Turn-based combat mode in Deadfire

[Abu Antar]

most of the text is missing, but it's in game.

My old friend, Missing String. They should make a character with that name as an Easter egg.

 

[Lady_Error]

So let me get this straight, the TB combat system was included in the game data and somebody is working on making a mod out of it?

 

[Mustawd]

So let me get this straight, the TB combat system was included in the game data and somebody is working on making a mod out of it?

 

[Safav Hamon]

The changes:

• There's a new attribute called Initiative that replaces recovery speed
• Every character acts once per round in order of highest initiative. There's no RNG.
• Characters have one offensive action, one defensive action, and one movement action per turn
• Stride now determines total movement points
• Heavy armor lowers initiative and stride
• Action speed is calculated by intervals and not seconds

 

[rusty_shackleford]

So let me get this straight, the TB combat system was included in the game data and somebody is working on making a mod out of it?

Making a mod would be useless, just give them time to release it.

 

[HoboForEternity]

i hope they do it for pillars 1 too, now that would be a good reason to replay the entire series

 

[Junmarko]

Billy: "Nice job guys. Now get the games patched for co-op like those Belgians did. Will check back in six months."

InXile/Obsidian:

 

[jf8350143]

If this turns out to be real, I'll pre-order the next three games Obisidian made with season pass, whatever the games are. Even it's a multiplayer only online game where you have to play as Todd Howard playing Fallout 76.

Also Kingmaker is the game that really needs a turn based mod.

 

[Safav Hamon]

The hype is building

https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/a8kvj6/obsidian_may_have_accidentally_leaked_plans_for_a/

 

[Kem0sabe]

Obsidian only did this because consoels, hence the console release delay, to fully implement it. How does it feel to get a feature like turn based combat just because it means more sales on consoles? Codex is not a learning animal, especially when it comes to their fetish developers.

 

[J_C]

I don't know why would anyone get excited about this. Deadfire was designed as a RTWP game, turning it into turn based will only result in terrible gameplay. Arcanum's combat suffered from allowing TB and real-time, and that game was designed that way from the very beginning. I can't even imagine the monstrosity which will result from this change.

 

[Kem0sabe]

I don't know why would anyone get excited about this. Deadfire was designed as a RTWP game, turning it into turn based will only result in terrible gameplay. Arcanum's combat suffered from allowing TB and real-time, and that game was designed that way from the very beginning. I can't even imagine the monstrosity which will result from this change.

True, the number of encounters and enemies in deadfire is not conductive to a fun TB experience. Unless the rebalance every map/encounter.

 

[Roguey]

I don't know why would anyone get excited about this. Deadfire was designed as a RTWP game, turning it into turn based will only result in terrible gameplay. Arcanum's combat suffered from allowing TB and real-time, and that game was designed that way from the very beginning. I can't even imagine the monstrosity which will result from this change.

Given that it doesn't have hordes and hordes of combat, I dunno, I think it can turn out all right.

 

[2house2fly]

Obsidian only did this because consoels, hence the console release delay, to fully implement it. How does it feel to get a feature like turn based combat just because it means more sales on consoles? Codex is not a learning animal, especially when it comes to their fetish developers.

if it's good then why does it matter why they did it?

 

[Quillon]

The hype is building

https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/a8kvj6/obsidian_may_have_accidentally_leaked_plans_for_a/

https://www.pcgamer.com/pillars-of-eternity-2-devs-accidentally-added-turn-based-combat-this-week/

 

[2house2fly]

If they never intended to patch in turn-based mode they're fucked now, lmao

 

[rusty_shackleford]

it would have been even worse PR to just have turn-based randomly appear in console builds and not on PC IMO

 

[Seethe]

I don't know why would anyone get excited about this. Deadfire was designed as a RTWP game, turning it into turn based will only result in terrible gameplay. Arcanum's combat suffered from allowing TB and real-time, and that game was designed that way from the very beginning. I can't even imagine the monstrosity which will result from this change.

Real time sucks in PoE 2 with the clusterfuck that happens as soon as you unpause for 2 seconds.

 

[Safav Hamon]

Characters have one offensive action, one defensive action, and one movement action per turn

Small correction: The new turn-based combat system uses action points.

A full diamond represents a standard action, half diamond secondary actions, and circles are free actions.

 

[Safav Hamon]

I'm guessing Dexterity will control AP, but I'm not sure it would mesh nicely with an Initiative attribute. Thoughts?

 

[Butter]

I'm guessing Dexterity will control AP, but I'm not sure it would mesh nicely with an Initiative attribute. Thoughts?

Dex influencing AP is fine. Initiative should just be a dice roll or determined by the encounter (e.g. if you get ambushed, all the enemies get to move first).

 

[Safav Hamon]

Deterministic initiative systems are better than RNG, especially in Deadfire's case.

It allows you to formulate strategies around initiative, instead of leaving it up to chance.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Deterministic is always better than RNG period.

 

[Ismaul]

Superior metric system.

 

[aweigh]

Considering everyone plays PoE games by mashing spacebar every 0.1 seconds, I think going turn-based will make fighting hordes of mobs faster if anything.