Game News Wasteland 2 Kickstarter Update #31: OMG DISTRIBUTION DEAL, also new HUD screenshots

[hiver]

swap the new weapon pic into the equipped weapon slot, brink back the bar background from the first mockup and switch dialogue screen for the new one.
icons under the character portraits should use the green on black style instead.

dont like green light behind selected party member. dont like red damage overlay.

bring back light bulbs.

first mockup was much better.

end turn should be on top of that section, for ease of access - we will be using it a lot, or at least often, probably.

 

[Surf Solar]

That looks awesome, Phantasmal! If they include your UI and will also allow orthographic rendering, then I might even get exited for the game. :D

 

[A user named cat]

Unfortunately the damage overlays are stuck, forgot to make a new layer over each portrait. Woops. Anyway, with some of Hiver's suggestions, here:

 

[undecaf]

That looks nice. Although, the AP counter could be more visible and up front, it looks kinda hidden as a small patch like that under the tubes considering its importance. There's room for a Fallout styles AP counter above the portraits (or it could be above the weapon image too like it is now; just more highlighted).

 

[Kem0sabe]

I like that green dot weapon display so much that i wish they went with it for all the text and weapon/item displays in game, especially if it's not static and the dots are animated.

Dunno why theydidn't stick with their original concept, much better than the crap they have been turning out.

 

[hiver]

Im looking at that mini map, on all screenshots, and it says exactly piss nothing about what it is supposed to show.

Im using professional maps for my work everyday and if someone would give me a map of some smaller location looking like that i would either crack laughing my ass off or punch them out, depending on the seriousness of the situation.
Let alone imagining bringing such indistinct piece of... nothing, to my ex sarge. fucking hell
i would be running around platoon and cleaning poo at the same time for the rest of the service. (he would figure out a way how to make it work, trust me)

thats really, just a ... a mess. I cant see shit there. really.



I just thought i better turn someones attention to it before its too late and it ends like so many horrible examples of the same we saw everywhere.

BN, didnt you say you guys had some veterans as advisers? Show them that map, tell them to use it to find something, anything - get ready for buckets of facepalms and lulz .

 

[Kem0sabe]

Fallout 1 and 2 were perfectly manageable without minimap.

 

[Country_Gravy]

The UI is perfect. Only think I would change is maybe making the dot matrix printer paper about 4x the size.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

Not professional quality or anything but still along the lines of how I wish they'd do it.

If yours "isn't professional quality" wtf is inXile's?

 

[hiver]

Fallout 1 and 2 were perfectly manageable without minimap.

I know they were menagable.
So we either dont need it at all, or it doesnt serve any function at all as it is.

- and i dont think an aerial video is the way to go either, like some other mini maps in Ui screenshots were showing.
Unless rangers have drones with video surveillance.


Also:

 

[dunno lah]

Not professional quality or anything but still along the lines of how I wish they'd do it.

If yours "isn't professional quality" wtf is inXile's?

Popamole Quality ofc.

 

[tuluse]

Alright, I went ahead and started over for the hell of it to see if I could make a better one. Not professional quality or anything but still along the lines of how I wish they'd do it. Background is from Stasis artist.

You dropped the faded Dessert Ranger star, I liked that

 

[Kem0sabe]

I agree that they might as well remove it, i never used the pipboy map and saw it as pointless.

Regarding another point, the "area map", one option would be a hand drawn map that would fill out as you explored a zone, which you could annotate and had a simple "X" to mark your position, but that would be a zone map, not a minimap.

Something like a bit more polished version of this

Would add some realism to how a ranger party would map out a town with points of interest if they didn't have previous cartography to work with.

 

[hiver]

yeah, except of course, done on a material that is 1. durable 2. waterproofed, 3. easily wiped clean or drawn over.

but still, if we go for a usability over realism, however exactly map works can take a back seat to presentation and that needs to be better. if its there at all.

 

[toro]

I also think it'd be nice to offer an option for a "classic-style UI" where it's just a single bar at the bottom of the screen (so something like Phantasmal mocked up), we're discussing that now (on a Sunday! Heh). If you keep the same functionality/buttons and it's essentially a paintover it could be doable. We're looking into that, though no promises yet, it'll depend on time/cost etc. More just saying, the feedback has been followed and is of interest.

Please.

 

[toro]

Im looking at that mini map, on all screenshots, and it says exactly piss nothing about what it is supposed to show.

With the exception of the not implemented yet Mini Map and some placeholder sounds and portraits, this demo shows you what you can expect to see in Wasteland 2.

That mini-map never worked. Is just a placeholder ... so, stop staring into the abyss.

Edit: By the way, the second quote was from inXile press release.

 

[hiver]

So... i was right? again?

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[Stabwound]

They should have never promised to have a customizable UI. It can only lead to abominations like they're showing, and having everything separate looks awful. Most of the mockups here look infinitely better than the diarrhea they've put out. Just put it in a solid, noncustomizeable bar and leave it that way.

 

[toro]

So... i was right? again?

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I don't think you understand the meaning of the world 'placeholder'.

 

[St. Toxic]

I don't think you understand the meaning of the world 'placeholder'.

You mean this isn't the real world? When is that coming out?

 

[hiver]

what a dumbass...

 

[Jackalope]

There's something I really don't get...
They are making the UI customizable, right? Then why not make the elements simple rectangular shapes that can fit together like Legos? Why have these odd shapes with dangling cables and print paper? Why all the dead space and clashing stuff? Don't people just want a simple, clean UI that's functional?

 

[Excidium]

There's something I really don't get...
They are making the UI customizable, right? Then why not make the elements simple rectangular shapes that can fit together like Legos? Why have these odd shapes with dangling cables and print paper? Why all the dead space and clashing stuff? Don't people just want a simple, clean UI that's functional?

Haven't you seen their inventory? They simply cannot into UI design

 

[Jackalope]

There's something I really don't get...
They are making the UI customizable, right? Then why not make the elements simple rectangular shapes that can fit together like Legos? Why have these odd shapes with dangling cables and print paper? Why all the dead space and clashing stuff? Don't people just want a simple, clean UI that's functional?

Haven't you seen their inventory? They simply cannot into UI design

What do you mean?

*one Google search later for Wasteland 2 inventory*

OH MY DEAR LORD!!! What on Earth are they doing???

 

[Infinitron]

Don't people just want a simple, clean UI that's functional?

No, inXile don't.

People keep assuming this is some kind of fuckup on inXile's part, but they know exactly what they're doing. It just happens to be not what the Codex wants.