X-COM XCOM 2 + War of the Chosen Expansion Thread

[agris]

Any mods for this that remove the pod system and change the 2 ap system to something more granular?

is it too much to ask that they don’t also make the game retarded in the process?

Just switch to Phoenix Point.

That’s a good point, but I really dislike the aesthetics of PP’s gobbledygook countries and factions. Backing away from using real nations was a limp dick move, and kinda kills the immersion for me. Makes the game feel more like a toy.

It is not like Xcom 2 does much with it.

That’s fair, but honestly they don’t need to do much with it. Having the game rooted in reality vs PP’s nonsense, combined with PP’s generic as fuck design elements, makes it fairly unappealing

I say this as a backer of PP’s Kickstarter who followed the degradation of the original pitch to its current commercial release. PP falls down on the aesthetics (at least), while nuXcom falls down on mechanics.

I guess neither is ready to hold the X-com mantle.

 

[Parabalus]

Any mods for this that remove the pod system and change the 2 ap system to something more granular?

is it too much to ask that they don’t also make the game retarded in the process?

Just switch to Phoenix Point.

That’s a good point, but I really dislike the aesthetics of PP’s gobbledygook countries and factions. Backing away from using real nations was a limp dick move, and kinda kills the immersion for me. Makes the game feel more like a toy.

It is not like Xcom 2 does much with it.

That’s fair, but honestly they don’t need to do much with it. Having the game rooted in reality vs PP’s nonsense, combined with PP’s generic as fuck design elements, makes it fairly unappealing

I say this as a backer of PP’s Kickstarter who followed the degradation of the original pitch to its current commercial release. PP falls down on the aesthetics (at least), while nuXcom falls down on mechanics.

I guess neither is ready to hold the X-com mantle.

I think this criticism applies to PP much more when compared with XCOM than with XCOM2, especially with WotC.

 

[GrainWetski]

Any mods for this that remove the pod system and change the 2 ap system to something more granular?

is it too much to ask that they don’t also make the game retarded in the process?

Just switch to Phoenix Point.

That’s a good point, but I really dislike the aesthetics of PP’s gobbledygook countries and factions. Backing away from using real nations was a limp dick move, and kinda kills the immersion for me. Makes the game feel more like a toy.

It is not like Xcom 2 does much with it.

That’s fair, but honestly they don’t need to do much with it. Having the game rooted in reality vs PP’s nonsense, combined with PP’s generic as fuck design elements, makes it fairly unappealing

I say this as a backer of PP’s Kickstarter who followed the degradation of the original pitch to its current commercial release. PP falls down on the aesthetics (at least), while nuXcom falls down on mechanics.

I guess neither is ready to hold the X-com mantle.

So FiraXCOM looking like FiraXCOM is great but Phoenix Point aping that awful 'aesthetic' is a problem? The entire failure of Phoenix Point is that it's just a slightly better FiraXCOM because they did a 180 and went after that audience after pitching something different.

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

Any mods for this that remove the pod system and change the 2 ap system to something more granular?

is it too much to ask that they don’t also make the game retarded in the process?

Just switch to Phoenix Point.

That’s a good point, but I really dislike the aesthetics of PP’s gobbledygook countries and factions. Backing away from using real nations was a limp dick move, and kinda kills the immersion for me. Makes the game feel more like a toy.

It is not like Xcom 2 does much with it.

That’s fair, but honestly they don’t need to do much with it. Having the game rooted in reality vs PP’s nonsense, combined with PP’s generic as fuck design elements, makes it fairly unappealing

I say this as a backer of PP’s Kickstarter who followed the degradation of the original pitch to its current commercial release. PP falls down on the aesthetics (at least), while nuXcom falls down on mechanics.

I guess neither is ready to hold the X-com mantle.

So FiraXCOM looking like FiraXCOM is great but Phoenix Point aping that awful 'aesthetic' is a problem? The entire failure of Phoenix Point is that it's just a slightly better FiraXCOM because they did a 180 and went after that audience after pitching something different.

I wouldn't say it's the "entire" failure but it's part of it.
The whole Epic Games Store thing didn't do it any favors either.
I swear EGS is a toxin to games. All it seems to do is split the player base and kill sales.

Apparently Troy Total War is decent now after they added monsters, but you'd never know it because of the EGS shit.

 

[agris]

Any mods for this that remove the pod system and change the 2 ap system to something more granular?

is it too much to ask that they don’t also make the game retarded in the process?

Just switch to Phoenix Point.

That’s a good point, but I really dislike the aesthetics of PP’s gobbledygook countries and factions. Backing away from using real nations was a limp dick move, and kinda kills the immersion for me. Makes the game feel more like a toy.

It is not like Xcom 2 does much with it.

That’s fair, but honestly they don’t need to do much with it. Having the game rooted in reality vs PP’s nonsense, combined with PP’s generic as fuck design elements, makes it fairly unappealing

I say this as a backer of PP’s Kickstarter who followed the degradation of the original pitch to its current commercial release. PP falls down on the aesthetics (at least), while nuXcom falls down on mechanics.

I guess neither is ready to hold the X-com mantle.

So FiraXCOM looking like FiraXCOM is great but Phoenix Point aping that awful 'aesthetic' is a problem? The entire failure of Phoenix Point is that it's just a slightly better FiraXCOM because they did a 180 and went after that audience after pitching something different.

That's a really strange reading of what I wrote. I like my Xcom-likes rooted in reality, PP's aesthetics are off-putting for both the made-up countries/factions as well as the bland design.

That doesn't mean nuXcom is *good*.

 

[Ibn Sina]

PP aesthetic is like that of toy solders, everything looks plastic like toy pieces. It is a far cry from what they promised in the initial screenshots and gameplay, where the characters and models had a more detailed, realistic look. I have no idea how they managed to pull such a brazen lie. The game looks way different from what was shown.

 

[Alienman]

RIP Firaxis Xcom

 

[IDtenT]

Huh. This made me look to see that Brian Reynolds is back with Firaxis???

 

[Ironmonk]

If this guy had the opportunity to make Xcom 3, it would be a huge disappointment... why? since the tweet someone posted showing him bowing to Wokeism is evidently clear the direction he would probably take... not that another dev would not do the same anyway, but at least it would be expected instead of a disappointment.

 

[OSK]

I wonder if being forced to make that Marvel game is what did him in.

 

[Zombra]

If this guy had the opportunity to make Xcom 3, it would be a huge disappointment... why? since the tweet someone posted showing him bowing to Wokeism is evidently clear the direction he would probably take... not that another dev would not do the same anyway, but at least it would be expected instead of a disappointment.

Yeah, XCOM 3 would prob let you have black women as soldiers ... oh wait

 

[Space Satan]

Who holds Alpha Centauri IP? Firaxis? Reynolds?

 

[Ironmonk]

If this guy had the opportunity to make Xcom 3, it would be a huge disappointment... why? since the tweet someone posted showing him bowing to Wokeism is evidently clear the direction he would probably take... not that another dev would not do the same anyway, but at least it would be expected instead of a disappointment.

Yeah, XCOM 3 would prob let you have black women as soldiers ... oh wait

Once infected by the woke mind-virus you get the whole package + a permanent debuff called "impaired competence".

 

[Zeriel]

RIP Firaxis Xcom

I'm a little bit surprised, but also kind of not. In retrospect, that makes all the "ackshually, making a Marvel game was totally our idea!" stuff seem like it was filmed at gunpoint.

 

[Average Manatee]

I'm a little bit surprised, but also kind of not. In retrospect, that makes all the "ackshually, making a Marvel game was totally our idea!" stuff seem like it was filmed at gunpoint.

That wasn't the final straw though, so it must be that something even worse is in the works that he is resigning over.

 

[Alienman]

That wasn't the final straw though, so it must be that something even worse is in the works that he is resigning over.

Get prepared for Xcom FTP survival mmo.

 

[geno]

Besides Solomon leaving Firaxis, Firaxis has a new president: https://www.gurufocus.com/news/1952620/a-new-era-begins-at-firaxis-games
Before she joined Firaxis, she worked as Executive producer at Popcat. She's gulity of Fortnite or Plant v Zombies, to name popular titles.

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

Besides Solomon leaving Firaxis, Firaxis has a new president: https://www.gurufocus.com/news/1952620/a-new-era-begins-at-firaxis-games
Before she joined Firaxis, she worked as Executive producer at Popcat. She's gulity of Fortnite or Plant v Zombies, to name popular titles.

Oh boy, I sure can't wait for XCOM 3 to be a battle royal party game with cartoony graphics, bland character models, lootboxes and mutons flossing.

 

[Space Satan]

transgender sectorids all the way

 

[Zombra]

Once infected by the woke mind-virus you get the whole package + a permanent debuff called "impaired competence".

Ah, got it. Because all the competent games out there were made by right wingers.

 

[geno]

Once infected by the woke mind-virus you get the whole package + a permanent debuff called "impaired competence".

Ah, got it. Because all the competent games out there were made by right wingers.

Or just people who didn't have their heads shoved in their asses.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

cartoony graphics, bland character models

already there.

 

[Ironmonk]

Once infected by the woke mind-virus you get the whole package + a permanent debuff called "impaired competence".

Ah, got it. Because all the competent games out there were made by right wingers.

While all Woke infected individuals are also always a Leftist, not all Leftists are Woke.

 

[Alienman]

There is:

Right & Left, and then -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- batshit insane progressives over here.

To be fair, Xcom always had a global vibe, even the first ones. However, it fits the setting, as it never felt woke to me. Xenonauts 1 is a bit different though since it's set in 70-80s during the cold war. Getting 50% female recruits always felt off to me in that game.

 

[Galdred]

RIP Firaxis Xcom

Besides Solomon leaving Firaxis, Firaxis has a new president: https://www.gurufocus.com/news/1952620/a-new-era-begins-at-firaxis-games
Before she joined Firaxis, she worked as Executive producer at Popcat. She's gulity of Fortnite or Plant v Zombies, to name popular titles.

It is possible people are leaving Firaxis because of the change of management? It might be reasonable it you expect things to go downhill, both creatively and internally. It also sounds like the time Firaxis was left alone to do whatever it wanted is over, with a tighter corporate control from its parent company.