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KickStarter Underworld Ascendant is a disaster

Invictus

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Looking at Rattower’s Monomyth and how a one man developed game is shaping up as the true spiritual successor of the Ultima Underworld and Arx Fatalis games that this pos game never even in a million years could become... by far the worst game (that was actually released) of the Kickstarter games
 
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Any day now the physical rewards that I paid for will arrive. I can feeling in my bones.
Your optimism is admirable, that's all I can say to this.

Now do you want the physical rewards knowing the build quality of the game? You will end up with arts and crafts products of a just graduated high school class that Paul Neurath contracted after he met them on their school field trip to the bottle shop, where he coincidentally was contracted to enter the bottle shop for them in exchange for their labor on the physical rewars of Ascendant.
 

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Looking at Rattower’s Monomyth and how a one man developed game is shaping up as the true spiritual successor of the Ultima Underworld and Arx Fatalis games that this pos game never even in a million years could become... by far the worst game (that was actually released) of the Kickstarter games

It's even worse than the vaporware releases that will never come.
 

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Any day now the physical rewards that I paid for will arrive. I can feeling in my bones.
Your optimism is admirable, that's all I can say to this.

Now do you want the physical rewards knowing the build quality of the game? You will end up with arts and crafts products of a just graduated high school class that Paul Neurath contracted after he met them on their school field trip to the bottle shop, where he coincidentally was contracted to enter the bottle shop for them in exchange for their labor on the physical rewars of Ascendant.

I want the physical box so I can complete an 'Ode to shit-tier nostalgia KS failures' video.

At my cottage I have an antique claw foot bathtub that I have repurposed as a fire pit. My intention is to film and release an artistic wilderness ritual burning of unopened UA and T:TON physical rewards.

:shredder:
 

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I've started playing it recently. I think for the short demo it is quite decent and fun. The only problem is that this is not a demo, this is full game. And we will never get the real thing. Clearly they faced some serious problems during development, and never had a chance to finish it.
 

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You'd think it would be as simple as giving money to talent. Unfortunately, kickstarter really proves that it's rarely as simple as that. There's just too much grifting involved and playing on the nostalgia of well-meaning people who grew up with the games the kickstarters promise to capture the feelings of. This ruins it for a lot of the others on kickstarter who are in a position where they have aspirations and would just like a way to work a little bit longer on them without having to return to the grind. There are a lot of people like that, but stuff like Underworld Ascendent paints it all in a bad light. Fuck comfortable out of touch boomers like Warren Spector and Garriott for exploiting their fans.
 
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I think in the end the Kickstarter bubble burst because for all their “we want creative freedom” we all need someone to curb our enthusiasm and focus our projects into something feasible... that is why writers have publishers, actors have agents and businesses have accountants; you need someone ANYONE outside of the nostalgia bubble willing to crack the whip and bust some skulls to get things done
Creativity is nice and all but being able to deliver results is better for long term business
 

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I have the game but I just haven't fucked around with it. Maybe I'll watch some vids on it if any have come out lately. Can you finish it? Swore I read you just as well kill shit instead of alternate weird ways. I'd like a bigger monitor when fucking around with these types of games. Tired of small shit.

Will it work on my smart phone?
 

KeighnMcDeath

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I keep thinking of the authors back in the 80s and such like the guy who made Faerytale. What was his budget? Seems like it was mostly him doing everything. Sooooo what's the excuse for today?
 

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I just backed Underworld Ascendant on
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http://kck.st/1yH1wpv Should be an excellent production.
http://t.co/RTm0BBrePR?amp=1


Robert Sirotek could have steered this ship to a successful product launch.
 

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Zork was basically the first big adventure game and every adventure game afterward was basically riding one entry or another's coattails. Return to Zork even beat Myst to the punch of FMV adventure games. Its like complaining about Battlezone or Berzerk.
I think in the end the Kickstarter bubble burst because for all their “we want creative freedom” we all need someone to curb our enthusiasm and focus our projects into something feasible... that is why writers have publishers, actors have agents and businesses have accountants; you need someone ANYONE outside of the nostalgia bubble willing to crack the whip and bust some skulls to get things done
Creativity is nice and all but being able to deliver results is better for long term business
In these cases I feel like no one on the development team knew when to stop, which is a combination of what you're saying and awe of the nostalgia man.
And then there's cases like Jane Jensen, where even the best wasn't good enough, and Frederic Raynal, where the end result was just eh.
 

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Zork was basically the first big adventure game and every adventure game afterward was basically riding one entry or another's coattails. Return to Zork even beat Myst to the punch of FMV adventure games. Its like complaining about Battlezone or Berzerk.
I think in the end the Kickstarter bubble burst because for all their “we want creative freedom” we all need someone to curb our enthusiasm and focus our projects into something feasible... that is why writers have publishers, actors have agents and businesses have accountants; you need someone ANYONE outside of the nostalgia bubble willing to crack the whip and bust some skulls to get things done
Creativity is nice and all but being able to deliver results is better for long term business
In these cases I feel like no one on the development team knew when to stop, which is a combination of what you're saying and awe of the nostalgia man.
And then there's cases like Jane Jensen, where even the best wasn't good enough, and Frederic Raynal, where the end result was just eh.

I was just thinking about it beating Myst as I watched the trailers.
 

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Any day now the physical rewards that I paid for will arrive. I can feeling in my bones.
Your optimism is admirable, that's all I can say to this.

Now do you want the physical rewards knowing the build quality of the game? You will end up with arts and crafts products of a just graduated high school class that Paul Neurath contracted after he met them on their school field trip to the bottle shop, where he coincidentally was contracted to enter the bottle shop for them in exchange for their labor on the physical rewars of Ascendant.

I mean, if you want to stay optimistic, you could think that some day.. maybe.. eventually, if you wait long, long, long enough... this thing would become a game of the legends, like E.T. on Atari 2600. It could be worth a lot of money in the fut... bwah ah ah ah sorry I can't anymore.
 
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I mean, if you want to stay optimistic, you could think that some day.. maybe.. eventually, if you wait long, long, long enough... this thing would become a game of the legends, like E.T. on Atari 2600. It could be worth a lot of money in the fut... bwah ah ah ah sorry I can't anymore.

Now that you said that, it made me realise we should all hope they never deliver on those physical rewards for real. Imagine the amount of waste that will create.
 

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They keep delaying the physical rewards. I think they're hoping people will just sort of forget about them and then they won't have to ship them.

Though, I'm still curious about the plastic figures as I'm a miniatures enthusiast and they never actually showed what they would look like. They also said these would be hand painted and some of them got broken and had to be re-done, so I'm guessing this turned out to be another small money pit, in addition to the mess that was the actual game.
 

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