Vapourware Unknown Realm: The Siege Perilous - an 8-bit RPG for PC and Commodore 64

[shilence]

This is true.

Back in 1985 Richard Garriott released Ultima IV after being little more than a year development. He outsourced the composing of the music and some of the art, but he handled the programming alone.

Back in 2012 Bruce showed the demo for Unknown Realms, "almost finished" in five years of development and collected money 1/4 of a million dollars for the last finishing touches. He also outsourced the music and some of the art but failed to deliver anything after 10 years of development

So yes, his tweet is kinda accurate - it neeeds 10x the time and money than it did in 1985 =)

 

[Morblot]

Lord British also had some work ethic back then, unlike these clowns.

Btw, did they pay the composer they hired?

 

[Eli_Havelock]

I didn't realize the Commodore 64 had advanced that much since 1985.

 

[Grauken]

Lord British also had some work ethic back then

Yeah, its easy to forget he was actually doing work at some time and not just coasting along on his fame

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

The game was basically done? So, this assclown and his harlot harlequin just keep collecting money because they have no real job?


Yeah, you ain't ever seeing this bitch finished. They'll keep scamming until everything dries up. Tbh, they haven't shown much at all.

IS A SCAM!

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Oh ho ho! I triggered the postergeist snatch so bad he has to "Cuck button" all my posts. He's so butthurt I laugh. That's hilarious.

He truly has his mouth firmly attached to Bruce's dick drinking up ectoplasm to stay even remotely rooted to the codex. Lol. Gotta luv triggering people... even the silent ones.

 

[shilence]

The game was basically done?

Depends how you understand the clues:

"Stirring Dragon Games was born in 2012, when Bruce showed an early version of the game engine to the C64 community at the Commodore Vegas Expo."
"Over the last few years we’ve been working on this project full-time to build the custom game engine and all the supporting technology necessary to make this game a reality."
"The game itself is currently in a pre-alpha state and nearing feature completion. The game world and locations are already designed, although names and such are subject to change. The bulk of the remaining development time on the game side will be spent finishing game levels, puzzles, NPC dialog, and the normal play-testing and bug fixing."
"At this stage, the game itself is already in pre-alpha and most of the major technology hurdles have already been cleared. "
"No project is risk free, but the good news is that any risks we foresee come from the “slight delay” column instead of the “failure to deliver” column."
"We're aware there's a possibility that having our expected delivery date in December (Dec 2017) may cause delays for some international backers due to holiday shipping volume. "

 

[shilence]

Stop verbally attacking Stirring Dragon Games for not delivering any updates. It is unacceptable

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Who's he directing that at? Wormwood?

 

[Kedar]

There's a Will Smith joke to be made here but I'm too dumb to make it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[MRY]

I don’t recall verbally attacking their development; I just said they should be more transparent about it. But I feel bad that this has apparently caused such unhappiness for them. World has enough woes in it; hate for a gamedev family to get down over something like this.

If they’re developing a game, god bless. They should let the backers know! If they’re not, they should move on and find a better joy in life than trolling on Twitter!

 

[Contagium]

I don’t recall verbally attacking their development; I just said they should be more transparent about it. But I feel bad that this has apparently caused such unhappiness for them. World has enough woes in it; hate for a gamedev family to get down over something like this.

If they’re developing a game, god bless. They should let the backers know! If they’re not, they should move on and find a better joy in life than trolling on Twitter!

This "developer" clearly needs to stay off social media for a bit. He and his wife get butthurt about anything negative said their way. Clearly this Twitter presence isn't helping them....maybe when they actually have something to show for it they can spend their time on Twitter. Is anyone feeling sorry for the situation THEY caused?

 

[adamantyr]

I don’t recall verbally attacking their development; I just said they should be more transparent about it. But I feel bad that this has apparently caused such unhappiness for them. World has enough woes in it; hate for a gamedev family to get down over something like this.

If they’re developing a game, god bless. They should let the backers know! If they’re not, they should move on and find a better joy in life than trolling on Twitter!

Even the suggestion of transparency is enough to get on the "enemy list". I wonder if they keep theirs on a 5 1/4" floppy like Sheldon Cooper.

I know I'm on that list too. I was a backer, and commented many times asking for development updates. At one point I mentioned how I updated people on my tech blog as to the state of my game, and I was rudely told that "hobby projects" are different from commercial ones. Shortly after I released my own vintage CRPG (That I spent 15 years on) to Steam, I was abruptly refunded with no explanation. I had never asked for a refund.

As someone who completed their passion project, I certainly hope Bruce can do so.

 

[Viata]

I don’t recall verbally attacking their development

Come on, this is coming from the very dev that complained about someone posting "backer-only" updates.
Also, this was the post they are commenting about:

their twitter is absolutely useless. youd never know they were even making a game. Youd think it was some company trying to sell their coffee mugs

If it makes you feel better, they've locked their Twitter: https://twitter.com/stirringdragon

At this point, I think I'd probably be happier to learn this was a straight-out scam like Confederate Express and they're currently squatting in someone's California vacation home fighting eviction...

Nice...from the person developer (Wormwood Studios) who "says supporting other independent game projects is an integral part of their development mission"...

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[Infinitron]

I don’t recall verbally attacking their development; I just said they should be more transparent about it. But I feel bad that this has apparently caused such unhappiness for them. World has enough woes in it; hate for a gamedev family to get down over something like this.

If they’re developing a game, god bless. They should let the backers know! If they’re not, they should move on and find a better joy in life than trolling on Twitter!

Even the suggestion of transparency is enough to get on the "enemy list". I wonder if they keep theirs on a 5 1/4" floppy like Sheldon Cooper.

I know I'm on that list too. I was a backer, and commented many times asking for development updates. At one point I mentioned how I updated people on my tech blog as to the state of my game, and I was rudely told that "hobby projects" are different from commercial ones. Shortly after I released my own vintage CRPG (That I spent 15 years on) to Steam, I was abruptly refunded with no explanation. I had never asked for a refund.

As someone who completed their passion project, I certainly hope Bruce can do so.

I think they may have been referring to your game here: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...-and-commodore-64.112538/page-16#post-7838615 ("becomes a commercial flop")

These people seem to be textbook narcissists. It's a very pathological situation when you have a married couple who are like this, because they fuel each other's worst impulses.

 

[adamantyr]

I think they may have been referring to your game here: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...-and-commodore-64.112538/page-16#post-7838615 ("becomes a commercial flop")

These people seem to be textbook narcissists. It's a very pathological situation when you have a married couple who are like this, because they feed each other's worst impulses.

I wondered if that was the case! A flop by who's standards, I wonder?

 

[MRY]

I don’t recall verbally attacking their development

Come on, this is coming from the very dev that complained about someone posting "backer-only" updates.
Also, this was the post they are commenting about:

their twitter is absolutely useless. youd never know they were even making a game. Youd think it was some company trying to sell their coffee mugs

If it makes you feel better, they've locked their Twitter: https://twitter.com/stirringdragon

At this point, I think I'd probably be happier to learn this was a straight-out scam like Confederate Express and they're currently squatting in someone's California vacation home fighting eviction...

Nice...from the person developer (Wormwood Studios) who "says supporting other independent game projects is an integral part of their development mission"...

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Yeah, but what does that have to do with their dev process? It's more their PR/marketing.

 

[Viata]

I have no idea. Just posted it so people can see that the dev, once again, is full of shit.

 

[Eli_Havelock]

This "developer" clearly needs to stay off social media for a bit. He and his wife get butthurt about anything negative said their way. Clearly this Twitter presence isn't helping them....maybe when they actually have something to show for it they can spend their time on Twitter. Is anyone feeling sorry for the situation THEY caused?

For a couple who enjoy social media, they don't seem too concerned about the Comment to Like ratio on the last "updates" of their "game".

When your legion of "behind the scenes support" from 1,246 backers can't even break 40 likes in 2 years...

 

[Viata]

January 16, 2020.

 

[Contagium]

This "developer" clearly needs to stay off social media for a bit. He and his wife get butthurt about anything negative said their way. Clearly this Twitter presence isn't helping them....maybe when they actually have something to show for it they can spend their time on Twitter. Is anyone feeling sorry for the situation THEY caused?

For a couple who enjoy social media, they don't seem too concerned about the Comment to Like ratio on the last "updates" of their "game".

When your legion of "behind the scenes support" from 1,246 backers can't even break 40 likes in 2 years...

"This brings us a lot of hope and we want to thank each person that has taken the time to let us know they are with us and excited about the game".

I'll go out on a limb and say the majority of us WERE excited for this game. I know I was completely fucking ecstatic about it when I first heard of it eons ago. Just like anything, though, lies and deception can only string along the hardiest of fanboys for so fucking long. There are tons of other idie devs who deserve our time and money before these clowns.

 

[Viata]

I'll go out on a limb and say the majority of us WERE excited for this game.

Just look at the first few pages:

65K goal is a tad odd.... But backed. This is just too interesting not too. It's like I am a little kid again.

Backed, and sprung for the Collector's Edition (C64). :D
First time pledging for a Kickstarter, hopefully I don't get burned on this one!

This is insane! This game is doing much better than some RPGs with modern 3d graphics. Looks like easily available Unity3d, Unreal etc really devalued meaning of 3d graphics

Anyway I'm really glad this funded and to such a high level.

Biggest «Best game that nobody will actually talk about» contender.

Sometimes I wonder how it is that RPGs (especially crowdfunded and/or indie ones) are still getting made at all.

When even on an enthusast forum like this, the people interested enough to follow the game's thread end up writing stuff like "they didn't say what I wanted to hear", "I'll buy this at 50% off", "I'm tempted to back this game", where do their backers come from?
Guess we owe one to the non-monocled crowd out there that just pops into their wallet and puts some money down instead of engaging in a lenghy analysis coming to the foregone conclusion "ALMOST a game I'd back".

This is a game.

 

[Eli_Havelock]

Just look at the first few pages:

And then... updates to JollyDisk™ actually happened.

 

[Saduj]

They could resolve the main complaint people are making by investing a half hour a month in posting a brief backer update with some screen shots. They will never address why they won't do this because their refusal simply defies all logic. So instead they disingenuously whine and play the victim. When people are so blatantly dishonest, it betrays a real contempt for the rest of humanity on their part. Nobody with a shred of respect for the average human being would expect anyone to buy this nonsense.

 

[Viata]

It's pretty obvious they are not working on the game at this point. Mostly because they could just release updates, since there is no reason at all to not do that. They spend most of their time on twitter talking about being a developer, because talking is easier than doing.