Age of Wonders 3

[Raghar]

The style is atrocious btw.

It's completely in line with previous games. And it's completely passable for a strategy game.

 

[cvv]

The style is atrocious btw.

It's completely in line with previous games. And it's completely passable for a strategy game.

Is it?

 

[Suicidal]

Fucking art style whores.

Only whores don't give a fuck about art.

That may be true but only aspies go ape shit over art in video games.

The artstyle whore is basically a snobby hipster version of a graphics whore.

No those are two planets an universe away.

Graphic whores are stupid fucks who can't play anything from 2007 and older because myieeee no tesselation myieeee.

Art whor connoiseur can fall in love with something comprised of seven pixels and shit profusely on ugly pieces of brand new shit like the character models above.

I realize there is no point in having this conversation with you because you are biased as fuck, but in my eyes both graphics whores and art whores are just as bad. The reasoning of both basically boils down to "I don't like this game because I don't like the way it or some of its parts look". Myself, I play games for the fun they provide me with, and stuff like size of fantasy swords wielded by green men does not bother nor concern me in the slightest.

Fucking art style whores.

The fact that I look forward to this game does not mean I can overlook things I dont like. Actually the more I want a game to be good the more issues I usually have with it.

I dont understand why criticism of any kind is sometimes met with enmity. Yes, there are worse games, yes there are games with worse art but so what cant we compare with the best out there?

I don't mind complaining about art but what kinda irks me is the hypocrisy and complete lacks of self-awareness of some codexers that rage at people refusing to play old games cause of 'bad graphics' while essentially acting the same way (ARMAGHED CARTOONY GRAFX/ART/WHATEVER 1/10 WOULD NOT BANG). I guess this line of thinking is just completely alien to me.

 

[cvv]

The reasoning of both basically boils down to "I don't like this game because I don't like the way it or some of its parts look".

I didn't say I didn't like the game.

Get it now?

 

[Suicidal]

The reasoning of both basically boils down to "I don't like this game because I don't like the way it or some of its parts look".

I didn't say I didn't like the game.

Get it now?

I'm not speaking about you, but this mentality in general - I know that many people on the codex refused to play certain games cause they do not like the way they look. Likewise, I know some graphic whores IRL who furiously fap to the latest call of duty realistic explosions and don't like to play old games cause they don't like the way they look. I know outright refusing to play a game because of the visual element is the extreme in both cases, but these extremes are quite common.

 

[octavius]

this mentality in general - I know that many people on the codex refused to play certain games cause they do not like the way they look. Likewise, I know some graphic whores IRL who furiously fap to the latest call of duty realistic explosions and don't like to play old games cause they don't like the way they look. I know outright refusing to play a game because of the visual element is the extreme in both cases, but these extremes are quite common.

Is not liking anime art style extreme?

 

[Malakal]

As a man that finished several rogue-likes I feel entitled to bitch about graphics whenever I want.

But man do I HATE this fucking 3D shit. I miss the old drawn 2D artwork we had before. This is why in comparison AoW2 looks so much better than 3 at least character portrait wise. Low res units dont look great either.

 

[Suicidal]

this mentality in general - I know that many people on the codex refused to play certain games cause they do not like the way they look. Likewise, I know some graphic whores IRL who furiously fap to the latest call of duty realistic explosions and don't like to play old games cause they don't like the way they look. I know outright refusing to play a game because of the visual element is the extreme in both cases, but these extremes are quite common.

Is not liking anime art style extreme?

If due to not liking this art style you choose to not play games that otherwise pass all the requirements you might have then yes. It's the same as liking Dragon Age but hating Baldur's Gate 'cause it looks worse'.

 

[Raghar]

The style is atrocious btw.

It's completely in line with previous games. And it's completely passable for a strategy game.

Is it?

Yes, the first one is an artist drawing, the second one is 3D render from game. Aside of having too thin upper arms in that 3D render, they kept art style sufficiently close to the original art style.

 

[cvv]

Yes, the first one is an artist drawing, the second one is 3D render from game.

Well that's the main problem right there.

 

[Raghar]

I don't think it's a problem. The first one was a wallpaper, thus it must be a drawing. However you can't heve 300 units and high ress drawings for each of them. When they are looking decent in 3D, and fine on battlemap, it's superior to few low res portraits and few rehashed models.

 

[octavius]

this mentality in general - I know that many people on the codex refused to play certain games cause they do not like the way they look. Likewise, I know some graphic whores IRL who furiously fap to the latest call of duty realistic explosions and don't like to play old games cause they don't like the way they look. I know outright refusing to play a game because of the visual element is the extreme in both cases, but these extremes are quite common.

Is not liking anime art style extreme?

If due to not liking this art style you choose to not play games that otherwise pass all the requirements you might have then yes. It's the same as liking Dragon Age but hating Baldur's Gate 'cause it looks worse'.

No, it's not the same thing. I find most of the anime downright offensive, and some of it looks like the sick work of pedophiles. Gaming involves lots of staring at a screen, and when doing that you don't want to look at something that you find revolting.

And I think most people who don't like Dragon Age don't like it due to the artwork.

 

[Tomipapa]

This is why in comparison AoW2 looks so much better than 3 at least character portrait wise.

You forget one thing. You can't make artworks for fully customizable heroes, simply because you can't cover every possibilities. And there is one thing i hate even more than bad 3d models, when your freaking avatar doesn't match with the actual look of your hero. Imagine that, they will make 10-15 different art portraits for the elves, covering the typical elven arctypes like Legolas, Elrond, wise grey old dude ect. But you want to make a half eyed grim elf with green dreadlocks so you spend quite much time with the customizer creating this hero. After that, you suddenly realize there is no such art portrait in the game, so you have to choose Mr Legolas, Elrond or other typical elf as your portrait, and every time you zoom at your hero, you will see this grim half eyed green dreadlocked dude, but when you look at his portrait mr beautiful blonde shining teeth stereotypical elf will smile back at you... If i spend half an our with customizing the look of my hero then i want his face as an avatar/portrait not some artwork with zero connection to the actual looks of my hero. Now you can start wondering why games where you can fully customize the look of your hero come without art portraits.

Low res units dont look great either.

You mean these are better

Than this?Ok...

Besides the shitty Heroes 6, AoW 3 will be the best looking tbs out there. Better than Civilization 5, Eador , Dominion 4 or Worlds of Magic.

I miss the old drawn 2D artwork we had before.

As you can see the buildings have 2d artwork icon(unlike AoW 2) and the unit abilities also have artwork icons(again unlike AoW 2). The devs also said something about the campaign will be again "journal like" with artworks(AoW 1 style). So i would say we might even have more artworks in game than in AoW 2...

 

[hoverdog]

You mean these are better

FWIW, Worlds of Magic looks MUCH better now.

 

[octavius]

Terrain looks very good, units look good enough, but I still don't like the look of unit "cards" and the side menus (looks too much like it's from a tablet game).

 

[Space Satan]

You forget one thing. You can't make artworks for fully customizable heroes, simply because you can't cover every possibilities.

Crusader kings 2 did it...and sold it as a DLC.

 

[Groof]

I thought the hero pics Tomipapa posted looked maybe mildly wonky. But watching the theocrat and dreadnought videos at http://www.ageofwonders.com/trailer/ I thought the ones there looked fine. Not sure if because of different in-game graphics-tightening, animations, size, or whatever. It's probably fine. (Also the one cvv quoted looked particularly wonky. Most of the ones at http://www.nilsruisch.com/index.html look way better.)

Not playing a game because it looks horrible is okay, if it looks really horrible. Nothing shown so far is anywhere near that level of horrible. And I don't know that people have really suggested that it is (but I have not been paying a great deal of attention, so eh).

People probably come off a little more whorey than they are; given what has been shown so far it's very hard to judge how it plays and very easy to judge how it looks.

Sword sizes are exaggerated, but not obscene. Freaking out about it sounds kind of derpy/larpy (like, "and I noticed immediately, because all the swording I do in my day-to-day life").

 

[Haba]

the best looking tbs out there.

If I was your father, you'd be disowned by now.

 

[Tomipapa]

If I was your father, you'd be disowned by now.

Say something useful and/or constructive next time, or don't say anything at all. You are not even funny, only 12 years old tards would laugh on your writings. And you are a Patron? Patron of trolls or what? Well, i don't give a shit about your meaningless titles anyway
But lets see:

Is AoW 3 looks better than Civ 5? Yes
than Fallen Enchantress? Yes
than Eador MoBW?Yes
than Warlock MoA?Yes
than Worlds of Magic?Yes
than Dominion 4?Yes
than Heroes 6? NO, but i said "besides heroes 6"

And i don't consider Rome 2 a a "true" tbs with the real time battles. Also i talk about 3d games, so 15 years old lovely 2d pixel art turn based strategies don't count. Lastly, before someone consider me as a graphics whore i don't really care about it in a strategy game, i will happily play with Worlds of Magic, and i regularly play with older classics like Heroes 2, Lords of Magic, Master of Orion 2 ect. but it's a fucking fact that AoW 3 is looks better than most tbs out there.

 

[Cyberarmy]

Meh, for me Disciples 2 is better looking than AoW3 in both campaign and battle maps wise.
Or Dragon Commander if you are looking for a fresh 3D game.

Can anyone tell me why are you arguing about graphics also? Grahpicwhoring in TB strategy games ...

 

[Haba]

Lastly, before someone consider me as a graphics whore i don't really care about it in a strategy game

That'd work a lot better if you hadn't just spent your past posts on graphicswhoring... Keep working at it, with such dedication you'll eventually have a special custom tag yourself!

 

[catfood]

I just noticed a dire(?) penguin in that screenshot.

 

[Cyberarmy]

I just noticed a dire(?) penguin in that screenshot.

It is a Macaroni Penguin!!!!!

 

[catfood]

Sorry I don't speak italiano.

 

[Tomipapa]

That'd work a lot better if you hadn't just spent your past posts on graphicswhoring... Keep working at it, with such dedication you'll eventually have a special custom tag yourself!

You don't even know what whoring means. Did i say " zomg worlds of magic[insert any other tbs game here] is an ugly shit i will never play with cause the only important thing for me is the graphics and i masturbate on Crysis 3 regularly ect."?That would be graphics whoring. But i never said anything like this, just that x game looks better than y. End of story. On the official forum im one of the few who's protecting this game when real graphics whores(mostly HoMM 6 fanboys) come there and continuously saying: wtf guys you can't release a game in 2014 without 5 sec long übersupercool attack animations and fancy eye blinding spell effects". Or " wtf guys improve the graphics cause Rome2 or call of duty looks better"...

Can anyone tell me why are you arguing about graphics also? Grahpicwhoring in TB strategy games ...

Ask those codexians who crawled out from the cave saying "meh, fu its ugly as fuck meh,fu " Typical codexian bs that every 3d game is ugly, and only the 2d pixel arts can be good.