Eternity Avowed - Obsidian's first person action-RPG in the Pillars of Eternity setting

[Elttharion]

Meanwhile, much later in Avowed, I see one of my companions making a similar choice about her future and what to pursue. My Envoy has a dialogue option saying: "wait, you want me to choose?" and my companion responds—all but looking directly into the camera—that no of course she's going to make her own choice but she'd like my opinion as a friend.

Riveting stuff

 

[FreeKaner]

Mister Bean with hairy boobs and in old hooker clothes and badly applied make up, tripping himself in high heels is LESS OBVIOUS then this obvious propaganda piece

Why only libshits, communists, wokeis, retarded jews, and biggest normies have soft heart for slop like this? Not Avowed, in general for Avowed-like. I think it's purely tribal thing, sports. They belong in same ideological football team as Obsidian. And they personally feel attacked when someone criticizes Avowed

I also firmly now believe we see and experience Reality fundamentally differently. How can someone in his 30s spend weekend arguing in favor of such slop compared to RPG CODEX TOP 100 RPGs. That list exists for a reason. Foundation of good RPG design is established by these titles, Lighhouse of Incline. Despite Vavra's backstabbing, KCD 2 will be on new iteration of that least.100th place, 100th place. It'll be on The List.

Avowed? A-LMAOED

In the Codex top 100 RPG list, Dark Souls is apparently a better RPG than the following games:

BG1
Darklands
KOTOR 1 & 2
TOEE
Icewind Dale 1 & 2
Wizardy 6 & 7
Mass Effect 1
Neverwinter Nights 1 & 2

Meanwhile here we are, criticizing that Avowed being watered down as a RPG because it doesn't let you kill NPCs in hubs or have reaction to thievery. There is indeed a football team here but it is not because someone might enjoy a fun game with narrative flexibility whatever criticisms one has of its quality, at least it's still a RPG.

This is of course not to say From Software games are bad games, yet I wouldn't expect Sekiro, a game I love, to have elaborate dialogue trees and choice and consequence with its quests.

 

[Gangrelrumbler]

Storyfag choices for people who get emotional about virtual NPCs, without any actual gameplay effects or influencing the outcome of future quests or even just simple things like your standing in a faction.
You know, like the classics with actual C&C do.

Which is strange since Obsidian nailed C&C years ago with Alpha Protocol. Having the boss fight happen earlier if you piss of one boss enough or having enemies carry better equipment if you let a shady arms dealer go in an earlier mission.

 

[The Wall]

"But hey goyyyz, it's good for what it is he-he!"

Bitch, I have family to spend time with, mountains to climb, bitchez to fuck, BEST RPGz from CODEX BEST RPGz LIST to play for first time or again, my RPG to learn how to make, make and put on top of that very list, hundreds of good old movies to watch, thousands of good books to read (including CYOA ones ), money to make, pet to feed so she doesn't eat my sofa[...] List of better things to do is endless and includes watching youtube videos mocking Avowed. Why should I spend 1sec in magical world where female guards have Habsburg Jaw, as tranny in shining UE engine asset pack armor with mushroom colourful tumors growing on my face. Why? Because it has kinda fun few fighting gameplay moments? Oh-oh-oh! and you discover chest with hormone blockers behind giant waterfall coming out of giant queer dragon skull!

 

[FreeKaner]

"But hey goyyyz, it's good for what it is he-he!"

Bitch, I have family to spend time with, mountains to climb, bitchez to fuck, BEST RPGz from CODEX BEST RPGz LIST to play for first time or again, my RPG to learn how to make, make and put on top of that very list, hundreds of good old movies to watch, thousands of good books to read (including CYOA ones ), money to make, pet to feed so she doesn't eat my sofa. Why should I spend 1sec in magical world where female guards have Habsburg Jaw, as tranny in shining UE engine asset pack armor with mushroom colourful tumors growing on my face. Why?

Trying to play off how much life you are having while talking about RPGs on a politics forum that occasionally talks about video games is sure proving that. Not that I would blame you if you actually got outside, I loved Belgrade it's a great city definitely better than Avowed so it may be more productive if you fucked Serbian bitches and ate some of that ice cream close to that one mosque in the city but here we are.

 

[Fedora Master]

I think both TOW and Avowed are somewhat fun, somewhat dull "baby's first RPG"-type games (similar in vibe to the early BioWare console RPGs KOTOR1 and Jade Empire) that get unfairly accused of being horrible and "woke" by veteran RPG players who were expecting more.

Why unfairly? Serious talk, are they not horrible? Are they not woke? No veteran RPG player expected anything from Avowed btw. And comparing them to KotOR or even Jade Empire is beyond disingenuous, I'd rather do 7 back to back playthroughs of them than play another 10 hours of TOW or touch Avowed, and I strongly suspect so do most sane people.

He wouldn't know since he hasn't played either.

 

[JBro]

Game runs like shit.

 

[Old Hans]

This is of course not to say From Software games are bad games, yet I wouldn't expect Sekiro, a game I love, to have elaborate dialogue trees and choice and consequence with its quests.

Now that I think about it, are Japanese devs even capable of doing dialog trees and C&C?

 

[Elttharion]

I think both TOW and Avowed are somewhat fun, somewhat dull "baby's first RPG"-type games (similar in vibe to the early BioWare console RPGs KOTOR1 and Jade Empire) that get unfairly accused of being horrible and "woke" by veteran RPG players who were expecting more.

Are you liking the game Infi?

 

[Fedora Master]

This is of course not to say From Software games are bad games, yet I wouldn't expect Sekiro, a game I love, to have elaborate dialogue trees and choice and consequence with its quests.

Now that I think about it, are Japanese devs even capable of doing dialog trees and C&C?

No. Free will and free choice does not exist in Japanese society.

 

[Skinwalker]

Are you... going to play VTMB2?

I told you during our initial exchange: no.

Then how did you get added to the Phyrexisters list?

 

[The Wall]

I think both TOW and Avowed are somewhat fun games that get unfairly accused of being horrible and "woke" by veteran RPG players who were expecting more.

Get a load of this kike. Yeah, the company with the art director that is very vocal about not hiring Whites, and who has not gone back on this but had the full support of Obsidian and Microsoft, the same Microsoft that has "woke" mandatory demands on all the garbage products they publish, this company that is owned by them, they're not "woke". Sure. And the game with a fishnigger homo alongside another homo, in the Netflix casted ugly neon danger hair mess of a game that has trooncore social activist writing that people would get up in arms about if they didn't fall asleep or skip it outright out of boredom, they/them pronouns, this singleplayer MMO FPS is "unfairly" accused of being woke?

A shitty action game that can't live up to the standards set by any past action game, be it recent ones, or antiquated exemplars like Dark Messiah. Cities that are more dead than in Neverwinter Nights 2. More braindead gameplay than the old clickers like Titan Quest. The most uncanny NPCs I've ever seen in a video game. A victim of too high expectations? Everyone expected more sewage to seep out from Obsidian after Outer Slop, and somehow it keeps getting worse even than expected.

I always have to wonder whom these garbage releases are for that get cooked up in the cultural weapon labs of California. Apparently it's kikes and kike-adjacent people like Turdks or those Balkaners that have lost their old stock and don't even retain a Slavic constitution but have gone full semite, like Romanians and Bulgarians. Every single anti-semitic post on the Codex ever made was justified when this is what kikes want for RPGs. Playing as some fungus head in a bad cross between Skyrim and Diablo, with the mandatory drag queen color scheme slapped onto it. It's not even goyslop anymore, it's just kikeslop, from the rectum of the big schnozer man funneled straight into his own mouth ad infinitum.

Merry Me. If not fem, odds are only 99% against me, have you got a sister with similar tastes in RPGs? Cute Cousin will do too. We need to start selling sisters to each other

United in hatred for bad RPGs, united in love for good stuff

 

[The Wall]

Trying to play off how much life you are having while talking about RPGs on a politics forum that occasionally talks about video games is sure proving that. Not that I would blame you if you actually got outside, I loved Belgrade it's a great city definitely better than Avowed so it may be more productive if you fucked Serbian bitches and ate some of that ice cream close to that one mosque in the city but here we are.

Bro, Allah is disappointed in you for playing Awoved. I can feel His disappointment. Not kidding

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Now that I think about it, are Japanese devs even capable of doing dialog trees and C&C?

Romancing Saga 2 has a decent amount, for a super nintendo game.

and FYI Dark Souls lets you kill any NPC (even the one you need to level up!) and there are sometimes interesting changes and consequences for doing so.

But why? Can't wait to see your mental gymnastics

A decade ago I complained that RPGs were going progressive due to the ugly female characters in Dragon Age Inquisition, and Infinitron told me that it was all in my head, I was just out of touch with zoomer tastes, etc.

Since then we've had:

-Game developers openly say they changed character designs to avoid "the male gaze" (DA I)
-Say they made women more masculine because femininity is weak (Horizon Zero Dawn)
-Male franchises with masculine heroes generally replaced by women (Gears of War, The Last of Us, The Witcher)
-Trillion dollar investment funds openly say they are forcing companies to comply with radical gender and homosexual ideology (ESG/Blackrock)
-Numerous consultant companies pushing black, gay, and trans characters and themes into games (Sweet Baby)
-Those same companies running an extortion scheme by threatening companies with bad press for not hiring them (Black Myth Wukong)
-Microsoft adopts a step-by-step framework of woke sacraments to comply with the ESG/Blackrock mandates
-Game developers proudly declaring their games will not feature any white people
-Devs openly attack games with any attractive women in them (Stellar Blade)
-Bizarre cult garbage like pronoun selection, vitiligo skin textures, dicks on chicks, top surgery scars, and endless other fetish content that appeals to .01% of the market
-while simultaneously attacking that same market majority for liking pretty women, calling US perverts
-The abject failure of numerous games that comply with all of the above (Borderlands 3, DA Veilguard, Dustborn, Concord, Suicide Squad, among others)

And that's not even starting on Avowed:

-Art director openly attacks white people, says people like him should be removed from the industry and he'll never hire them
-All characters ugly as sin, female characters lack feminine features, basically no boobs, waist, or butt. Everyone looks androgynous
-Game has pronoun selection which are never heard or used once in the game, just to virtue signal
-Women are masculine, leaders & warriors, men are emotional, weak, cry babies, and generally act like faggots (This is a specific bullet point in Microsoft's framework)
-Game features the radical "police cause crime" cult ideology. If your character fights back against the rebels or attempts to punish crime in any way, the game labels you as explicitly evil and blames you for all the bad things those groups do from then on (because the "oppressed" have no agency).

Meanwhile, Infinitron:

 

[Child of Malkav]

Then how did you get added to the Phyrexisters list?

Through the obvious abuse of power exercised by your paws.

 

[Old Hans]

and FYI Dark Souls lets you kill any NPC (even the one you need to level up!) and there are sometimes interesting changes and consequences for doing so.

I was thinking in the more traditional sense, like Dragon Age Origins

 

[Tihskael]

Not the biggest fan of it tbh, in Morrowind it was better because if you clicked on that word you'd actually ask it to the NPC and the NPC would tell you, it all remained in-world.
The way it's done here is essentially an encyclopedia attached to the game that you can look things up in, it's not the NPC who tells you this it's an interface element.

"An example of Lesnie's sense of humor comes in an anecdote told by "Lord of the Rings" star Sean Astin, on a set with light where there was no source for it. "Where is the light coming from?" Astin asked. Lesnie replied, "Same place as the music.""

 

[luj1]

I think both TOW and Avowed are somewhat fun, somewhat dull "baby's first RPG"-type games (similar in vibe to the early BioWare console RPGs KOTOR1 and Jade Empire) that get unfairly accused of being horrible and "woke" by veteran RPG players who were expecting more.

Why unfairly? Serious talk, are they not horrible? Are they not woke?

Because Infinitron is an Obsidian shill. Notice that he rated you with "disagree" but avoids the question like a little bitch

 

[luj1]

Meanwhile, much later in Avowed, I see one of my companions making a similar choice about her future and what to pursue. My Envoy has a dialogue option saying: "wait, you want me to choose?" and my companion responds—all but looking directly into the camera—that no of course she's going to make her own choice but she'd like my opinion as a friend.

Riveting stuff

Yeah, this is the sad mental state of woke SJW journalists that plague gamedev

Remember that guy who claimed in an article that "NPCs have a soul"

 

[Paul_cz]

If this is unavoidable/if history's gonna repeat; I hope MS won't cancel it before release, despite its issues AP was worth playing :D

So, how do you feel now?

 

[JarlFrank]

In the Codex top 100 RPG list, Dark Souls is apparently a better RPG than the following games:

BG1
Darklands
KOTOR 1 & 2
TOEE
Icewind Dale 1 & 2
Wizardy 6 & 7
Mass Effect 1
Neverwinter Nights 1 & 2

It is a better RPG than Mass Effect and both NWNs in that list, so it's not wrongly placed.

 

[luj1]

In the Codex top 100 RPG list, Dark Souls is apparently a better RPG than the following games:

BG1
Darklands
KOTOR 1 & 2
TOEE
Icewind Dale 1 & 2
Wizardy 6 & 7
Mass Effect 1
Neverwinter Nights 1 & 2

Meanwhile here we are, criticizing that Avowed being watered down as a RPG

Because it's worse than them all lol

 

[Roguey]

Why do you seem to be keen on defending Obsidian? Any particular reason for why you appreciate Josh Sawyer and similar?

I prefer to read smarter criticism. Sawyer has his hang-ups but he tends to be more analytical than the average RPG designer.

I just don't understand how can he/Obs settle for the former, just hire more & more talented programmers ffs.

All the best programmers are in AI/Meta/Google. And maybe things have changed, but the game industry pays below the software industry, and Obsidian in particular pays below average rates for their area (the best go to Blizzard and Amazon Game Studios, then Obsidian gets the programmers who aren't good enough to work at those companies, and then inXile gets the programmers who aren't good enough to work at Obsidian). Why would Microsoft give them a bigger budget on top of the big payout they gave the owners when they've been managing well-enough as is?

I'm disappointed in Obsidian for making such a game when they had every means to attempt at a much bigger/better/cutting edge/ambitios etc one.

They made two attempts at a more-ambitious game and failed both times.

Back when the rumors of the deal first sprung up, Avellone directly advised Spencer to fire the management and he didn't listen. Microsoft owns this.

Clearly the fact that they hired Gonzalez as a director means they want to make something else that's not Outer Worlds or Avowed, unless he is here for Pentiment 2 replacing Sawyer for some reason there is every reason to believe they are going to make something else.

Plot twist: Gonzalez is there for Avowed 2. They're not big enough to work on three big games at once. Would they really hire him back to work on some some Pentiment-sized project?

 

[Fedora Master]

I think both TOW and Avowed are somewhat fun, somewhat dull "baby's first RPG"-type games (similar in vibe to the early BioWare console RPGs KOTOR1 and Jade Empire) that get unfairly accused of being horrible and "woke" by veteran RPG players who were expecting more.

Why unfairly? Serious talk, are they not horrible? Are they not woke?

Because Infinitron is an Obsidian shill. Notice that he rated you with "disagree" but avoids the question like a little bitch

No wonder YHWH smote them all the time back then. They are prone to worshipping false idols unquestioningly it seems.

 

[Fedora Master]

Trying to play off how much life you are having while talking about RPGs on a politics forum that occasionally talks about video games is sure proving that. Not that I would blame you if you actually got outside, I loved Belgrade it's a great city definitely better than Avowed so it may be more productive if you fucked Serbian bitches and ate some of that ice cream close to that one mosque in the city but here we are.

Bro, Allah is disappointed in you for playing Awoved. I can feel His disappointment. Not kidding

Fairly certain games with this much gay shit are ABSOLUTELY HARAM but even our resident Musselmen are weak