Your Best Tactical RPG (for real, the best ones )

[LibertyRansom]

Eador: Genesis (with the New Horizons Mod.)

It is the best 4X tactical I've ever played and its free now. Here is the link http://eador.online.fr/Eador281a.zip

Why is it great?

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First, great setting and story. Second, the combat encounters are both simple and incredibly complex, like a chess game. Every fight is different and varied because there are over 200 Units, each which can be leveled up from level 1 to level 30, with different choices on each level up. Third, it has an incredible depth of content that makes no two games the same. Thousands of items, spells, equipment, etc. Hundreds of random events with tons of different choices, which have varied results based on whether you are playing good, evil, neutral, etc. There are so many different ways to play.

 

[Darth Canoli]

LibertyRansom
Thanks for the link, didn't know this game.

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Still, i was disappointed by every 4X i tried in the past few years, it's slow, there isn't any travel options, performances issues or gets old quickly.
According to steam reviews, this one is no different (checked gameplay videos too )

Please, keep them coming, other players might also find their alpha and omega in these pages.

 

[Citizen]

LibertyRansom
Thanks for the link, didn't know this game.

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Still, i was disappointed by every 4X i tried in the past few years, it's slow, there isn't any travel options, performances issues or gets old quickly.
According to steam reviews, this one is no different (checked gameplay videos too )

Please, keep them coming, other players might also find their alpha and omega in these pages.

Eador genesis is huge incline, probably the best game ever made in russia. But prepare to get raped at first try.

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Or first five tries.

It has no perfomance issues, and it doesn't get old with NH mod, because it adds tons of new content.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

probably the best game ever made in russia

Damn close though.

 

[Citizen]

probably the best game ever made in russia

Damn close though.

What's the best then? Ebil Islands, H&S, 7.62, King's Bounty, Space Rangers, Remember Tommorow, Perimeter? They are good, but either flawed or shovelware-ish, Eador feels more complete than any of them.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

probably the best game ever made in russia

Damn close though.

What's the best then? Ebil Islands, H&S, 7.62, King's Bounty, Space Rangers, Remember Tommorow, Perimeter? They are good, but either flawed or shovelware-ish, Eador feels more complete than any of them.

You do have a point there. Well except Hammer and Sickle, maybe.
As much as I love Eador, these days I'm heavily biased towards Age of Pirates.

 

[laclongquan]

Hammer & Sickle satisfy your very niche taste of ww2 theme, tactical TB, gunporn, coldwar, spy RPG. It's the apex that you will never find its replacement. It's just the spot if you have a sudden hankering for Colt M1911 versus cut-barrel Lee Enfield versus Browning HP, riddle a man full of bullets that push him off the ledge of a building to his death...

Its developers are building Kingmakers game with MCA right now~

 

[Plisken]

^^^^

Brigade E5
7.62 High Calibre
Men Of Prey

Hands down the best tactical games with rpg elements made till this day. And it is all because of the magnificent SPM mechanincs stuffed with ridiculous details.

lol i wouldn't go that far wildman

they are interesting tech demos at best. 7.62 was a graphical upgrade while being a gameplay downgrade from brigade E5, which was rough at guts. In spite of that, E5 has working suppression mechanics, and maps with multiple detailed enterable buildings, with combat often taking place in there. Great fun once you get the hang of the often obnoxiously obtuse controls and SPM system. 7.62 on the other hand, has dumbed down AI, with no suppression, no flanking, and they warp through walls often. The maps are bland jungle lanes, and there is maybe 3 enterable buildings with very simple geometry in the entire game.

these games are basically gun porn games, because theres very little depth.

 

[Darth Canoli]

Plisken thanks for the insight, Snake ;-)

Circuit King's Bounty, still, for some reason, battles takes too long, a real shame.

 

[D_F_N]

They are tech demos compared to what? Cause if they are tech demos, then the games that you are comparing them to must be graded "shit" using the same scale.

Darth Canolli, if you really like tactical games then i strongly suggest you try them for yourself.

 

[PanteraNera]

So, i think i played the best ones and there is a huge lack of Tactical RPG, specially on the PC platform.

- JA 2 (i hated this one for some reason )

 

[Galdred]

Please make this kind of threads in the Tactical section of the forum, so that I don't find them 1 year later!

Regarding Blood Bowl, it has one of the best character development systems actually:
On level up, each character has a set of abilities they can take, but they also roll 2 dice, which can grant access to:
Abilities from another pool (ie agility skills for a blocker), or one stat increase (STR, AG, Movement, Armor), which can completely change the way the character is played.
It also ensures two teams will never be the same.

That said, it should not be played against Cyanide retarded AI. It is mostly a MP game.

Chaos Gate has very minimal character development (random stats and skill increase on level up), but is very atmospheric, has jetpacks, melee heavy weapons, and peashooters(aka regular bolters).
Also why is Invisible Inc not in this list.
It is a tactical infiltration game, which really deserves to be there.

In the same vein as Natuk/Nalkah, Helherron has a lot of positionning abilities.

Now, for the almost there games:
SFD: party based (almost) roguelike. Too short, and not enough diversity, but the positioning abilities are great, and it has a lot of different builds.
The Storm Guard: Darkness is Coming: Battle Brothers lesser known cousin. It has a ton of great ideas (larger monsters, magic), but the battles are a bit repetitive (you always face a similar number of enemies). But I spent 70h on it, so I guess repetition was not such a big problem.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

Of the new games I would add Fell Seal: Arbiter's Mark to recommendations.
Its pretty neat japanese style tactical RPG, but I think OP is familiar with it.

 

[laclongquan]

I want to reiterate other's recommendation of Valkyria Chronicles.

In term of tactics, it's the method of "optimization of every single rounds" that is the apex of tactical turn based battle with tight timeline. You play mission until you figure out how to play each round with absolute efficiency.

Of course, you dont need to play it that way, and you dont need to play it at highest difficulty~

That art style is also very european-ism being a good point.