how such action games work (whether you consider them good or not being irrelevant).

 

[Konjad]

How do they even decide on these regional prices? Seems dumb af.

Has the złoty dropped against the dollar or are games generally more expensive in Poland?

They are generally more expensive since 2022 when Valve decided that Potato is one of the richest countries in the world and set the default suggested price in PLN as highest in the world aside from CHF (Swiss Franc).

So basically, when someone puts out a game on Steam they set price for i.e. USD or EUR and has Steam suggested prices for other regions which they can modify, but plenty of publishers don't bother and run with these default values.

Hence while up to early 2022 prices in Poland were lower (if I remember correctly about 15-20% lower than Euro), since 2022 they are significantly higher. They are only lower if the publisher bothers correcting the price and doesn't just run with Steam values.


tl;dr Gabe hates Poland since 2022.

 

[AwesomeButton]

God is punishing Pshekia. There can be no other reasonable explanation))

With Avowed? This may not be punishment. He is blessing them for not admitting infidels into their country.

 

[BrainMuncher]

It's not "unfair" to have multiple enemies attacking at once

When was this ever a problem in an RPG?
Was it a problem in BG or Fallouts? No. Might and Magic? No. Bethesda? No. Any FPS ever made? No.
Was it ever a problem, in any game? wtf

I think you fundamentally don't understand that genre of games.

We are talking about Avowed. "That genre" is first person RPG

Does this apply to Avowed? No idea, I haven't watched any footage of it.

Sounds like you are the one who doesn't know what they are talking about?

 

[Tyranicon]

Obsidian broooos, what are you doing?!

 

[The people of Duckburg]

We are talking about Avowed. "That genre" is first person RPG

There was a longer discussion about it that included Rougey linking to some article mentioning the God of War games. It wasn't only about Avowed. Still, while what I wrote is still valid, it was my mistake to only quote you when you weren't even the one to compare it to Thief. The point that I was trying to convey was that not making every enemy attack at the same time is a perfectly valid design decision depending on the game, but that I wasn't necessarily defending Avowed's use of it.

 

[Beans00]

The truth is no one cares about this game, because Obsidian has basically zero talent.

That's not true, there is at least one person that must care and is a part of 'dex moderation.

Infinitron and Roguey are the only people who care about this game lol

 

[Elttharion]

Obsidian broooos, what are you doing?!

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Dont worry, the ADL is already taking strides to ban this kind of discussion on Steam

 

[Elttharion]

Obsidian broooos, what are you doing?!

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Dont worry, the ADL is already taking strides to ban this kind of discussion on Steam

Holy Shit I was just joking lmao

Warner Presses Valve to Crack Down on Hateful Accounts and Rhetoric Proliferating on Steam​

Thats not Warner Bros btw its Mark R. Warner, a dem senator from Virginia.

“I write to you today regarding the hate and extremism that has recently been identified on your gaming digital distribution and social networking platform Steam,” Warner wrote. “Recently, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) released a report where ADL identified over 1 million unique user accounts and nearly 100,000 user-created groups that glorified antisemitic, Nazi, white supremacist, gender- and sexuality-based hatred, and other extremist ideologies on Valve’s Steam platform.”

You should want your users (and prospective users) to not have to wonder if they or their children will be harassed, intimidated, ridiculed or otherwise face abuse,” Warner concluded.

Source here

 

[Qarthadqart]

Any FPS ever made? No.

In Half Life 2, only two enemies can target the player. If both slots are full they have to take a different action.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Obsidian broooos, what are you doing?!

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As I said three pages back - their newest excuse will be that Microsoft raised the prices too much for a game of Avowed's scope It's a matter of months until they reach for it, mark my words:

You don't get the 4D chess. They are setting up the excuses for the bad reviews - Microsoft misunderstood the AA scope, and made us charge AAA price.

Let's see who rated me "Meh"? Oh, it's Infinitron

What frustrates me about Obsidian's failed projects more than anyone else's mediocre RPGs is that almost everyone there is seemingly doing their 9 to 5, sipping gingerbread-flavored latte, corporate workday. It seems as if it has become part of the culture. And I hate that, because we are RPG genre fans here. I think I speak for most us - we are people who would most likely work on an RPG for free, if they have the organisation and project management going, and they like the game concept. 9 to 5 "Microsoft employees" are showing the antithetic attitude. Never in their engagement with players, do I get the spirit of "we're a company making cool games".

Let me just go through the list again:

2000s-2013: publishers are greedy, they don't understand rpgs don't have to be flashy 3D. Also, outsourcing corporate masters fucked us with Fallout NV, but we fixed the bugs post-release.
2013-2014: we're a small indie studio please donate to our KS, and we will blow every Infinity Engine game out of the water. You are our boss now, we love you so much, please send us money!
2014-2015: "Spiritual successor" means whatever Josh says it means - i.e. "gamers don't really know what they want"!
2015-2018: Whoops, looks like they actually do! And it's NOT turn-based mechanics in a RTwP game, nor a system that is class-based in name only. And we overdid the stretchgoals, and we didn't have time to deliver everything in the quality we envisioned... cue sad violin.
2019-2020: "Manage your expectations, we are not making the next Fallout. We're actually making, well, damned if we know what it is. Also we are publisher-owned now, and this will give us more creative freedom than being indie" (I wish I was joking about this)
2020-2024 ...? Being publisher-owned definitely gave us more creative freedom in our Twitter accounts.
2024: So, we are on the MS payroll, but going to the office, it's so tiresome. And we have to put out another one folks. Did I say that out loud, no, look at how excited we are, in stream after stream. You can see it in our eyes, we are totally not bored of our own games and we play them out of our own free will.
To be continued...