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Warcraft III: Reforged - now with lowest user metacritic score of all time

InD_ImaginE

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Like SC2 Arcade, now all custom maps and custom models is automatically owned by Bllizzard per EULA.

And because of that you can't put copyrighted materials in the arcade anymore lol.

And now there is report button for maps because why the hell not.
 

Fedora Master

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It makes sense from a business perspective but there are... Nicer ways... To benefit from your modding community.
 

InD_ImaginE

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It makes sense from a business perspective but there are... Nicer ways... To benefit from your modding community.

Having your game to have a very active mod communities is already a profit enough. Active modding scenes like WC3 is rare. Especially for nearly 2 decades old game. THis is the kind of stuff that prolong your product lifecycle without you having to lift a fucking finger. Even if they just released a remaster ala AoE (support HD resolution, increase quality of the models so they works with HD resolution) it would already more than enough.

Of course Blizaard is buthurt that Dota pretty much becomes another people IP because the clause wasn't in the old EULA, but if you really want to make money you can always do partnership. Which they didn't with Dota.

Looks at Auto-chess. The moment it blew up on Dota 2 Arcade,companies are quickly moving to monetize them. Some try partnership with the original creator (Tencent wins), some makes copies with their own twist (TFT from Riot, Underlords for Valve after they lose to Tencent). Of course with whatever talent they have in Blizzard they are porbably incapable of negotiating or creating a working clones to begin with.
 

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Virgincraft vs Chad of Empires
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MRY

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They are adding checkpoints in the campaigns. Every major fight. So if you fail you can reload. IN AN RTS GAME.
I used this scenario as a reductio ad absurdum argument in an article I wrote years ago:

Saving and killing form a vicious cycle. The more the player saves, the more reasonable it seems to kill him. Small wonder that RPGs introduced a "quicksave" button to minimize the player's hassle. Smaller wonder still that the games have added the suggestion "Quicksave often - you could die at any time!" Can you imagine a sports game warning, "Quicksave often - the opponent might score!" or a strategy game suggesting, "Save before and after every battle to make sure your army never suffers defeat!"

And now we are reduced to such absurdity.
 

Zer0wing

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Natural conclusion of gaming devs who learned to code in javascript.
Natural conclusion to what was started in Battlefield 3 - starting the game and searching for servers from web browser.
I guess Mike Dawsons C++ books are still too hard for these learned to code shovelheads?
 

Lacrymas

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They are calling it a mess, though (except VG247, what's up with that), they just don't rate it. I'm not really sure why, it seems like a safe enough move considering the enormous backlash, but maybe I don't understand game journo politics and what their relationship to big companies actually looks like. They have to at least pretend they aren't being paid or aren't biased in some way. I'm also quite curious in a mischievous way what Blizzard are thinking right now. Who exactly are they blaming? I'm 99% sure it isn't themselves, so who is the culprit de jour?
 

deama

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Only way to play custom maps online now is via eurobattle.net, at least you can still play it, for now.
The eurobattle.net community hasn't been doing well these past years, mostly cause it's been infested with russians and most of the maps being hosted are dota 1 for some reason, hopefully this fiasco will up the population and re-ignite it.
 

TedNugent

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So, they're doing this to those of us that have classic CD keys and did not purchase Warcraft III: Retarded. Thanks for raping the game of my childhood all the way into my college years.



According to this poster on the Blizzard forums, you may be able to download the Public Test Realms client and enjoy the original game.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/w...classic-tft-now-everyone-come-read-d/16355/40

Link to PTR is here, per the Blizzard forum poster:

https://www.blizzard.com/en-us/lega...500a402ea/blizzard-end-user-license-agreement
 

Preben

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They are calling it a mess, though (except VG247, what's up with that), they just don't rate it. I'm not really sure why, it seems like a safe enough move considering the enormous backlash, but maybe I don't understand game journo politics and what their relationship to big companies actually looks like. They have to at least pretend they aren't being paid or aren't biased in some way. I'm also quite curious in a mischievous way what Blizzard are thinking right now. Who exactly are they blaming? I'm 99% sure it isn't themselves, so who is the culprit de jour?

Those "journalists" are seriously afraid to affect the metacritic score. In the video game industry an insane amount of things is nowadays pegged to the critic side of the metacritic score. This even includes bonuses paid to the developers and, most importantly, CEOs and other members of the management. By giving a bad review, you are risking pissing off some corporate asshats who may not get their bonus checks because of you. And corporate asshats also happen to be rather petty, vindictive and to have rather long memory. This may seriously affect how these people are later going to spend the advertisement budget for their future products. In a world where nobody buys news anymore and every outlet is sustained by ad money, this is a matter of life and death.

Plenty of apparently insane things that current gaming journos do make perfect sense once you realize this.
 

The_Mask

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Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I helped put crap in Monomyth
The previous major title that held the lowest score was Ghostbusters for XBOX. People have submitted positive reviews about it (lol) so its score would rise, so that Reforged could go at the very bottom.

And it worked.
 

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