Grand Strategy Victoria 3

[whydoibother]

That's called "building levels" in their language, and no. This is in effect setting a percentage of the output to be produced using one production method and another percentage in another? I think it would make sense to have it, esp. in cases where you have all your production of a good concentrated in the same state, which is to say in one "building".

Oh, right. I just internalized it as having 10 factories in that city, rather than having a level 10 factory in the city (and it being impossible to have more than 1 per city).
But when playing a state other than the Great Powers, often you want to concentrate some buildings, and you DON'T want to switch production all at once, because it might crash your economy. Or society, if you suddenly fire 10000 labourers and need to hire 2000 machinists, that may or may not exist at the time.

 

[Konjad]

This is one case where the only way to avoid retardation is not to play.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

This is one case where the only way to avoid retardation is not to play.

Paradox enjoyment and masochism go hand in hand))

 

[Fedora Master]

This is one case where the only way to avoid retardation is not to play.

That's fair.
The fundamentals are still bad and all you do is stare at the shitty building queue. Journal entries and flavor aren't going to save this mess.

e: PDX are also simply BAD CODERS

 

[AwesomeButton]

The fundamentals are still bad and all you do is stare at the shitty building queue. Journal entries and flavor aren't going to save this mess.

Fair point, but remind me what was so exciting in Vic2 please?

 

[AwesomeButton]

While Paradox are picking their asses, there are mods like this already out:



Inspiring if you ask me. And guess what, it doesn't have to cost 30 EUR to be good. It doesn't have to cost anything at all.

 

[darkpatriot]

Have any of the updates or DLCs fixed the problem that the core gameplay was managing a single build queue?

Or is that still the core gameplay of this game?

 

[Hace El Oso]

While Paradox are picking their asses, there are mods like this already out:



Inspiring if you ask me. And guess what, it doesn't have to cost 30 EUR to be good. It doesn't have to cost anything at all.

I can’t believe that New Zealanders have come to truly believe their government tourism campaigns that it’s a Polynesian country. Australia-New Zealand Meme Pack.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Have any of the updates or DLCs fixed the problem that the core gameplay was managing a single build queue?

Or is that still the core gameplay of this game?

From my experience with 1.7, it's possible to raise your sight from the building queue and start dealing with expansion, provided you play as a great power. As a GP eventually you can reach a high enough amount of construction sector points, AND also enact laissez faire, which in combination allow you to stop caring about the construction queue and leave price imbalances to the AI to take care of. Then you can move on to map painting through colonisation and wars, and undermining other GPs by diplomatic means.

Any difficulty lies, as usual, in the chance of overextending yourself. At least for me, without house rules and historical RP the game loses my interest.

If you are the type of player who just wants to see how high he can drive GDP by 1936 without collapsing into revolutions, then it's the building queue for you, and cheese like taking all the gold producing provinces, enacting multiculturalism and importing pops from China to work in your country. This sounds abhorrent but to each their own.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Gameplay loop is just not fun imho. And the game design taken as a whole seems to be more oriented towards bringing in the Anno & co. crowd.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Gameplay loop is just not fun imho. And the game design taken as a whole seems to be more oriented towards bringing in the Anno & co. crowd.

It's early access, the country content and the balance aren't there. Mechanics like combat resolution on land and at sea are not developed to a minimum amount of detail to attract the player's attention. Destroyed ships are "rebuilt" after combat is over, lolwwut?!

 

[what am i doing]

The fundamentals are still bad and all you do is stare at the shitty building queue. Journal entries and flavor aren't going to save this mess.

Fair point, but remind me what was so exciting in Vic2 please?

Watching the population mapmode hatching change as I enacted ethnic cleansing decisions and got to see the visual feedback of unaccepted cultures disappearing and my country gradually becoming more pure.

Which V3 is of course missing because they ditched the hatching effect and made tiles mono-coloured.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Translate this into English if possible.

 

[what am i doing]

Genocide, man. It's just better in Victoria 2.

 

[Fedora Master]

Genocide, man. It's just better in Victoria 2.

I don't think ethnic cleansings are even possible. Assimilation and Conversion does barely anything.

 

[what am i doing]

Genocide, man. It's just better in Victoria 2.

I don't think ethnic cleansings are even possible. Assimilation and Conversion does barely anything.

I mean you need mods for it of course, but it shows up way better on the map than in V3, which doesn't have any hatching to show pop culture ratios and just colours tiles with the majority.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Genocide, man. It's just better in Victoria 2.

Ah, I didn't get what that hatching was about.

 

[AwesomeButton]

You have to appreciate gold exchanges like this one:

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...not-for-problem-reports.1694727/post-29760999

Wait... can you... avoid the opium war by deleting all ports as Qing? Britain needs a treaty port for the opium war entry to fail, no?

This should in theory switch Britain to 'okay, I'll just conquer bits of China then' but I'll be honest and say I haven't tested that piece of AI in a long time so I might have to make adjustments in future updates. Not going to worry too much about exploits though, you can also just always use the console if that's your inclination.

 

[Fedora Master]

There's a prominent loading screen showing an arctic expedition. Can you even DO those in Vic3?
Germany has a journal entry for a Himalaya expedition which is impossible to do because you can't place an Interest there.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

There's a prominent loading screen showing an arctic expedition. Can you even DO those in Vic3?
Germany has a journal entry for a Himalaya expedition which is impossible to do because you can't place an Interest there.

 

[AwesomeButton]

There is a decision "antarctica_expedition", though hot air baloons in Antarctica, I don't know... Also journal entry "je_tibet_expedition".

I also assumed it's in the Arctic circle, because of the ship being mast and sails.

 

[Fedora Master]

There's a prominent loading screen showing an arctic expedition. Can you even DO those in Vic3?
Germany has a journal entry for a Himalaya expedition which is impossible to do because you can't place an Interest there.

That tech seems utterly unrelated to exploration.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Highlight of the latest hotfix:

• Aristocrats no longer starve due to Subsistence farms suddenly raising wages for peasants

Glorious.

 

[Fedora Master]

Played to 1912, Saxony into Germany. Game is still a shitshow, even if you can get some enjoyment out of the basic systems. The world is a complete mess, in an unfun way:

Powerblocs are also a waste of time. When I formed Germany (Click Button, Receive Wurst) I somehow got parts of Austria and a bunch of random minors as subjects. So I formed a bloc to replace the Zollverein and tried getting my neighbors in. It takes ages to gain enough points to invite anyone to your bloc. Austria was a rump state that consisted mainly of Hungary, yet even with decades to spare I couldn't get them to join peacefully. You also can't really do shit as a bloc leader anyway.

 

[whydoibother]

The world is a complete mess, in an unfun way:

Back when Egypt would regularly beat the Ottomans, the border gore in Anatolia was obscene. Random islands of Egypt with no ports or connection to each other.