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The Last Of Us 2 - now with protagonist-murdering trannies

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Since I totally don't care about power fantasies, honestly I think I might want to try a game that makes you play an antagonist, and I mean antagonist, not some relatable/likable antihero. Plain fucking antagonist - despicable, unlikable character. The kind of kin murdering backstabbing bastard, you actually turn into when you have a chance in say, CK2. Even more so, a story with no cathartic, overarching narrative like "revange is bad m'kay" preachy shit. No carebear happy end. Just an experimental game experience, like the MW2 airport, or the Vietcong arc in Vietcong 2. Obviously not a good idea for AAA audience, just a loose thought.
Is that what this is though. Judging from the leaked material the story sets the muscle girl up as being justified in her actions, from her perspective, because Joel killed her dad and destabilized her entire life. And the story seems to be very explicitly another "don't let revenge become an obsession and blind you to everything else blahblah."

If you want a game where you play as unrepentant asshole criminals with no catharsis then play Kane and Lynch.
 

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The REAl question is why we, over here on the PC Master Race side, should actually care about this aside from watching it burn for the drama and memes. Cuz really, a console-only third-person shooter? Eww....
Im here to watch this:

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Since I totally don't care about power fantasies, honestly I think I might want to try a game that makes you play an antagonist, and I mean antagonist, not some relatable/likable antihero. Plain fucking antagonist - despicable, unlikable character. The kind of kin murdering backstabbing bastard, you actually turn into when you have a chance in say, CK2. Even more so, a story with no cathartic, overarching narrative like "revange is bad m'kay" preachy shit. No carebear happy end. Just an experimental game experience, like the MW2 airport, or the Vietcong arc in Vietcong 2. Obviously not a good idea for AAA audience, just a loose thought.
I get what you mean, but Antagonist is the character that opposes Protagonist. If you play as a villain- he is a Protagonist and goody-two-shoes paladin opposing him will be an Antagonist.

There are tons of rpgs that allow you to become a total douchebag, and they all are boring as fuck when played that way. The only game where being pure evil filth is fun is Overlord.
 

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Also if you think Planescape is very deep or complicated, you are not in position to talk about stories, because you are probably retarded and anything beyond ''save world, chosen one'' overloads your brain.

Ahh the classic "To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Planescape. The story is...".

My point was exactly the opposite you pretentious clown, PST has a mediocre story but the fanbase pretends as if it's some sort of genius piece of art. How did you even get that message from my post, retard? The setting and visual style are the only good things about the game, and EVEN if the story was truly as good as they believe, it wouldn't justify struggling through 40+ hours of atrocious mind-numbing gameplay
 
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Also if you think Planescape is very deep or complicated, you are not in position to talk about stories, because you are probably retarded and anything beyond ''save world, chosen one'' overloads your brain.

Ahh the classic "To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Planescape. The story is...".

My point was exactly the opposite you pretentious clown, PST has a mediocre story but the fanbase pretends as if it's some sort of genius piece of art. How did you even get that message from my post, retard? The setting and visual style are the only good things about the game, and EVEN if the story was truly as good as they believe, it wouldn't justify struggling through 40+ hours of atrocious mind-numbing gameplay
You kinda prove my point about your retardedness. Planescape, as I said, is a simple story, but your limited brain views it as something pretentious, beyond it's comprehension. You can't even read my fucking post before commenting, anything story-driven that doesn't have voice acting and cutscenes is probably beyond your mental capabilities.
 

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Planescape has great writing, as far as video games go, which proves the point. You'll hardly find a game with better writing and games like Planescape are quite rare to boot.
 
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I think there's a difference between a supporting cast member getting wasted in the same game that she was introduced in, vs. the protagonist of the previous game being seen as callously and purposelessly killed off to be replaced by an apparently much less liked protagonist. The tranny allegation remains unproven, although I would be very surprised if steroids are not involved.

The REAl question is why we, over here on the PC Master Race side, should actually care about this aside from watching it burn for the drama and memes. Cuz really, a console-only third-person shooter? Eww....

ASIDE from watching drama?

The drama is best part dude.
 

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I get what you mean, but Antagonist is the character that opposes Protagonist. If you play as a villain- he is a Protagonist and goody-two-shoes paladin opposing him will be an Antagonist.
I thought fucking up Joel with a golf bat kind of qualified as such, being TLOU protagonist and all. But, yes, you are technically right.

There are tons of rpgs that allow you to become a total douchebag, and they all are boring as fuck when played that way. The only game where being pure evil filth is fun is Overlord.
Most RPGs handle "evil" very poorly, I know, I played most of them as such. Usually it''s either XP vs. money (BG, IWD), or "justforlulz" (VTMB, DeusEx). Overlord is a great game, but that's comedy evil, like Igthorn. I mean something more IRL, where evil doesn't really have any immediate gains or consequences and is more of an selfish egoism.
 
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I get what you mean, but Antagonist is the character that opposes Protagonist. If you play as a villain- he is a Protagonist and goody-two-shoes paladin opposing him will be an Antagonist.
I thought fucking up Joel with a golf bat kind of qualified as such, being TLOU protagonist and all. But, yes, you are technically right.

There are tons of rpgs that allow you to become a total douchebag, and they all are boring as fuck when played that way. The only game where being pure evil filth is fun is Overlord.
Most RPGs handle "evil" very poorly, I know, I played most of them as such. Usually it''s either XP vs. money (BG, IWD), or "justforlulz" (VTMB, DeusEx). Overlord is a great game, but that's comedy evil, like Igthorn. I mean something more IRL, where evil doesn't really have any immediate gains or consequences and is more of an selfish egoism.
In original God Of War, Kratos is one hell of an evil bastard, but it does preach about him being wrong in the end.

Tyranny is the only that fits your criteria, but it's not well written.

Game like this would be fresh. But TLOU2 ain't it, because Abby is avenging her father and later her people that Allie kills.
 
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I get what you mean, but Antagonist is the character that opposes Protagonist. If you play as a villain- he is a Protagonist and goody-two-shoes paladin opposing him will be an Antagonist.
I thought fucking up Joel with a golf bat kind of qualified as such, being TLOU protagonist and all. But, yes, you are technically right.

There are tons of rpgs that allow you to become a total douchebag, and they all are boring as fuck when played that way. The only game where being pure evil filth is fun is Overlord.
Most RPGs handle "evil" very poorly, I know, I played most of them as such. Usually it''s either XP vs. money (BG, IWD), or "justforlulz" (VTMB, DeusEx). Overlord is a great game, but that's comedy evil, like Igthorn. I mean something more IRL, where evil doesn't really have any immediate gains or consequences and is more of an selfish egoism.
Oh wait, Lisa:The Painful fits this quite well. Main hero is a selfish drug-addicated scumbag and you can roll with it or try to play him as less of a douchebag (which makes game infinitely harder).
 
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Is that what this is though. Judging from the leaked material the story sets the muscle girl up as being justified in her actions, from her perspective, because Joel killed her dad and destabilized her entire life. And the story seems to be very explicitly another "don't let revenge become an obsession and blind you to everything else blahblah."
yea but it makes for a shit story
nobody wants to play as the character who just killed the protagonist they spent hours playing as after waiting years for a sequel to play as said protagonist

worse than the mgs2 raiden bullshit
 
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Since I totally don't care about power fantasies, honestly I think I might want to try a game that makes you play an antagonist, and I mean antagonist, not some relatable/likable antihero. Plain fucking antagonist - despicable, unlikable character. The kind of kin murdering backstabbing bastard, you actually turn into when you have a chance in say, CK2. Even more so, a story with no cathartic, overarching narrative like "revange is bad m'kay" preachy shit. No carebear happy end. Just an experimental game experience, like the MW2 airport, or the Vietcong arc in Vietcong 2. Obviously not a good idea for AAA audience, just a loose thought.
Have you played Alpha Protocol?
Not quite that, but sort of like it.
 

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You kinda prove my point about your retardedness. Planescape, as I said, is a simple story, but your limited brain views it as something pretentious, beyond it's comprehension.

Yeah dude, you need high mental capabilities to understand the stories written for a videogame for 15 yo kids :lol:

You can't even read my fucking post before commenting, anything story-driven that doesn't have voice acting and cutscenes is probably beyond your mental capabilities.

The most gay shit I read today. Give me nice gameplay loop, entertaining tactical battles, quality leveldesign to encourage exploration and fuck off with VA, cutscenes, and other faggotry. Storyfags REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
 

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Basing your entire relation with games on their stories is as viable as basing it on gameplay

No because gameplay is the intrinsic quality that makes game, well you know games.

I'd be more inclined to look favorably at story fag games if it wasn't for the fact writing in games is complete and utter shit for like 99% of them.
but games with good gameplay are plentiful, amirite?

Much more so than games with good writing yeah.
That's a statistical inevitability since every game tries to have good gameplay, but not every game gives the same amount of care to the writing.
 

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Since I totally don't care about power fantasies, honestly I think I might want to try a game that makes you play an antagonist, and I mean antagonist, not some relatable/likable antihero. Plain fucking antagonist - despicable, unlikable character..
That is necessarily a power fantasy of its own, though, the one where you get to go mad with power. Because it doesn't work to go mad without power, that's just boring, no one listens to you.
 
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Strap Yourselves In Codex+ Now Streaming!
Watching this from the side lines and laughing my ass off. I had the good sense of never bothering with the first game after seeing this video a few years ago. Self important, obnoxious, greasy SJW cuck will make shitty SJW games, colour me surprised...

 

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The young girl, Ellie or whatever her name is, is she killed too?


EDIT: here is the plot, for others late to the party

The funniest thing about this whole controversy is anyone pretending that the first game was any good or not equally full of political messages and virtue signaling. A sequel being worse does not make the previous installment good.
 
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Is that what this is though. Judging from the leaked material the story sets the muscle girl up as being justified in her actions, from her perspective, because Joel killed her dad and destabilized her entire life.
So... Joel probably indirectly made her into transgender and now he/she wants revenge? What a twist!
 

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i don't understand... sullynathan, why do you defend sjw bullshit? and defend druckmann?

every post here critical of last of us 2 or of druckmann has a negative rating of some kind by you, sullynathan. why?
 

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i don't understand... sullynathan, why do you defend sjw bullshit? and defend druckmann?

every post here critical of last of us 2 or of druckmann has a negative rating of some kind by you, sullynathan. why?
It was funny when everyone was shitposting 10 pages ago, but now not so much. Especially when users would rather just go with the misinformation and ignore the clarifications that came afterwards..
 

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