Warhammer Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader - turn-based Warhammer 40k RPG from Owlcat Games - now with Void Shadows DLC

[AwesomeButton]

I avoided broken characters like Argenta and Cassia and Heinrix, still game becomes super easy by Act 3.

You've heard of crowd control, now check out how we do it in WH40K! We present to you Cassia, a walking WMD

 

[Pathfinder: WoTR]

You've heard of crowd control, now check out how we do it in WH40K! We present to you Cassia, a walking WMD

Teenage mutant space princess being stronger than a tech priest magos and a literal space marine combat-wise is pretty funny. Although it might be lore-accurate, considering how rare and powerful the navigators are supposed to be.

 

[KeAShizuku]

I'm still amazed that apparently no-one at Owlcat played their own game after a certain point, the problems are so evident that a child could point them out. HP bloat, free health refills and unskippable invincibility are the standard bandaids of terrible game design and Rogue Trader drinks deeply of each and every one instead of doing, well, combat encounter design.

All three of their games seem to not have been finished production-wise, or qa-wise.

Once-bigshot RPG developer Obsidian also released its KS project in a state of "first-draft writing, without an editing pass" in 2015. And that was acceptable. I blame the audiences.

Well personally this kind of business strategy just makes me pick up the game after 2-3 years on a sale. When all the DLC and patches are out.

 

[Tyranicon]

You've heard of crowd control, now check out how we do it in WH40K! We present to you Cassia, a walking WMD

Teenage mutant space princess being stronger than a tech priest magos and a literal space marine combat-wise is pretty funny. Although it might be lore-accurate, considering how rare and powerful the navigators are supposed to be.

In the lore Navigators are so rare and valuable that nobody would put in them harm's way except in the most dire of circumstances, so we don't know how strong they would be in combat.

They do have that warp-eye instakill thing, but I wouldn't expect most navigators to have extensive combat training.

Rogue Trader (both the pnp and this) takes a lot of Star Trek logic since there's very little reason to put your command staff in an away team rather than a specialized unit of house guard, battle psykers, tech priests, etc.

 

[Desiderius]

even though I think it goes a bit too often into grimderp (aka grim stupidity, especially for Eldars).

I thought this was by design (WH40K not being 100% serious)?

Some fans deny this because they can't deal with WH40K being an inside joke from the beginning, but basically yes

All millennial shit is joking/not joking because they can’t handle the merely real, then they pat themselves on the back like chucklefucks if somebody tries to ride the bike without their training wheels.

Hope this helps.

I don't understand millennial or zoomer talk, can you decode what you said kid, and translate it to something normal people understand?

Don't sell yourself short.

(All-knowing -> Know nothing pivot is a variation of the same thing)

If you talked like that in real life to people too, I would be surprised if nobody has punched you in the face yet

Who said they didn’t?

You phaggots are afraid to take a punch too. But usually it’s just about giving your friends shit.

 

[KeAShizuku]

You've heard of crowd control, now check out how we do it in WH40K! We present to you Cassia, a walking WMD

Teenage mutant space princess being stronger than a tech priest magos and a literal space marine combat-wise is pretty funny. Although it might be lore-accurate, considering how rare and powerful the navigators are supposed to be.

In the lore Navigators are so rare and valuable that nobody would put in them harm's way except in the most dire of circumstances, so we don't know how strong they would be in combat.

They do have that warp-eye instakill thing, but I wouldn't expect most navigators to have extensive combat training.

Rogue Trader (both the pnp and this) takes a lot of Star Trek logic since there's very little reason to put your command staff in an away team rather than a specialized unit of house guard, battle psykers, tech priests, etc.

I distinctly recall that Picard was never allowed to go on away missions because he was the captain.
But they did send out the rest of the bridge crew.
I kinda get it nobody wants to see a show with nobody red shirts.

 

[AwesomeButton]

I'm still amazed that apparently no-one at Owlcat played their own game after a certain point, the problems are so evident that a child could point them out. HP bloat, free health refills and unskippable invincibility are the standard bandaids of terrible game design and Rogue Trader drinks deeply of each and every one instead of doing, well, combat encounter design.

All three of their games seem to not have been finished production-wise, or qa-wise.

Once-bigshot RPG developer Obsidian also released its KS project in a state of "first-draft writing, without an editing pass" in 2015. And that was acceptable. I blame the audiences.

Well personally this kind of business strategy just makes me pick up the game after 2-3 years on a sale. When all the DLC and patches are out.

That's what I've been doing. And I've yet to play any one of them to the end.

 

[AwesomeButton]

BTW have you noticed that the Empire eagle is horizontally flipped everywhere, at least on the voidship? The left eagle head has an eye, and the the more detailed talons, where it should be the right head. Sounds like heresy to me!

 

[Mei Scarlet]

I simply don't use either Cassia or any officer in my current playthrough.
It's still piss easy on hard.
But it's a bit more fun, I press more buttons and battles are longer.
Not sure if that's the huge rebalance patch effect, last time I played the game was on release with my officer wife Cassia in my party 24\7.

 

[Infinitron]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2186680/view/4453590835015975297

Update 1.2.1.26 is live!
Lord Captains! We are deploying a minor update to address some Void Shadows quest issues and give the players a bit more time to catch their breath after Act III before triggering the Void Shadows Act IV content.

Note that https://steamcommunity.com/app/2186680/discussions/0/4027970580228219058/ always contains up-to-date information on known issues and the roadmap of upcoming patches.

Watch out for the possible spoilers below!

Patch Notes

• In rare circumstances, it was possible to get Kibellah’s second quest in Act II rather than Act IV. It was fixed, but the fix will only be retroactive if you haven’t yet talked with Kibellah about the
  
  . Otherwise you’ll need to load a game before this conversation for the quest to trigger properly in Act IV instead.
• Multiple quests and dialogues had a minor chance to break if a warp event popped up while they were active - fixed;
• The
  
  event from the Void Shadows DLC now begins later in Act IV, to let the player catch their breath and level up a bit after returning from
  
  .

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Second dlc was delayed to Spring 2025

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Second dlc was delayed to Spring 2025

Stay strong, brothers. Spring will come.

 

[Harthwain]

Second dlc was delayed to Spring 2025

Stay strong, brothers. Spring will come.

Spoiler

 

[ga♥]

In the lore Navigators are so rare and valuable that nobody would put in them harm's way except in the most dire of circumstances, so we don't know how strong they would be in combat.

They do have that warp-eye instakill thing, but I wouldn't expect most navigators to have extensive combat training.

Rogue Trader (both the pnp and this) takes a lot of Star Trek logic since there's very little reason to put your command staff in an away team rather than a specialized unit of house guard, battle psykers, tech priests, etc.

Original Rogue Trader campaign had a navigator companion.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Meh, the standalone patch installer is not on GOG yet.

 

[Cryomancer]

Any detail if the second DLC will implement Telekynesis?

 

[ArchAngel]

Any detail if the second DLC will implement Telekynesis?

Are WH40k's Judge Dredds famous for using it?

 

[Havoc]

In the lore Navigators are so rare and valuable that nobody would put in them harm's way except in the most dire of circumstances, so we don't know how strong they would be in combat.

They do have that warp-eye instakill thing, but I wouldn't expect most navigators to have extensive combat training.

Rogue Trader (both the pnp and this) takes a lot of Star Trek logic since there's very little reason to put your command staff in an away team rather than a specialized unit of house guard, battle psykers, tech priests, etc.

Original Rogue Trader campaign had a navigator companion.

Rogue Trader RPG allows you to play as a navigator. (And they are as OP as Cassia is or even more)

 

[AwesomeButton]

Heh, when you dock at Footfall, there are enginseers singing around the local Adeptus Mechanicus' shuttle. One of them sings in binary code. Translated into letters, the binary says "Spirit": 010100110111000001101001011100100110100101110100

 

[AwesomeButton]

I have to share a couple of notes about the writing. Without being impressive on its own merits, apart from being videogame writing, it underscores how much worse are Obsidian's games written. At least RT leaves me wondering about its characters, I can't immediately predict the structure of a quest, or which branch will lead to what outcome. The comparison really brings to light how once-quality RPG developer Obsidian has fallen into formulaic cookie cutter design patterns.

 

[Pathfinder: WoTR]

I have to share a couple of notes about the writing. Without being impressive on its own merits, apart from being videogame writing, it underscores how much worse are Obsidian's games written. At least RT leaves me wondering about its characters, I can't immediately predict the structure of a quest, or which branch will lead to what outcome. The comparison really brings to light how once-quality RPG developer Obsidian has fallen into formulaic cookie cutter design patterns.

The writing is super inconsistent, ranging from pure cringe when it tries to be serious to actually entertaining when it tries to be grimderp monty python-style satire.

 

[AwesomeButton]

The Anvers are bad because they are bad. Genius. Suck it Josh, with your postmodernistic hand-wringing.

 

[Space Satan]

The Anvers are bad because they are bad. Genius. Suck it Josh, with your postmodernistic hand-wringing.

I think you are not familiar with staple warhammer lore cultists or real-world haitians?

 

[Harthwain]

The Anvers are bad because they are bad. Genius. Suck it Josh, with your postmodernistic hand-wringing.

They're just

Spoiler

your regular rebels who got subverted by the powers of Chaos. It is that simple.

 

[Barbarian]

So should I play this now or wait? I have learned to wait 1 or 2 years before buying and playing owlcuck games.

Also how is the woke in this? Can't imagine much wokery in warhammer but have to ask.