Avowed character creation has pronouns - Elon Musk disapproves, Obsidian art director disapproves of his disapproval

[cpmartins]

Diversity and inclusion has never done anything of value.

I can tell you, right now. He supports them and approves of their derangement one hundred percent. It's not even a question for him.

47:11 / 1:07:45
"Its senseless complaining, its just noise, woke doesn't even mean anything". Agrees diversity and inclusion be and is done badly, but should be done well and basically he's not who a few posters here seem to think he is.
Liberals and SJWs in video game dev aren't just blue hairs who started working in 2014, its most of the industry veterans that made your favorite games too. In all arts, most artists are like that.

Diversity has never done anything of value. Inclusion, however, is actively detrimental to anything it touches
And I'm fully aware that they are/were. The difference is how they didn't judge the user on how they behaved, as they do now.
Do you notice how he didn't reply to that? Do you know why? I just told you why.
He agrees with everything.

 

[Yoomazir]

I can tell you, right now. He supports them and approves of their derangement one hundred percent. It's not even a question for him.

47:11 / 1:07:45
"Its senseless complaining, its just noise, woke doesn't even mean anything". Agrees diversity and inclusion be and is done badly, but should be done well and basically he's not who a few posters here seem to think he is.
Liberals and SJWs in video game dev aren't just blue hairs who started working in 2014, its most of the industry veterans that made your favorite games too. In all arts, most artists are like that.

They're playing Wolfenstein Youngblood, the most shittiest and wokest game in that ip, during that stream and Josh dares to say this? And he posts on Blueskyforpedos?
Nah dog, this dude is full commie.

 

[Raapys]

Sawyer is no doubt a foul leftist. But on a general note, using anything said in public to prove that someone is a leftist is an absurd exercise, since the vast majority of non-leftists would still publically argue in favor of diversity and inclusion if put on the spot. Refusing to do so would see them risk their job and work relationships and suffer needless drama. I've seen wokes come into a workplace and ask everyone to jump, and then have people you'd consider right-wingers respond with "how high?".

Sensible people avoid drama and don't gamble with their livelihood.

 

[jackofshadows]

I'm not 100% sure what is going on but I'm all for the chaos. Asmongold has a video about it now.

https://youtu.be/wh_zAqIYmYc?si=JWA4XQlYIsQ6QmFD

Not a huge fan of Asmon but what he said is true. This guy is now causing trouble for literally _everyone_ else at the studio. He needs to be fired, if only for that, but also because, well, he's a wrong kind of racist.

Fixed.

 

[A-Minish]

I can tell you, right now. He supports them and approves of their derangement one hundred percent. It's not even a question for him.

47:11 / 1:07:45
"Its senseless complaining, its just noise, woke doesn't even mean anything". Agrees diversity and inclusion be and is done badly, but should be done well and basically he's not who a few posters here seem to think he is.
Liberals and SJWs in video game dev aren't just blue hairs who started working in 2014, its most of the industry veterans that made your favorite games too. In all arts, most artists are like that.

Good to know. Then I will laugh at him. I do not find his answer sensless but rather lacking. Though, taking no risk is understandable

As for the artistic world being mostly like this, yes, may be, sort of, I get what you mean. But obviously a moral shift has occured, because I do not recall seeing so many creators in the 2000s getting so focused on IDPols of all kind or publicly endorsing race-war discourses.

Sometimes I am asking myself what realy went wrong(or right depending of your pov) in their life to take such turns.

Also lol at his "clumsy ways to handle representation". What are the odds he is thinking about his own renaiscentia-africanus ?

 

[Roguey]

That's not the point. Chris' tweet was implying that Josh Sawyer was refusing to work on Avowed because he dislikes the game that much. Evidently, that's not true.

Sawyer didn't exactly seem engaged or thrilled with the idea of working on a title that is a spin-off (whatever you want to call it) of an I.P he was initially heavily involved with.

That doesn't look off to you at all?

Feargus burned him really badly with Deadfire to the point where he just had to not work at all for a while and then on a small personal project. He's also stated in the past that he feels uncomfortable working on games with large teams where he can't be on a first-name basis with everyone. There was also that period of time where Deadfire was a financial failure and he believed this was because he was completely out of touch with what fantasy rpg players want (until it made money and he decided it was the marketing).

Avowed development has also been a typical Obsidian-middle-manager-meddling shitshow:

I may be getting some times wrong, but back in January 2021 the project was so screwed up that Chris Parker was pulled off as project director and replaced with Carrie Patel, Bobby Null was pulled off as creative lead, and Dan Platt was replaced by Matt Hansen as art director. In April 2021 the lead writer Lucien Soulban quit and was replaced by Kate Dollarhyde. In May 2021 Jorge Salgado quit as lead area designer. In May 2022 Dollarhyde quit and was replaced by Robert Lo.

Patel's newly promoted, no one else wanted to touch this. I think the point of Avellone's tweet is just how awful it is to work under Feargus.

 

[Alienman]

Artyoan You are famous.

 

[Haba]

Why doesn't he want to come out of the closet and proudly wear the developer tag instead of larping with a persona he created?

 

[Alienman]

Who?

 

[AwesomeButton]

Feargus burned him really badly with Deadfire

Is Feargus attested somehow, even if vaguely, or is this just your inference?

 

[Pink Eye]

Artyoan You are famous.

Yo that's crazy. Youtubers are reading Kotex. That's a new one for me. I don't think I've ever seen this place get mentioned outside, well, not in youtube.

 

[Fargus]

Artyoan You are famous.

Almost 20 minutes for something that can be recapped in 1 forum post. Fuck grifters, man

I managed to watch it for about 2 before shutting it down. He sounds like rape child of Jim Sterling and that romanian gypsy Vee choking on dick. Seriously if ducks could imitate human speech they would sound exactly like this dude. And if Jewtube wasn't a rotten shit site they would have implemented a rule to forbid people with such annoying voices to make videos long time ago.

 

[Alienman]

Yo that's crazy. Youtubers are reading Kotex. That's a new one for me. I don't think I've ever seen this place get mentioned outside, well, not in youtube.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Yo that's crazy. Youtubers are reading Kotex.

Ofc they are, this is, occasionally, a place of substantive and reasonable discourse. Everywhere else is policed so hard that it's only good for cringe compilation videos.

What's more, I'm sure developers are lurking here, and Obsidian can feel what a flop they have on their hands.

 

[Roguey]

Feargus burned him really badly with Deadfire

Is Feargus attested somehow, even if vaguely, or is this just your inference?

Sawyer directly stated that the decision to make Deadfire a fully-voiced game in the middle of development put the greatest amount of hardship on him. That was an Urquhart decision.

 

[mondblut]

Diversity has never done anything of value.

Objection:

JA2 would be a much poorer game if everyone were Scullies and Lynxes. Try recalling the name of any character from Silent Storm

Problem is, it doesn't scale well for smaller casts that leave you little choice of whom to deal with.

 

[Thalstarion]

Sawyer is no doubt a foul leftist. But on a general note, using anything said in public to prove that someone is a leftist is an absurd exercise, since the vast majority of non-leftists would still publically argue in favor of diversity and inclusion if put on the spot. Refusing to do so would see them risk their job and work relationships and suffer needless drama. I've seen wokes come into a workplace and ask everyone to jump, and then have people you'd consider right-wingers respond with "how high?".

Sensible people avoid drama and don't gamble with their livelihood.

There comes a time when a man (or woman) has to take a stand. Giving lip service to false causes is pathetic. At least the true believers, nutty as they can be, actually believe what they're spouting.

Another reason why it's so pathetic is that a lot of the same 'minorities' that progressives seek to speak for absolutely despise this stuff. There's plenty of gays, bisexuals and lesbians who actively push back against Pride and autogynephilia being peddled everywhere - but you rarely hear from them, in no small part because of men and women like Josh Sawyer who brush off any and all criticism of pandering as 'bigotry' despite being perfectly capable of reflecting nuance within fictional settings.

There's nothing 'sensible' about keeping one's head down and allowing society at large to crumble and decay. Appeasement doesn't work, it just opens the door to even more extreme requests...as we've seen time and time again.

 

[Sweeper]

There comes a time when a man (or woman) has to take a stand.

What an optimistic outlook you have regarding the average man (or woman). The lack of cynicism is refreshing if I'm being entirely honest.

Spoiler

We both know it ain't happening thoughever.

 

[Alienman]

Almost 20 minutes for something that can be recapped in 1 forum post. Fuck grifters, man

I managed to watch it for about 2 before shutting it down. He sounds like rape child of Jim Sterling and that romanian gypsy Vee choking on dick. Seriously if ducks could imitate human speech they would sound exactly like this dude. And if Jewtube wasn't a rotten shit site they would have implemented a rule to forbid people with such annoying voices to make videos long time ago.

So, we are simultaneously glad that our view is becoming mainstream, while at the same time scoffing at people that sympathize with our talking points.

 

[Sweeper]

Liberals and SJWs in video game dev aren't just blue hairs who started working in 2014, its most of the industry veterans that made your favorite games too. In all arts, most artists are like that.

The devs who made your favorite games:

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The devs who made my favorite games:

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We are not the same B*lgarian.

 

[Morgoth]

There comes a time when a man (or woman) has to take a stand.

Aha. Already bending over backwards to anything Musk tweets.

Helluva stand you NPCs are taking.

 

[deuxhero]

And here I thought this game was just going to be a "meh, whatever" forgotten amidst a sea of garbage in the late 2024/early 2025 release window.

 

[whydoibother]

Liberals and SJWs in video game dev aren't just blue hairs who started working in 2014, its most of the industry veterans that made your favorite games too. In all arts, most artists are like that.

The devs who made your favorite games:

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The devs who made my favorite games:

Spoiler

We are not the same B*lgarian.

>i prefer worse games, because the devs post bible verses on twitter
Cuck.

 

[thesecret1]

Liberals and SJWs in video game dev aren't just blue hairs who started working in 2014, its most of the industry veterans that made your favorite games too. In all arts, most artists are like that.

The devs who made your favorite games:

Spoiler

The devs who made my favorite games:

Spoiler

We are not the same B*lgarian.

>i prefer worse games, because the devs post bible verses on twitter
Cuck.

KCD and Underrail are both superior to anything Obsidian had ever produced.

 

[Thalstarion]

Aha. Already bending over backwards to anything Musk tweets.

Helluva stand you NPCs are taking.

That's a pretty strange stance to take. Plenty of people have been speaking out against this sort of nonsense for quite some time even before Elon began weighing in directly on the matter.

The only 'NPC' in the equation here is you, especially since you don't appear to possess the intellectual capacity to actually parse what I have posted throughout the thread.

Absolutely nothing I have posted has involved fawning over Elon. The majority of my posts since coming here have been voicing opposition to the pandering of autogynephilies and other spiteful mutants as well as taking issue with the anti-white nutters deeply embedded in the video game industry.

Let's not beat around the bush though. Despite having over thirty six thousand posts you don't really have anything of worth to say and so you're desperately taking pot shots hoping that something will stick.

At least call me something that'll make me laugh if you're going to try and insult me.