RTS Warcraft I & II Remastered

[Gandalf]

Wait til you see what they've done with the Warcraft 3 icons:

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/warcraft3/t/updated-hd-classic-graphics/33264

This can't be real.

Judging from the screenshots... Warcraft 1 remaster look like a joke. It reminds me of something, but I'm not even sure what it is. A mobile game?

The battlefield of Warcraft 2 remaster looks OK, but I do dislike that they replaced rendered screens with painting style screens, like in this example:

 

[Lacrymas]

warcraft1 AI upscale. they dont even bother with making lower part of the body - its just a big black shadow. Archers holding xbow with one arm. Or Grunts holding axe like a shopping cart.

Wait til you see what they've done with the Warcraft 3 icons:

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/warcraft3/t/updated-hd-classic-graphics/33264

This is honestly sickening and scandalous.

The Warcraft 1 remaster looks worse, WC2 seems like the same game with HD graphics but it already looked great, so zero out of two.

EDIT: IF, and that's a big IF, you can use the original graphics in WC1 AND it has Battle.net integration and automatic matchmaking so you can play PvP easily then maybe it's worth it ON SALE. Same for WC2.

 

[Lacrymas]

I checked, there's no ladder and you can't play PvP in WC1, so Blizzard disappoint once again and these remasters can safely be chucked in the trash bin where they belong.

 

[Brancaleone]

Wait til you see what they've done with the Warcraft 3 icons:

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/warcraft3/t/updated-hd-classic-graphics/33264

Judging from the screenshots... Warcraft 1 remaster look like a joke. It reminds me of something, but I'm not even sure what it is. A mobile game?

My thoughts exactly, looks like a cheapo mobile game. With straight upscaling, even if done well, you end up with a lot of flat colour areas devoid of details, which makes the sprites/backgrounds look simplified and streamlined compared with the pixelated original. In order to offset this you'd have to add new detail to the upscaled sprite, but that is a lot of extra work, and it requires some artistic talent.

Additionally, is it just me or they screwed up the perspective of the buildings in Warcraft 1 Remastered?

 

[Lagi]

there is (was) quite promising war1gus as warcraft 1 remake.

-bigger view port
- more unit selectable
- more orders (patrol, explore, hold fire for catapults, salvage of townhalls)
- better balanced economy (multiple townhalls, lower gold income, more wood requirment)
- footman and grunt were a useful unit. Cost effective even in late game (core unit as per manual)
- random skirmish maps
- multiplayer
- food supply display on UI top bar, or pop up tooltips for each button.
- neutral units and structures (brigand hut, windmill, swamp pond)
- more unique projectiles (for spiders, necrolite's, conjurers)
- effect of spells on units are no longer square rectangles, but actually animated effect of Unholy Armor or invisibility.
- more skills (posion for scorpion, slow web for spiders)
- blood splash effect
- wounded state spritesheet
- towers (new defensive structures)
- some new upgrades (catapults were slow, but you could make them faster)
- new unit (sorceress: with freeze, and ice shield)
- there was even attempt to spice up dungeon maps. Exit from dungeons was a wood source. Worker leave the dungeon and come back with wood.



NO - below is not a blizz shit cash grab, its a War1Gus gameplay. The Youtuber just titled the game Remaster.



but after the original developer abandon it, it went into more and more buggy and prone to CTD mess, with every Stratagus engine update. (there is auto compiler on webpage: but i wouldnt be supripse if War1gus-portable-3.3.3.exe would not even launch)

https://github.com/Wargus/war1gus
https://github.com/Wargus/war1gus/releases/tag/master-builds

 

[Lyric Suite]

Judging from the screenshots... Warcraft 1 remaster look like a joke. It reminds me of something, but I'm not even sure what it is. A mobile game?

It's like when Shitdog attempted to redo the intro cinematic in BG1 lmao.

Sadly, there's propably gonna be retards who will love this AI upscaled slop.

 

[Gandalf]

Additionally, is it just me or they screwed up the perspective of the buildings in Warcraft 1 Remastered?

Yes, it looks different from the original.

 

[Nathir]

I wonder how many codexers will buy this.

 

[Lacrymas]

I wonder how many codexers will buy this.

Even 1 is too many.

 

[Lacrymas]

 

[Cyberarmy]

WC is was a pretty simple game for todays standarts, dunno why they remaster it. Maybe remake with new missions and gameplay but still not makes sense.

 

[Lacrymas]

Nah, WC1 is endlessly charming and you could've squeezed in a multiplayer match or two after the campaigns. You can't do that, however, because there's no multiplayer in the WC1 remaster and there's 0 balance changes in WC2, so bloodlusted ogres are king. They could've added more content too, but I think we've already established that these remasters are the lowest effort AI slop Blizzard could've possibly shat out.

 

[axx]

We played quite a bit of WC1 back in the day after finishing our computer classes. I still remember the cheats - pot of gold, lumberjack, eye of newt, iron forge, ...

 

[TalesfromtheCrypt]

The Starcraft Remaster from a few years ago clearly seemed like a labour of love and I am mostly happy with it. Looks like whatever remnants of ambition and quality standards existed back then at Blizzard are completely gone now.

 

[RobotSquirrel]

The changes to WC1 are so upsetting to me. Thanks for reminding me of how trash everything has become since the Dos era Blizzard. sigh.

 

[Harthwain]

Judging from the screenshots... Warcraft 1 remaster look like a joke. It reminds me of something, but I'm not even sure what it is. A mobile game?

The colours of units are too saturated and they get way too bulky compared to their pixel art counterparts.

The battlefield of Warcraft 2 remaster looks OK, but I do dislike that they replaced rendered screens with painting style screens, like in this example:

Eh, I can see why they did that - the painted screen is much more clear and detailed, while still keeping the original setup of the 3D screen.

 

[d1r]

Warcraft 1 looks like a mobile game now! You do have smartphones, don't you?

 

[Thalstarion]

I would've liked a grittier art style. It's definitely too bright and colourful.

 

[d1r]

Oh this is some class A AI clown world shit:

Remember the water elementals?

Whatever AI they used to upscale this shit interpreted the water elemental as a demon:

You literally can not make this shit up anymore.

 

[catfood]

It's nu-Blizzard quality, what did you expect?

 

[racofer]

It's nu-Blizzard quality, what did you expect?

 

[Gandalf]

It's nu-Blizzard quality, what did you expect?

2017? That's old news. The leadership has changed and things like World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth, World of Warcraft Classic, Warcraft III: Reforged, World of Warcraft: Shadowlands, World of Warcraft: Burning Crusade Classic, Diablo II: Resurrected, Diablo Immortal, World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King Classic, Overwatch 2, World of Warcraft: Dragonflight, Diablo IV, Warcraft Rumble, World of Warcraft: Cataclysm Classic, World of Warcraft: The War Within, Diablo IV: Vessel of Hatred happend since Starcraft's Remastered initial release.

 

[ghardy]

Oh this is some class A AI clown world shit:

Remember the water elementals?
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Whatever AI they used to upscale this shit interpreted the water elemental as a demon:View attachment 57640
You literally can not make this shit up anymore.

The boobs... They're gone...

 

[Seethe]

It's nu-Blizzard quality, what did you expect?

It's not even Blizzard's hand here. They outsource all of these remasters, and so if something's good it means it's a luck of the draw. That's why Diablo 2 remaster is decent overall but you simultaneously end up with the above garbage and reforged. They're not here to make games anymore, just to milk the brand they've established. Same as Bethesda.

 

[Lacrymas]

What do Blizzard actually develop if everything is outsourced or recycled? D4 and the new retail WoW expansions?