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hiver

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I didnt play JA myself, so i cant speak in detail about it. So if any of you who did want to add about its details and mechanics, feel free.
I already had one or two posters adding a bit about it in "Turn based combat" thread, but its better if more people add a post or two.

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Yeah, i was just reading it. Guess it was deleted... but i didnt even manage to read that last bit whole, although i agree with BN in what i managed to catch.
 
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http://wasteland.inxile-entertainment.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=248&start=350#p8763

I don't think I can stress enough how short a 12 month development cycle (with 6 months of pre-production) is for a massive and difficult project like a computer game. And for a multi-platform game that targets both Linux and OS X? It might actually be more likely to be finished if they don't get 1.5 million.

One word: Stonekeep. Need I say more?

Fight the good fight, geezer.

:bravo:


Jeeze I hope they find a good TB RPG engine that is ready to use. Coding and scripting an RPG in that short a time, would be impossible.
 

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I didnt play JA myself, so i cant speak in detail about it. So if any of you who did want to add about its details and mechanics, feel free.
I already had one or two posters adding a bit about it in "Turn based combat" thread, but its better if more people add a post or two.

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Yeah, i was just reading it. Guess it was deleted... but i didnt even manage to read that last bit whole, although i agree with BN in what i managed to catch.
Wasn't the Codex policy to retardo threads but never delete anything? What changed?
 

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Wasn't the Codex policy to retardo threads but never delete anything? What changed?
I guess the grey eminence Brother None was displeased with our behavior and used his connections to bypass the official rules.
 

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People clamouring for JA2 style combat need to quit it with that shit. A large part of Wasteland's charm was the fact it recreated a pen & paper experience with remarkable fidelity, and that included a combat system suitable for p&p. If WL2 is to be a true sequel and not a pointless sack of shit it needs to retain that aspect. Just say no to systems that would be clunky around a table with friends.

Personally I'd like to see a highly abstracted system along the lines of classic Trav's range bands or FATE3's zone system (esp Diaspora's rendering of same), although the latter wouldn't translate well (ie. at all) to a CRPG.

EDIT: fast turn based is an eminently sensible option. Animations off, overview screen that summarises what happened that round, equals fast with no loss of depth. Autoresolve for trash mobs is also an essential feature.
 

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Wasn't the Codex policy to retardo threads but never delete anything? What changed?
I guess the grey eminence Brother None was displeased with our behavior and used his connections to bypass the official rules.
We'll need an official confirmation for this. This would be a quite bad way for inXile to start this whole thing: having threads deleted on third-party sites because they don't agree with what people are saying.
 

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Wasn't the Codex policy to retardo threads but never delete anything? What changed?
I guess the grey eminence Brother None was displeased with our behavior and used his connections to bypass the official rules.
We'll need an official confirmation for this. This would be a quite bad way for inXile to start this whole thing: having threads deleted on third-party sites because they don't agree with what people are saying.

Indeed. Just starting to delete threads even without further notice would suck. Especially on the codex.
 
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Yeah, the "why not have JA2 combat?" stuff is dumb. It's a Wasteland sequel, not MY DREAM GAME WITH JA2 COMBAT, TORMENT DIALOGUE, ARCANUM SOUNDTRACK AND FALLOUT FREEDOM OH GOD ITS HEAVAN I DONATED FOR IT SO MAKE IT HAPPEN FARGOTH.


It was swallowed by the darkness...it's not even in Retardo. Unless one of the last few pages had a post threatening to kill Fargo's kids unless he adds JA2 combat to the game, I don't see the reason.

Then again, maybe it's just Jaesun with his thread-merging shenanigans.
 
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Well it's obvious it'll have turn based combat similar to Fallout. So JA2 combat is a valid argument. Of course they won't make it exactly as JA2, but if they want to improve Fallout like combat, they should look up to JA. Or is there something wrong with this argument?
 

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BN locked a tranny thread after visiting us. He even said it was stupid (or something similar). That's not how you handle things if you don't want to offend those whiny bitches who demand equal representation of sexual minorities in Wasteland 2. So all the evidence was erased, and the official reason for locking that thread says that we're just "too immature" to discuss such important topics ;)
 

hiver

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Its better that those threads are locked. There was no purpose to them anyway after first dozen pages.
But they could have just retarded codex thread...

Anyway, neither tactics or JA will go in as complete systems but apart from hoping they will make something even better and thus better to play, i hope they will take on at least some aspects of those systems.
So its good to talk about them.
And im pretty sure we are not going to twist anyone in inXile team to turn the whole game into tactical combat game and downgrade other aspects.

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well, good move by twinkie i think.
 
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I don't understand... The guy ridiculed in his video "vampire romances" and all "major stuff" current gen "rpgs" have and still there is a large demand for that kind of stuff on Wasteland forums. I don't get it. Haven't those people watch his video before pledging? Hopefully he won't cater to that "audience". Man I want good gameplay, interesting locations to explore, good c&c and dialogue, I don't want stupid romances and shit. Every current game has it, why don't they go play them instead and leave us with a glimmer of hope, that we too, can play something we like... I mean, I can't tolerate "romances" like in Fallout 2, which are very low key, and completely optional, but still I prefer Fallout 1 with much less silly shit. Hopefully he knows what he's doing.
 

Morkar Left

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Since when can user delete their threads and most importantly why can they do that? Codex starts to alienate me...
 

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