World of warcraft: Shadowlands announced

[gruntar]

This trailer was the first time I didn't even get remotely excited about an expansion. Absolutely awful and can we please for the love of god finally get rid of Sylvanas, I mean jeez Sylvanas this Sylvanas that, I can't stand to see her and her super duper megapowers anymore

I'm afraid that Sylvanus isn't going anywhere while this guy is in charge of writing:

Spoiler

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Ohhh no...

I always wondered how Nathanos went from the guy you killed for the Gorewood Bow to some unkillable retard that's in seemingly EVERY fucking cutscene.

 

[J1M]

Pretty sloppy to use the Jailer of the Damned to intro your new expansion with a mysterious villain named The Jailer. Someone buy Steve a thesaurus.com link for Christmas.

 

[Metro]

t3h J4ilorzzz!

 

[MajorMace]

So this dude is having a power fantasy about being the submissive lover of a godlike bitch ?
Reminds me of that rick & morty episode where they go for space couple counseling. Exception being that the dad in that episode actually gets his shit together while this dude seems to fantasize about being cucked by a fictional female Hercules.

 

[cw8]

I hate the way they treat Bolvar. The dude used to take down hordes of Horde when they raided Stormwind back in vanilla. He's our fucking champion then, now he's like a flaming joke.

 

[Generic-Giant-Spider]

Sylvanas has beaten both Bolvar and Saurfang almost back to back.

l0l

 

[Popiel]

At this point if you want to play WoW the story is just to be simply ignored. It was never this stuipd. Not even during Garrosh's little trip to the past.

 

[Reever]

I hate the way they treat Bolvar. The dude used to take down hordes of Horde when they raided Stormwind back in vanilla. He's our fucking champion then, now he's like a flaming joke.

Yeah, we felt the same way about Saurfang.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Sylvanas, Kerrigan, and now Lilith.

I'm starting to see a pattern here. Ho right.

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

At this point if you want to play WoW the story is just to be simply ignored. It was never this stuipd. Not even during Garrosh's little trip to the past.

If sylvanas was a guy would it not be as stupid?

 

[Popiel]

If sylvanas was a guy would it not be as stupid?

No.

And shut the fuck up with these leftists retardations.

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

If sylvanas was a guy would it not be as stupid?

No.

And shut the fuck up with these leftists retardations.

mad cuz u know i'm right

sexist

 

[Popiel]

What a fuckin' retard.

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

What a fuckin' retard.

not an argument

sexist

 

[J1M]

At this point if you want to play WoW the story is just to be simply ignored. It was never this stuipd. Not even during Garrosh's little trip to the past.

If sylvanas was a guy would it not be as stupid?

Not a hypothetical question. Garrosh was stripped of everything and killed in a duel where his opponent cheated.

 

[Popiel]

Not a hypothetical question. Garrosh was stripped of everything and killed in a duel where his opponent cheated.

A popular mistake. It's never stated in main continuity that you can't use magic in mak'gora.

 

[J1M]

Not a hypothetical question. Garrosh was stripped of everything and killed in a duel where his opponent cheated.

A popular mistake. It's never stated in main continuity that you can't use magic in mak'gora.

You're right, it's totally not cheating. The elements stopped allowing Thrall to cast shaman spells immediately after that duel for completely unrelated reasons.

 

[Popiel]

You're right, it's totally not cheating. The elements stopped allowing Thrall to cast shaman spells immediately after that duel for completely unrelated reasons.

Doesn't really matter in this context. You can use magic during mak'gora, it's never stated to be otherwise in main continuity. Therefore Thrall did not cheat, him being unable to call upon the elements after killing Garrosh has nothing to do with his chosen method of killing the latter, and all to do with killing Garrosh in itself. Shamanistic magic is not like arcane wizardry, you can loose ability to cast because of personal reasons (wielding the Light is similar in this respect, for example).

Moreover, it doesn't really matter. Garrosh was an interesting character, Sylvanas is an anime meme.

 

[Sykar]

This trailer was the first time I didn't even get remotely excited about an expansion. Absolutely awful and can we please for the love of god finally get rid of Sylvanas, I mean jeez Sylvanas this Sylvanas that, I can't stand to see her and her super duper megapowers anymore

Well for the most part she failed at almost every turn, and they turned her into Garrosh 2.0 in the last expansion. She was hardly present from Classic/TBC until Cata, much less than the usual Thrall/Jaina/Varian/etc.
Bear in mind I am a hardcore UD player. When I stopped playing at the end of Cata/start of Pandaland I had three UD mages at max level and a UD DK. Still have my very first UD mage on a German server before I restarted on an English server. Now in Classic I started, drummroll, my old first max level UD mage though she is just slacking around in Tirisfall.
Old ladies deserve some rest in peace and quiet.

 

[Popiel]

Well for the most part she failed at almost every turn, and they turned her into Garrosh 2.0 in the last expansion.

That's the worst part. She failed nothing, even though it can be said so by the characters in-game (who know less than players do). Her plan is to feed the Jailer with as many souls as possible to power him/it up. She succeeded at that brilliantly so far, by causing the Fourth War and committing atrocities on an almost unheard of scale (burning of Teldrassil for example). Garrosh failed in all of his designs, as of now Sylvanas achieves her goals.

 

[Sykar]

Well for the most part she failed at almost every turn, and they turned her into Garrosh 2.0 in the last expansion.

That's the worst part. She failed nothing, even though it can be said so by the characters in-game (who know less than players do). Her plan is to feed the Jailer with as many souls as possible to power him/it up. She succeeded at that brilliantly so far, by causing the Fourth War and committing atrocities on an almost unheard of scale (burning of Teldrassil for example). Garrosh failed in all of his designs, as of now Sylvanas achieves her goals.

I guess I need to clarify. I was speaking of her success until Arthas fell including how she failed to defeat him in WC3. Suffice to say there is hardly any noteworthy victory achieved on her part apart from securing Lordaeron and forming an alliance with the Horde.

 

[Reever]

Garrosh was an interesting character

He was until Pandas where they turned him into a saturday morning cartoon villain because they needed a loot pinnata. The sad part is that mak'gora cutscene is the most character development he had gotten in 2 expansions.

 

[Popiel]

He was until Pandas where they turned him into a saturday morning cartoon villain because they needed a loot pinnata. The sad part is that mak'gora cutscene is the most character development he had gotten in 2 expansions.

I would argue that he was an interesting character all the way through, just in concept more than in execution of said concept.

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

"Sylvanas would be an interesting character, if she was a he"

-Codex

 

[Pika-Cthulhu]

So this jailer takes souls, like the demons of the burning legion do. Is he a demon type monster? An elemental lord? Shadow elemental? What is it with horde and working for demons?