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Avowed character creation has pronouns - Elon Musk disapproves, Obsidian art director disapproves of his disapproval

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Obsidian Entertainment
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  • Art Director
    Aug 2018 - Present · 6 yrs 4 mos
    • I work with, and manage a diverse team of artists of all disciplines to make the best games possible. I am responsible for facilitating communication between those artists, and between them and other departments, along with providing them guidance, feedback, and support in whatever ways are needed. I also help to provide - and maintain - vision to our marketing team, and outsourcers.

      Titles:
      Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire - Expansion content
      The Outer Worlds - Peril on Gorgon
      The Outer Worlds - Murder on Eridanos
      Avowed
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    Oct 2015 - Present · 9 yrs 2 mos
    • I work with my team to create both production concepts for Environment, Character, and UI, as well as final asset creation for UI and marketing.

      Titles:
      Pillars of Eternity - The White March
      Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire
 

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Funny how quickly Avowed can become Avoided for many

But I will still play the optimist and hope that one brainded self-hating moron does not represent majority of people making the game, even if that majority is quiet out of fear. That said, my enthusiasm in the game dropped significantly.
I guess they added pronouns out of fear too? Come on, Obsidian's been Obshitian for a very long time now and their politics have only been getting less and less disguised with each game. Remember how ridiculous Tyranny was with its gender balancing? If the faction leader is male, his second in command has to be female and vice versa. As fir the one at the very top, uhhhh... the gender's ambiguous (today they'd say he's non-binary or some shit). It was very apparent that it was a deliberate choice and spoke volumes about the mind virus going on in there
 

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Sorry, I wasn't informed that pronouns have become a new normal and we must just accept them and not talk about them

Can you provide with a list of things that we are allowed to complain about, for future reference.
 

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If I fall asleep and wake up in a hundred years and someone asks me what's happening in RPGCodex, I will answer: they bitch and wine about the most pathetic and minor things.
How about you put your money where you mouth is and buy Disavowed as soon as it's ready to go?
 

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  • Art Director
    Aug 2018 - Present · 6 yrs 4 mos
    • I work with, and manage a diverse team of artists of all disciplines to make the best games possible. I am responsible for facilitating communication between those artists, and between them and other departments, along with providing them guidance, feedback, and support in whatever ways are needed. I also help to provide - and maintain - vision to our marketing team, and outsourcers.

      Titles:
      Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire - Expansion content
      The Outer Worlds - Peril on Gorgon
      The Outer Worlds - Murder on Eridanos
      Avowed
  • Concept Artist
    Oct 2015 - Present · 9 yrs 2 mos
    • I work with my team to create both production concepts for Environment, Character, and UI, as well as final asset creation for UI and marketing.

      Titles:
      Pillars of Eternity - The White March
      Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire
Wanted to see what he could have done for Obsidian while working on PoE1&2. While his Artstation account is empty, his own site is not.
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If those illustration under are his then I have little to no complaints about his actual work on the game. But some times, there are good reasons why such people should be directed and not directors or not at the head of the marketing team.

His Tumblr has more but they are weirder.
 

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If I fall asleep and wake up in a hundred years and someone asks me what's happening in RPGCodex, I will answer: they bitch and wine about the most pathetic and minor things.
Obsidian dev picking a fight with the richest man on Earth is not “the pathetic and minor thing”.
 

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Game developers and art people in general, shouldn’t be allowed to voice their opinions openly, until the product has been released for a month at least. Unless it’s some curated interview with journalists.
Otherwise all “talk” must be done by some charisma guy, eg Todd “over 200endings” Howard, just remember to change the guy after four-three releases.
 

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It's not just one guy though, the company will be riddled with retards. If he's willing to go public with statements like that, that will be picked up by the media and tank sales of the game you can only imagine what the guy does around the water cooler and in development meetings etc.

I don't want your politics, I don't want you worldview and I'm unwilling to buy or play anything your team create.
 

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Game developers and art people in general, shouldn’t be allowed to voice their opinions openly, until the product has been released for a month at least. Unless it’s some curated interview with journalists.
Otherwise all “talk” must be done by some charisma guy, eg Todd “over 200endings” Howard, just remember to change the guy after four-three releases.
It's time for companies to crack down on employees talking shit on social media with the company name in their bio.
You can write "my opinions are my own" all you want, but if you're a company employee, talking about the product you're working on in public, you ARE talking for the company.
Almost all the people following you are only there because of your job. Nobody would care what this asshole had to say if he wasn't working for Obsidian.
 

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Infinitrooooooooon You wanted to destroy everything we love? While telling us that: 1)that's a good thing 2)we will enjoy sucking cock and eating shit 3)it ain't even happening 4)eat MORE goyslop.We will destroy everything you shill for including your waifu Obshitian. Fuck you and your narrative control. /RESIGN!
 

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Looks like I called it (wasn't difficult). They really didn't want people to know it's a wokefest before buying it.

Let's make some predictions. Other than the pronouns in character creation, do you think this game will be degenerate or woke in a similar way to Baldur's Gate 3 (bear fucking etc) or Dragon Age Veilguard (pulling a barve cringe scenes)? Do you think we're going to be watching uncut gameplay footage of Avowed in two months and going "Man, there's gay shit everywhere, wtf"?
https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/games/resources/productinclusion/representation/

Might not be as gay as BG3, but it is going to be progressive as hell.

Working under the guidelines set out in that link will absolutely kill any artistic freedom and integrity.

Some nuggets:
  • Are you reinforcing any negative gender stereotypes?
    • Are you unnecessarily introducing gender & gender barriers into your code or design?
    • Are you creating playable female characters that are equal in skill and ability to their male peers. Are your female characters equipped with clothing and armor that fits their tasks? Do they have exaggerated body proportions?
    • When the story allows, do you show male characters who display a full range of emotions, including joy, sadness, and vulnerability?
  • What % of screen time (on screen presence, speaking lines, heroes) is held by different gender/racial identities?
 

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