Warhammer Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Saravan]

This is another standard defence mechanism prevalent among retards like yourself. If you have played WotR and dislike it, why would you play it? If you didn't play it and dislike the game, then you don't "know enough" to criticize it.

Okay, name a female character, other than a companion or Areelu Vorlesh that is successful in any meaningful capacity. Name 1 transvestite or minority character that is successful in any meaningful way. Name any man that isn't really successful other than any that are under the direct command of a woman.

I mean, you can call me retarded, but then if I ask you to thoroughly analyze what Baphomet's plan is, you're going to start really thinking, and then you might look real awkward with all those retarded ratings dished out.

Like... you have to imagine that I'm not shy to go back and rate all your dumbfuckery as it should be, right? You are smart enough, because you're smarter than me, right... to realize that I'm baiting you.

I'm not going to participate in your retarded quiz for you to gauge whether I'm "allowed" to criticize the game. You already tried this shit a year ago in the Cringefinder compilation thread to which I categorically disproved your bullshit accusations by posting screens of completing the game.

Just face it, you seem absolutely allergic to questioning WotR by acting like some rabid fanboy.

I give absolutely zero fucks how you rate me, lmao imagine caring about this shit like a little child.

 

[The_Mask]

I'm not going to participate in your retarded quiz

That's because you know I'm right, and you now reek of butthurt.

I love you, bro. Why can't we get along?

 

[Saravan]

I'm not going to participate in your retarded quiz

That's because you know I'm right, and you now reek of butthurt.

I love you, bro. Why can't we get along?

Lmao the delusion.

 

[Delterius]

>i played the game seven times
>oh yeah what happens at the beginning
>i refuse to be interrogated

 

[The_Mask]

Lmao the delusion.

Answer my questions then.

 

[Desiderius]

Don't feed the troll.

Feed the faint traces of valid critiques.

The woke stuff does crowd out what would otherwise have been writing better integrated with the setting, gameplay, and meaningful character development. The female characters are especially one-dimensional and forced.

Stat buffs are too prominent and ultimately boring. Buffs should be about properly preparing for specific challenges and should come with difficult trade-offs. Abundant Casting + always good buffs are poor design. The same problem is even more glaring with the HoMM piece.

The Dispel minigame at least makes the game less trivial but that's a low bar, and it's only present in maybe 10% of encounters.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Okay, name a female character, other than a companion or Areelu Vorlesh that is successful in any meaningful capacity.

That's easy. Nocticula. She makes Baphomet her bitch and in most ends, she got a possitive outcome for her.

 

[The_Mask]

Don't feed the troll.

I can't wait for his interactions with the personality of someone like Pink Eye in 15 - 20 years, or so, and that person coming at him telling him WOTR is the best game ever because of "this and that". And the "this and that" would be my exact arguments. Imagine I'm still here and I can bring in the quotes? Imagine the butthurt?

 

[luj1]

8 pages for a game that
a) we know is going to be garbage on release
b) is going to be woke as fuck
c) will only appeal to autistic buildfags

d) is gonna be bloated with shit minigames

 

[Saravan]

>i played the game seven times
>oh yeah what happens at the beginning
>i refuse to be interrogated

I played the game once, never stated otherwise. I stopped giving a shit about the story after Wintersun and completely stopped bothering reading in the Abyss. For the past three pages we have been talking about the combat. Please tell me again how accounting for a successful tranny is relevant.

What's the matter, did you suddenly realize "just dispel lmao" isn't the great argument you thought it was?

 

[Delterius]

"just dispel lmao"

so why don't you just dispel again

hint there is a reason why you might not be able to do that

 

[The_Mask]

That's easy. Nocticula. She's makes Baphomet her bitch and in most ends, she got a possitive outcome for her.

Yeah, I was actually waiting for that answer, and I have a rebuttal:

- she loses crystals from her realm, which means that by the time she closes traffic, she has lost a significant amount of power
- she tries to cling to the protagonist, with more or less success, because she can't face anyone in 1 on 1 combat, really.

So, in the end, I feel she comes out mostly even, considering. But you know what... ? That would've been his best bet, and he didn't take it.

 

[luj1]

c) will only appeal to autistic buildfags

for buildporn there are far better games such as KotC 2, Wizardry 8, Underrail, NwN, even Dark Sun

dont be fooled by the 38385959 subclasses and archetypes, the differences are minor. Its quantity without quality.

 

[Delterius]

Yeah, I was actually waiting for that answer, and I have a rebuttal:

nonsense

the real rebuttal to nocticula is playing a trickster. but that just means her brother is a successful canonically genderfluid character.

 

[Saravan]

That's easy. Nocticula. She's makes Baphomet her bitch and in most ends, she got a possitive outcome for her.

Yeah, I was actually waiting for that answer, and I have a rebuttal:

- she loses crystals from her realm, which means that by the time she closes traffic, she has lost a significant amount of power
- she tries to cling to the protagonist, with more or less success, because she can't face anyone in 1 on 1 combat, really.

So, in the end, I feel she comes out mostly even, considering. But you know what... ? That would've been his best bet, and he didn't take it.

Yeah exactly my point. You were baiting for some standard answer so you could showcase your prominent knowledge about successful trannies. Problem is, it has zero relevance to the discussion at hand which was the combat.

What did you think you would achieve with this? That you are an expert on tranny lore?

 

[Cryomancer]

the differences are minor. Its quantity without quality.

Disagreed. Playing as a Cruoromancer and as an elemental specialist(cold) resulted in a complete different experience.

 

[The_Mask]

You were baiting for some standard answer so you could showcase your prominent knowledge about successful trannies.

Okay, I think you got me here, the creators of this setting never specifically say that she is a woman, because we're discussing aspects of a Demon Lord. But I'm looking at her wiki page and everywhere, and everyone seems to be using "she" and "her", and everyone seems to be reaching the consensus that this Demon Lord's favourite aspect is a female one.

Picture below.

Spoiler

But, you know what... you're right... Nocticula might be able to change gender at will, so... point for you.

Now... my counter-point would be that as an Outsider he/she doesn't count. Your move. :D

 

[jackofshadows]

This is all "fascinating" but personally I'm excited to see the reaction of DnD fans on this new apparantely non-DnD game. Unclouded perception and all that.

 

[Cryomancer]

If is WH40K, will have good spellcasting?

Played : Dark Sun : Shattered Lands/Wake of the Ravager, Ravenloft Strahd possession/Stone prophet, NWN1, NwN2, IWD, IWD2, Menzoberranzan, Dungeon hack, BG1/2/ToB, Eye of The beholder 1/2/3(…) PFKM, PFwotr, as an arcane caster. I have zero interest in playing with other type of class.

 

[Sarathiour]

Okay, name [anyone] other than Areelu Vorlesh that is successful in any meaningful capacity.

 

[Humbaba]

I mean even Areelu ultimately completely fails. Even in the endings where you don't kill her, she spends the rest of her life in a secluded shithole and dies.

 

[Delterius]

camellia is arguably successful at her sole desire to be helpful

 

[smaug]

Pathfinder was a dogshit game. The combat seemed similar to the amazing IWD/BG, but the transition to 3.5 E was terrible. Combat is completely braindead, and I couldn't get past more than a few hours of the terrible companions and bland setting. How anyone can enjoy Poncefinder: Cuckmaker, D:OS2, or even BG2, with their amusement park philosophy of game design I'll never understand.

Every IE game and it’s bastard successors are trash.

 

[Cryomancer]

https://www.twitch.tv/warhammer

Is this the stream? IDK if is conformed that is sjW40k from games wokeshop...

 

[Sarathiour]

You were baiting for some standard answer so you could showcase your prominent knowledge about successful trannies.

Okay, I think you got me here, the creators of this setting never specifically say that she is a woman, because we're discussing aspects of a Demon Lord. But I'm looking at her wiki page and everywhere, and everyone seems to be using "she" and "her", and everyone seems to be reaching the consensus that this Demon Lord's favourite aspect is a female one.

Picture below.

Spoiler

But, you know what... you're right... Nocticula might be able to change gender at will, so... point for you.

Now... my counter-point would be that as an Outsider he/she doesn't count. Your move. :D

By the way, what the fuck is the difference between an incubus and a succubus if everyone genitalia is liquid ?