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Kem0sabe

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The beta client patcher is not playing well with my new SSD. Even tho it's installed there and the drive has 40GB free space it still gives a warning that i need 60GB free space and refuses to launch...
 

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Or you might think "Hey! A site about RPG's! I like RPG's! I bet the people here are not racist, homophobic, mysogynistic, bathtub girl loving, jew hating transsexuals with too many issues to list at all! Let me sign up!"

I bet that's it in most cases.
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How did you know I have a mustache? Got the height all wrong though, and my penis should be dragging on the ground.

Edit: oic it was Kem0sabe who pre-ordered.
 

Shannow

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Or you might think "Hey! A site about RPG's! I like RPG's! I bet the people here are not racist, homophobic, mysogynistic, bathtub girl loving, jew hating transsexuals with too many issues to list at all! Let me sign up!"

I bet that's it in most cases.
Joining a community without first actually reading the stuff that's posted there for a while is like pre-ordering Bioware games.

(And little of what you list is not an issue if you ignore GD.)
 
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John_Blazze

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Joining a community without first actually reading the stuff that's posted there for a while is like pre-ordering Bioware games.

True... or maybe more like being an Alien fan and pre-ordering Aliens: Colonial Marines.
You still get fucked in the ass in the end anyway.

Oh yeah Angthoron the lack of shockporn links lately is alarming.
 

AW8

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So the KKKodex KKKonsensus seems to be that you should buy this game because it's PC only, and you'll help fight the decline.

OK.
 
Self-Ejected

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Well, at least one potential snag has been eliminated:

Our testing has now confirmed that millions of players from Europe (and beyond) can play on our North American server and experience ESO as it was designed—without latency or lag problems. (Please note that users in our last scale test had lag issues, especially in Cyrodiil, but this was a game bug, not a location issue – all players, no matter where, experienced that particular problem). So, regardless of a player’s location or the datacenter being used, the confirmed efficiency of our platform architecture will prevent anyone from enjoying a gameplay advantage. And as both datacenters become fully operational, we will continue to add capacity to meet the demands of gamers worldwide.

http://elderscrollsonline.com/en-uk/news/post/2014/03/14/eso-road-ahead

Is this the first Western MMO without latency?
 
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So the KKKodex KKKonsensus seems to be that you should buy this game because it's PC only, and you'll help fight the decline.

OK.

I don't know where you are getting that from. The vast majority of people in this thread have criticised the game in the strongest terms. The people who like it are in the minority.
 

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So the KKKodex KKKonsensus seems to be that you should buy this game because it's PC only, and you'll help fight the decline.

OK.

I don't know where you are getting that from. The vast majority of people in this thread have criticised the game in the strongest terms. The people who like it are in the minority.
It was just a dumb joke, highlighting the fact that the KKKodex almost ran out of tomatoes to throw at it last page, and then adding "but hey, it's at least PC-only right?" and of course even that is false with the console release shortly after PC launch. It's a highly declinist game, therefore you actually end up helping the decline by buying it.

More importantly, it was also an excuse to write "KKKodex KKKonsensus".
 

Cyberarmy

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This games quests are mess, most of them are buggy mostly because of not respawning quest mobs/items. Tried different classes and races from all sides and still got bugs. If starter areas are like this, middle/late game maps probably another Conan nightmare.
Also we "fell" under map while just wandering in villages/cities 2-3 times.

Edit: Just ignore this turd till it become F2P/B2P with %50 sale on steam.
 

Angthoron

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Well, at least one potential snag has been eliminated:

Our testing has now confirmed that millions of players from Europe (and beyond) can play on our North American server and experience ESO as it was designed—without latency or lag problems. (Please note that users in our last scale test had lag issues, especially in Cyrodiil, but this was a game bug, not a location issue – all players, no matter where, experienced that particular problem). So, regardless of a player’s location or the datacenter being used, the confirmed efficiency of our platform architecture will prevent anyone from enjoying a gameplay advantage. And as both datacenters become fully operational, we will continue to add capacity to meet the demands of gamers worldwide.

http://elderscrollsonline.com/en-uk/news/post/2014/03/14/eso-road-ahead

Is this the first Western MMO without latency?
It's so slow and boring that people confuse the slow-ass animation for the lack of lag.

That, or fall asleep.
 

Kem0sabe

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So, been playing the weekend beta test and i made up my mind to buy the game.

I enjoyed the heck out of playing a heal specced sorcerer, theres a lot of viable builds for each class, from robe wearing tanks to rogue leeching healers.

The content itself was quite fun quest wise, playing as dominion, lots do backstabing politics.

The dungeon i did was also quite enjoyable and fast paced.

Will be worth the free month at least, as with TOR, ill play the PvE story and then probably be done with it.
 

abija

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Our testing has now confirmed that millions of players from Europe (and beyond) can play on our North American server and experience ESO as it was designed—without latency or lag problems.
Does this mean the game has a > 300ms response time for each action?

So... box price + subscription, paranoid nda until after preorders, pc and console versions and now they refuse to invest in proper data centers too? If it walks like a cash grab and talks like a cash grab...
 

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Other than once more pointing out how specific people involved in specific companies/group/corporations should exercise some ethos and refrain from shitting on other peoples' work through virtual avatars..

again.. and again..
grow up and be professional in your line of work, like the rest of us are in ours?..seriously?..

I will say that having tried it out for a number of days, (press pass), i was actually pleasantly surprised..and perplexed; Do not comprehend the hate it is receiving from the mmorpg community. The Codex ok, i can understand. But if i had to judge it by mmo standards..

- it is huuuuuge.. even those infamous sarter areas that somehow appear to everyone but me tiny and oppressive in their lack of 'insert buzzword' are immense for mmo standards..doubly so if one considers they are mere tutorial placeholders. I spent over 3 days in the smallest of the three and still found myself discovering new things

- it is allowing for a hell of a lot of freedom, again mind you, for mmorpg standards..
. freedom in how you level, and since we love quoting isolated phrases here, let me expand and say freedom in how you level, in a level beyond that of the standard themepark if you are a PvE person, or PvP if you are that sort, as it has the closest to DAoC one can get today. Leveling included. Outside DAoC that is. Whoever decries this title as a hand holder is blind, unwilling, or uncaring to look around and experiment; In PvE? Suffice it to say i have not read or done a single quest ever since i left the starter isle. I just roam, gather, kill, craft, join dungeons, avoid NPCs and cutscenes. No consequences :)

. freedom in how you setup your toon, again, for mmorpg standards. You can actually gimp your toon. Yeap. For this community? In PvE? Unprecedented, lest like me, you have been around since quiiiite a while ago; Refreshingly deep for the genre. Now you wanna compare this to a GoldBox, fault lies at you, you shouldn't even -be- here, you shouldn't even have -had- an empirical experience to relate. (Unless being Codexian, you swear at certain devs, but own their CEs and a couple of Playstations)

- considerably deep, both in crafting (actual research, estimate of over 800 real time hours to top BS to mention one, mix and match of traits and bonuses, further improvements upon finished result, etc) and in skill development/gameplay. Whether for good or for worse, most of your choices you will not see at level1, looking over your skills page. They will open up a lot later on. I liked it, was a pleasant surprise. PR-wise..well, i can see why the ADD crowd would read it differently

- looks nice considering how light it is on resources. Extremely well-optimised, perfomance-wise. While on their own they mean fuck all to me, i do not complain having beautiful landscapes to run by or stare at while i chat with friends over Skype. Discreetly done too, no Oblivion level of Bloom, put it 'on' just for lolz, could barely discern it. As i said, well and sensitively done

- sound is good, for mmorpg standards. Not exceptional, which is rare and as such not somehting i dare expect, but no way near the lower level of most ---recent--- AAA titles. Only got the music turned off, and that solely due to my needing to listen to people through VC/

- PvP is good, has potential to become what they hype it to become..refrain from judging, too early. DAoC had us, we are nearing our forties now, or if younger like me, already well in our thirties. Barring that crows, the setting alone won't suffice, though an experienced MMO player can notice the infasctructure is there, the thoughts have been made. Why do i say i refrain then? The crowds.. people i mean kids think PvP and act zerg today, see GW2.. so even while the potential is there for something deeper, most morons will just run following the zerg line, forgoing everything else..so unless they direct these very masses ( through small and carot-like enticing mini adjustments) to change mentality, all the work they put will be for naught. Still, as i said, the work ---is--- there

- clean, tidy UI.. Everyone says console audience targetting.. i get the argument.. Personally? I do not see why i should feel insulted, if it works in my favour. Does it? Yes. Had 14 hotbars in DDO, lest i recall wrongly, 9 in EQ2. Have been fucking dying for someone to shave off the bull and allow me to look at the fuckin setting, the picture man, and not my fuckin UI. If it takes the consoletards and their compatibility issues to get me there? A-fucking-men, long as it finally happens. Never understood big bloated, screen hiding UIs, never will. Especially when they relate to real-time responses and what these entails, ie barely looking 'up'.

Negatives?

- Phasing. Bad notion all on its own, worse here..it's just badly conceived for the game's specific purposes, and badly implemented. Mind you, not bad by Maiandros's standards, bad even by mmo standards. Locks out people from your formed group, loses people even if it is the rare occasion it has actually included them, disallows common goals updating uniformly, punishes heal/support classes by not allowing them to progress along with their peers unless they stop being their class and start Pew Pewing like the worst of them. Bad bad bad, no excuse

- Balance. Balance. Balance. You want an all in, triple AAA title, with people like ex DAoC devs in your team, no fucking excuse for not having balance. Mind you, i am not talking about 5% OP in overall dmg or any of that shit, i am talking playing RPGs for about 20years and being able to see just how poorly thought, design level, some skills are. Bad bad bad, no excuse

- Bugs. But its an MMO, and in beta..they are running out of excuses this close to launch, but in mmos..you expect this

Conclusion?

A pleasant qualitative journey, long and considerably, noticeably deeper than most if not all of TODAY's mmorpgs. I will not cross genres just to make it look like shit in comparison. You want that, remove the MMORPG subtopic and shitpost in the CRPG threads. Above stands if you really are there for the journey..and let us be frank, the journey being long, entails being solo is something you enjoy..

If however you are there for the 'lore' and the 'questing'..and sadly such people exist, hoping to find intellectually engaging stories and concepts within MMOs...well you're shit out of luck even if you -do- have an IQ below 10. Phasing will destroy you. You will rage and quit, want to or not. If you came here thiking parsing, eleeeet and loots, the lack of balance will make you rage and quit. Even if unbalanced as it now is, everyone can still waste weeks of their time ---prior--- to its becoming a real issue. Unless you played WoW, raged and quit when someone 'nerfed' you unfairly in the course of one patch. You will rage and quit then, want to or not.

Now compare them last 2 paragraphs, and then consider the 'general' reaction in regards to ESO..any bells ringing? :)
 

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