Avowed character creation has pronouns - Elon Musk disapproves, Obsidian art director disapproves of his disapproval

[Camel]

This thread, and also The Veilguard thread, reminds me of an old video featuring Kevin Smith doing a lecture with Q&A at a university. At some point in the Q&A, a lesbian student asks Kevin Smith why he put in his movie Chasing Amy a character saying "all that any lesbian needs is a good dick to turn her around" which was something that made her dislike the movie, because that message spreads a harmful stereotype and yada yada. You can see Kevin Smith being puzzled but playing it off with humor, in short: Smith tries to explain to the student that that was a line uttered by the idiot character and he trusted his audience to know that the movie and therefore him the writer/director didn't pass it up as truth.

That lecture was from the 2000s. 20-ish years has passed since then. The signs of the decline in media literacy, even on university students, were already there. Granted maybe it's naive of me to expect that universities teach critical thinking as part of their curriculum.

Nuance is verboten, the moral of the story must be hammered down in a way that would make children's literature writers blush.

Modern wokes and leftists hate everything they consider offensive, so your example would be "homophobia" and it's a sin. Now even villains in a story can't have offensive views and be racists and espouse racist views, it could lead to cancellation.

I'll get a ban on the Avowed's Steam community hub too.

 

[Morgoth]

Aha. Already bending over backwards to anything Musk tweets.

Helluva stand you NPCs are taking.

That's a pretty strange stance to take. Plenty of people have been speaking out against this sort of nonsense for quite some time even before Elon began weighing in directly on the matter.

The only 'NPC' in the equation here is you, especially since you don't appear to possess the intellectual capacity to actually parse what I have posted throughout the thread.

Absolutely nothing I have posted has involved fawning over Elon. The majority of my posts since coming here have been voicing opposition to the pandering of autogynephilies and other spiteful mutants as well as taking issue with the anti-white nutters deeply embedded in the video game industry.

Let's not beat around the bush though. Despite having over thirty six thousand posts you don't really have anything of worth to say and so you're desperately taking pot shots hoping that something will stick.

At least call me something that'll make me laugh if you're going to try and insult me.

I'll start taking you serious when *you* actually have something to say.

 

[mondblut]

User submitted tags

Yes users submit tags, but publishers can get steam to remove them

I dare them to try removing the "lgbt+" tag. The reaction will be delicious.

 

[Fargus]

Almost 20 minutes for something that can be recapped in 1 forum post. Fuck grifters, man

I managed to watch it for about 2 before shutting it down. He sounds like rape child of Jim Sterling and that romanian gypsy Vee choking on dick. Seriously if ducks could imitate human speech they would sound exactly like this dude. And if Jewtube wasn't a rotten shit site they would have implemented a rule to forbid people with such annoying voices to make videos long time ago.

So, we are simultaneously glad that our view is becoming mainstream, while at the same time scoffing at people that sympathize with our talking points.

Becoming mainstream is a stretch. This kind of grifting been going on for years.

 

[Thalstarion]

I'll start taking you serious when *you* actually have something to say.

I'm fairly familiar with the tactics of your ilk, so there's no need to pretend. Let's not beat around the bush - you're not going to do anything but move the goalposts and not so subtly seethe that performative pandering is being rightly ridiculed.

Pattern recognition alone shows many red flags with the game. It's utter slop. You're free to be excited and to play it. Though the tide is turning and a bunch of aging, nutty progressives will further lose relevance and scorch the reputation they built up by being involved in better games in days gone by.

 

[Storyfag]

I'll start taking you serious when *you* actually have something to say.

I'm fairly familiar with the tactics of your ilk, so there's no need to pretend. Let's not beat around the bush - you're not going to do anything but move the goalposts and not so subtly seethe that performative pandering is being rightly ridiculed.

Pattern recognition alone shows many red flags with the game. It's utter slop. You're free to be excited and to play it. Though the tide is turning and a bunch of aging, nutty progressives will further lose relevance and scorch the reputation they built up by being involved in better games in days gone by.

Please do not waste your time interacting with Morgoth. He just is like that.

 

[Morgoth]

What a predictable response.

 

[Fargus]

This thread, and also The Veilguard thread, reminds me of an old video featuring Kevin Smith doing a lecture with Q&A at a university. At some point in the Q&A, a lesbian student asks Kevin Smith why he put in his movie Chasing Amy a character saying "all that any lesbian needs is a good dick to turn her around" which was something that made her dislike the movie, because that message spreads a harmful stereotype and yada yada. You can see Kevin Smith being puzzled but playing it off with humor, in short: Smith tries to explain to the student that that was a line uttered by the idiot character and he trusted his audience to know that the movie and therefore him the writer/director didn't pass it up as truth.

That lecture was from the 2000s. 20-ish years has passed since then. The signs of the decline in media literacy, even on university students, were already there. Granted maybe it's naive of me to expect that universities teach critical thinking as part of their curriculum.

Nuance is verboten, the moral of the story must be hammered down in a way that would make children's literature writers blush.

Modern wokes and leftists hate everything they consider offensive, so your example would be "homophobia" and it's a sin. Now even villains in a story can't have offensive views and be racists and espouse racist views, it could lead to cancellation.

I'll get a ban on the Avowed's Steam community hub too.

Weren't you also banned on Vilefart steam forum? I wouldn't do that too often to be honest, because steam jannies are the worst retards and they will eventually just community ban your account if you keep up, after that theyll shitcan the whole thread anyway and go to jerk off to some tranny porn. It's their pathetic existence.

I figured i should warn you because i had three such bans and the last one lasted a month or so. Not worth it.

 

[Alienman]

Becoming mainstream is a stretch. This kind of grifting been going on for years.

True, but the amount of woke gaming failures and angry gamers with pitchforks of late are a refreshing sight. A change is coming. And yes, I agree there is a clear grift, but this guy in particular has been low-key, and above all consistent in his view. So, he is at least not one of the Youtubers that turn their coat after the wind, so to say. However, I just find the increasing pressure on woke devs and publishers great, from whatever direction it comes.

 

[Sweeper]

>i prefer worse games, because the devs post bible verses on twitter
Cuck.

I can somewhat excuse your retard takes, your general faggotry, and your liberal agenda.
I cannot, however, excuse your shit taste in games.

 

[Poseidon00]

There was also that period of time where Deadfire was a financial failure and he believed this was because he was completely out of touch with what fantasy rpg players want (until it made money and he decided it was the marketing).

There is truth to this. I had no idea that there was a Pillars of Eternity sequel until it was over a year past it's release date. Same thing with Tyranny. I consider myself squarely in the market for this sort of thing, and I occasionally visit the hobbyist sites like this one, so there's definitely something wrong if it went entirely over my head.

 

[Camel]

>i prefer worse games, because the devs post bible verses on twitter
Cuck.

Considers himself a hippie and a member of Resistance but supports:
USA
Kamala Harris
Larian

 

[Roguey]

The devs who made my favorite games:

You have Styg, but I'd be cautious about claiming Vavra.

"Our based Jews."

 

[Fargus]

Becoming mainstream is a stretch. This kind of grifting been going on for years.

True, but the amount of woke gaming failures and angry gamers with pitchforks of late are a refreshing sight. A change is coming. And yes, I agree there is a clear grift, but this guy in particular has been low-key, and above all consistent in his view. So, he is at least not one of the Youtubers that turn their coat after the wind, so to say. However, I just find the increasing pressure on woke devs and publishers great, from whatever direction it comes.

I'll believe it when i see it. Because there is Veilguard, but then there is BG3 and people will eat any woke slop if it's fun. Somehow i doubt we will ever see the return of games about badass white macho dudes manhandling hot chicks and killing bad guys. I doubt we will even see something like New Vegas which was somewhat woke but were not afraid to include topics like rape, slavery and war crimes into the story.

Anyway, i'm glad you preserved some optimism

PS. But the guy in the video is a fucking human duck and unwatchable. Fuck this dude.

 

[Sweeper]

The devs who made my favorite games:

You have Styg, but I'd be cautious about claiming Vavra.

"Our based Jews."

This isn't the first time you've managed to ruin something for me by volunteering information I didn't ask for and didn't want to know.
Is ruining things for me a source of dopamine for you, you motherfucker?

 

[whydoibother]

>i prefer worse games, because the devs post bible verses on twitter
Cuck.

Considers himself a hippie and a member of Resistance but supports:
USA
Kamala Harris
Larian

Who are you talking to?

 

[aweigh]

Aha. Already bending over backwards to anything Musk tweets.

Helluva stand you NPCs are taking.

That's a pretty strange stance to take. Plenty of people have been speaking out against this sort of nonsense for quite some time even before Elon began weighing in directly on the matter.

The only 'NPC' in the equation here is you, especially since you don't appear to possess the intellectual capacity to actually parse what I have posted throughout the thread.

Absolutely nothing I have posted has involved fawning over Elon. The majority of my posts since coming here have been voicing opposition to the pandering of autogynephilies and other spiteful mutants as well as taking issue with the anti-white nutters deeply embedded in the video game industry.

Let's not beat around the bush though. Despite having over thirty six thousand posts you don't really have anything of worth to say and so you're desperately taking pot shots hoping that something will stick.

At least call me something that'll make me laugh if you're going to try and insult me.

It's always funny seeing new people discover Morgoth for the first time. Never a pleasant experience for the newcomer, however...

 

[mondblut]

"Our based Jews."

You seem to have a problem with that?

 

[Poseidon00]

Taking one look at this guy tells me he's not jewish. But clearly he's smart enough to play the game. Not many non-Americans can do that, seemingly.

 

[Tweed]

The devs who made my favorite games:

You have Styg, but I'd be cautious about claiming Vavra.

"Our based Jews."

This isn't the first time you've managed to ruin something for me by volunteering information I didn't ask for and didn't want to know.
Is ruining things for me a source of dopamine for you, you motherfucker?

Rogay gets a very large pp from pointing this out because he hates the fact that KCD is a Christian game and he prays every night to Satan that KCD2 will be pozz'd.

 

[Sarkile]

I'll start taking you serious when *you* actually have something to say.

I'm fairly familiar with the tactics of your ilk, so there's no need to pretend. Let's not beat around the bush - you're not going to do anything but move the goalposts and not so subtly seethe that performative pandering is being rightly ridiculed.

Pattern recognition alone shows many red flags with the game. It's utter slop. You're free to be excited and to play it. Though the tide is turning and a bunch of aging, nutty progressives will further lose relevance and scorch the reputation they built up by being involved in better games in days gone by.

Morgoth is just here to farm retard ratings and compete for the Retard of the Year award. It's generally best to just pay him his due and not bother interacting with him.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Feargus burned him really badly with Deadfire

Is Feargus attested somehow, even if vaguely, or is this just your inference?

Sawyer directly stated that the decision to make Deadfire a fully-voiced game in the middle of development put the greatest amount of hardship on him. That was an Urquhart decision.

Just your inference then.

 

[AwesomeButton]

>i prefer worse games, because the devs post bible verses on twitter
Cuck.

It's quite safe to say Underrail is a better RPG than anything Josh Sawyer has directed and anything he will direct.

 

[Lord_Potato]

>i prefer worse games, because the devs post bible verses on twitter
Cuck.

It's quite safe to say Underrail is a better RPG than anything Josh Sawyer has directed and anything he will direct.

But is it more balanced game?

 

[Pink Eye]

Sawyer directly stated that the decision to make Deadfire a fully-voiced game in the middle of development put the greatest amount of hardship on him. That was an Urquhart decision.

I find Deadfire featuring full VA somehow hampering development to always be questionable to me. Mainly considering the simple fact that Obsidian had multiple games in their catalogue that featured full voice acting: Kotor 2, New Vegas, Alpha Protocol, NWN 2, and Stick of Truth. Obsidian has experience in this type of thing. Full VA was also one of the goals during Deadfire's crowd funding campaign. To say this was just dumped on Sawyer, without alarm, is just disingenuous. Remember this was also during the full VA craze that DoS 2 caused - both Obsidian and Josh knew very well the demand.