The Outer Worlds goes Epic Games Store-exclusive (also Windows Store)

[J_C]

the only logical option for them is to cut their take by half or something

And that would change nothing if Epic is still bribing devs for exclusivity. Their only chance would be to start paying for exclusives, but it seems even Valve knows that it is not good business practice.

 

[Quillon]

the only logical option for them is to cut their take by half or something

And that would change nothing if Epic is still bribing devs for exclusivity. Their only chance would be to start paying for exclusives, but it seems even Valve knows that it is not good business practice.

That would change everything, you can't buy especially bigger publishers with only bribes; Ubisoft wouldn't have passed on Steam's userbase if Steam's take were similar to Epic's, no matter the bribe.

 

[Infinitron]

Yes, it wouldn't change "nothing". The incentive for accepting an Epic bribe would be reduced. Epic would have to pay more to achieve the same outcome.

If you're worried about business practices, there are other things Valve could do besides paying in cash. Grant games more Steam front page visibility (extremely valuable), for example.

 

[J_C]

the only logical option for them is to cut their take by half or something

And that would change nothing if Epic is still bribing devs for exclusivity. Their only chance would be to start paying for exclusives, but it seems even Valve knows that it is not good business practice.

That would change everything, you can't buy especially bigger publishers with only bribes; Ubisoft wouldn't have passed on Steam's userbase if Steam's take were similar to Epic's, no matter the bribe.

Maybe it is true for Ubisoft and the other AAA devs, but devs like Gollop and Obsidian and all the middle to low tier devs were " bought" by epic.

 

[fantadomat]

A lot of retards in this thread. Steam is a shitty DRM but is leagues above epic when it comes to consumerism. EPIC is beyond bad and a fucking spyware. How stupid you have to be to defend a fucking malware on your pc?!

Hey goyz,i have that wonderful worm crawling in to my data files because they take smaller commission from game devs,am i not progressive and fair individual?! Also let me tell you about that thing i heard some authist on the internet,it is called competition,i have no idea what it is but if everyone is parroting it,then it must be true.


Why is there not a virus that kills dumb people thinking they are above average?!

 

[Quillon]

the only logical option for them is to cut their take by half or something

And that would change nothing if Epic is still bribing devs for exclusivity. Their only chance would be to start paying for exclusives, but it seems even Valve knows that it is not good business practice.

That would change everything, you can't buy especially bigger publishers with only bribes; Ubisoft wouldn't have passed on Steam's userbase if Steam's take were similar to Epic's, no matter the bribe.

Maybe it is true for Ubisoft and the other AAA devs, but devs like Gollop and Obsidian and all the middle to low tier devs were " bought" by epic.

Donno who Gollop is but Obs isn't middle, Obs is MS, they only bought TOW from PD.

And Steam also did the same thing(not the bribing) when they started the store, they said to devs/third parties that "MS & Sony take 45% of your profit, we'll only take 30%" and it began from there, alongside they saved PC gaming etc, nothing important :D

 

[pomenitul]

A lot of retards in this thread. Steam is a shitty DRM but is leagues above epic when it comes to consumerism. EPIC is beyond bad and a fucking spyware. How stupid you have to be to defend a fucking malware on your pc?!

Binary thinking is the bane of civilisation.

 

[Drakron]

Yes, it wouldn't change "nothing". The incentive for accepting an Epic bribe would be reduced. Epic would have to pay more to achieve the same outcome.

If you're worried about business practices, there are other things Valve could do besides paying in cash. Grant games more Steam front page visibility (extremely valuable), for example.

I think Valve is playing the waiting game as they are aware of the risks, this have happened before in a sense when EA pulled from Steam and Epic is playing a high risk game since if they fracture the digital store market what will happen is every major publisher will have their own exclusive store leave Epic having to payola Indies were more often then not, they would take a loss.

Of course Indies love a system were they can shit out any walking simulator and get payed but what is more likely to happen in the best/worst case is Steam dies and Indies go back to the '90s and we see a return of major controlling publishers ... oh and Epic could follow Valve into the grave as well.

 

[gongal]

Another piratebay exclusive?? Those devs are too generous!

 

[Reinhardt]

Of course Indies love a system were they can shit out any walking simulator and get payed

For some reason they think Epic will buy exclusive rights for their walking simulator but i doubt Epic are THAT stupid.

 

[HoboForEternity]

so how fucked is obsidian? feargus probably knew, the snake, but judging by them adding steam achievement, the devs knew around the same time as us. likely they won't get any say nor penny out of this.

 

[just]

feargus securing the future of obsidian after the future is secured

 

[axedice]

Jewfinitron is already doing damage control over at Obsidian Boards, calling us steam addicts for raging against exclusivity. Are you planning to jump to Obisidian/Microsoft Infinitron, similar to how Brother None got the inxile gig?

 

[vortex]

This Epic money goes to Sawyer to start making poe3. Think of it as kickstarter money for poe3.

 

[fantadomat]

Jewfinitron is already doing damage control over at Obsidian Boards, calling us steam addicts for raging against exclusivity. Are you planning to jump to Obisidian/Microsoft Infinitron, similar to how Brother None got the inxile gig?

Didn't know that mossad owned part of tencent.

 

[just]

now they have enough money to include whole gender spectrum in poe3

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

Jewfinitron is already doing damage control over at Obsidian Boards, calling us steam addicts for raging against exclusivity. Are you planning to jump to Obisidian/Microsoft Infinitron, similar to how Brother None got the inxile gig?

Lol, that rhetoric. He couldn't be more stereotypical oyveyer if he tried

I'm still 100% positive that the job offer will be posted directly to gaza strip any day now.

 

[Wesp5]

I think Valve is playing the waiting game as they are aware of the risks...

I hope that Valve is not in a position to do anything! The last game they published, Artifact, seems to have failed big time. Their Steam Machines initiative came to nothing, their VR investment might not work out as well. They haven't created a game themselves for years besides buying out or copying mods like CS, Portal, L4D and DOA. They seem to live great from selling hats and getting 30% due to their almost monopol position! They even tried to commercialize all mods to get a free share for everything anybody else makes without lifing their fingers. Luckily that failed as well, so maybe with the Epic Store getting more traction, they might decide to finally create some games again. Yes, Half-Life 3 confirmed !

 

[Prime Junta]

Why is there not a virus that kills dumb people thinking they are above average?!

Be careful of what you wish for, fam.

 

[Roguey]

Steam is a monopolistic parasite that takes 30% of every sale, yet you swear to defend it to your last torrent. Fucking sheep.

I don't care who gets paid what behind the scenes when Epic's client is objectively inferior.

It didn't even launch with an offline mode, which was completely unacceptable.

 

[Infinitron]

I think Valve is playing the waiting game as they are aware of the risks...

I hope that Valve is not in a position to do anything! The last game they published, Artifact, seems to have failed big time. Their Steam Machines initiative came to nothing, their VR investment might not work out as well. They haven't created a game themselves for years besides buying out or copying mods like CS, Portal, L4D and DOA. They seem to live great from selling hats and getting 30% due to their almost monopol position! They even tried to commercialize all mods to get a free share for everything anybody else makes without lifing their fingers. Luckily that failed as well, so maybe with the Epic Store getting more traction, they might decide to finally create some games again. Yes, Half-Life 3 confirmed !

Gabe Newell, who came from the culture of Microsoft, was so invested in the idea that the threat to Steam would come from hardware and operating system vendors that he was blindsided by the ambush from another game company.

 

[BlackAdderBG]

I think Valve is playing the waiting game as they are aware of the risks...

I hope that Valve is not in a position to do anything! The last game they published, Artifact, seems to have failed big time. Their Steam Machines initiative came to nothing, their VR investment might not work out as well. They haven't created a game themselves for years besides buying out or copying mods like CS, Portal, L4D and DOA. They seem to live great from selling hats and getting 30% due to their almost monopol position! They even tried to commercialize all mods to get a free share for everything anybody else makes without lifing their fingers. Luckily that failed as well, so maybe with the Epic Store getting more traction, they might decide to finally create some games again. Yes, Half-Life 3 confirmed !

I think it's possible that Gabe Newell, who came from the culture of Microsoft, was so invested in the idea that the threat to Steam would come from hardware and operating system vendors that he was blindsided by the ambush from another game company.

EGS is not a threat to Steam and could never have the ability to isolate Steam on a whim like MS/nvidia/Intel can.

 

[RapineDel]

The positive in this is because we know how it works, we know the implications if we pirate the game.

If I torrent the game, Epic Games pays for my copy thanks to the deal in place. This is great.

 

[Arnust]

Steam is a monopolistic parasite that takes 30% of every sale, yet you swear to defend it to your last torrent. Fucking sheep.

I don't care who gets paid what behind the scenes when Epic's client is objectively inferior.

It didn't even launch with an offline mode, which was completely unacceptable.

That image is also missing Steamworks which makes an online multiplayer structure way way easier to implement and most without dedicated servers use it, from Dark Souls to Vagante.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Steam is a monopolistic parasite that takes 30% of every sale, yet you swear to defend it to your last torrent. Fucking sheep.

I don't care who gets paid what behind the scenes when Epic's client is objectively inferior.

It didn't even launch with an offline mode, which was completely unacceptable.

you forgot the most important one: Linux support.
With Proton you can play windows games directly from Linux Steam now.

The amount of effort Valve has put into Linux(in the form of both Valve software support & actual open-source contributions) puts them head and shoulders above any other digital retailer.