The Elder Scrolls Online

[Necroscope]

That's the beauty of statistics in general, one will always find a reason to dismiss them. Nevertheless, I think it's obvious that Skyrim sell much better on consoles.

 

[theSavant]

At first I was put off by Elder Scrolls Online, remembering how boring MMORPGs are.
But then I was also put off by Elder Scrolls Offline, remembering how boring and generic it was.

Civil war in Skyrim: endless spawning of friends and foes until the time is up. A bad joke and not much difference to stupid MMORPG anymore. So thumbs up for TESO, but without me.

 

[Bubbles]

In the current version, the game becomes significantly more boring after level 12 or so, when progression slows to a crawl and all the remaining class skills are rubbish stuff like "put a puddle of lightning on the floor for 3 seconds" and a bunch of passives. I'm starting to suspect that the end game will either be everybody using the same general skills, or one class being played by 50% of the player base (by virtue of having actually useful high level skills).

 

[Kem0sabe]

i wonder how they will handle healing with this clunky UI and the fixed mouse. Maybe all heals will be AOE'S? It sounding more and more like the endgame will be another GW

 

[Angthoron]

The potential for clusterfuck in this one is way higher than in GW2, really. Whoever thought to not include any sort of proper aim assists, timers and other indicators of conditions, effects and hell, even health really, was a genius.

In the current version, the game becomes significantly more boring after level 12 or so

Holy shit and I thought gameplay at L3 was bad.

 

[Stereotypical Villain]

And the beautiful part is that you can't fix shitty core mechanics with patches, it pretty much requires that you scrap the entire game and start anew. I don't think Zionmax will be doing that.

 

[Kem0sabe]

So, how long do you guys figure it will be before it goes F2P? I'm thinking even faster than TOR, maybe 6 months.

 

[Bubbles]

The console launch will delay that, I think. They're going to gamble on record breaking launch day numbers on the 'soles to get them good PR while the PC version makes as few waves as possible.

 

[Kem0sabe]

If the PC version starts hemorrhaging players before they launch the console version and getting bad press all around, im seeing very troublesome launch for Zenimax.

The amount of butthurt flowing through the TESO reddit and forums is astonishing, i have never witness so much bad will in regard to an mmo before launch. This is usually the period where everything smells of roses and players are relatively immune to bad thoughts, but this game... its divisive to say the least.

 

[Bubbles]

Okay nevermind, they might be able to save this one yet:

Elder Scrolls Online receives unofficial Oculus Rift support

Developer Chris Gallizzi successfully implemented Oculus Rift support with Elder Scrolls Online, which is currently in closed beta, highlighted by test gameplay footage posted on YouTube.

The five-minute video illustrates the massively multiplayer online role-playing game's character creation system, navigating the environment and occasionally engaging an enemy in combat.

 

[Direwolf]

Considering that Oculus Rift is highly likely to be DOA, i doubt that it will help ESO much.

 

[Lhynn]

If the PC version starts hemorrhaging players before they launch the console version and getting bad press all around, im seeing very troublesome launch for Zenimax.

The amount of butthurt flowing through the TESO reddit and forums is astonishing, i have never witness so much bad will in regard to an mmo before launch. This is usually the period where everything smells of roses and players are relatively immune to bad thoughts, but this game... its divisive to say the least.

Like you didnt knew it was going to be the most retarded shit.

 

[Angthoron]

The amount of butthurt flowing through the TESO reddit and forums is astonishing, i have never witness so much bad will in regard to an mmo before launch. This is usually the period where everything smells of roses and players are relatively immune to bad thoughts, but this game... its divisive to say the least.

Any nice highlights to share with the bros?

 

[Commissar Draco]

If the PC version starts hemorrhaging players before they launch the console version and getting bad press all around, im seeing very troublesome launch for Zenimax.

The amount of butthurt flowing through the TESO reddit and forums is astonishing, i have never witness so much bad will in regard to an mmo before launch. This is usually the period where everything smells of roses and players are relatively immune to bad thoughts, but this game... its divisive to say the least.

Like you didnt knew it was going to be the most retarded shit.

from marginalized groups like was expected but this kind of massive consoltard peasants revolt might cut the flow of jewgold for which is entirely different and serious business for Zionmax... Still the tortanic fate can be averted by giving away pet gaur and horse armor for free though.

Also noticed that DU brought back the rattings, the ITZ End is near .

 

[Infinitron]

That's the beauty of statistics in general, one will always find a reason to dismiss them. Nevertheless, I think it's obvious that Skyrim sell much better on consoles.

Skyrim undoubtedly made most of its initial sales on console, but most of its "long tail" sales are probably on PC. By now that may even be as many as half of them.

Generally speaking, AAA game developers tend to underplay their sales on PC, for reasons which I don't fully understand.

 

[SuicideBunny]

Generally speaking, AAA game developers tend to underplay their sales on PC, for reasons which I don't fully understand.

i got the impression that aaa sales numbers tend to be units shipped to retailers which disregard direct distribution entirely, so obviously consoles would be over- and pc underplayed.

 

[markec]

That's the beauty of statistics in general, one will always find a reason to dismiss them. Nevertheless, I think it's obvious that Skyrim sell much better on consoles.

Skyrim undoubtedly made most of its initial sales on console, but most of its "long tail" sales are probably on PC. By now that may even be as many as half of them.

Generally speaking, AAA game developers tend to underplay their sales on PC, for reasons which I don't fully understand.

I think the problem is that shareholders/investors dont care about long term sales which are far bigger on PC then consoles and they value the game success o initial ones. Skyrim was made primarily for consoles and I think that strong PC sales kind of surprised Bethesda and I believe It did challenge their perception on PCs strength as market. We should also mention that with digital distribution being the biggest part of PC sales the profit margin is far better then on consoles.

The thing I dont understand is if you look at most popular games on PC recently you will see games like RUST, DayZ, Starbound, Minecraft and Skyrim, all those games have in common freedom they give the players. Yet there is no AAA developers that try to take part of that booming market, which is especially confusing with Bethesda having pretty much monopoly on this type of games on consoles and earning shit load of money.

 

[Echo Mirage]

The amount of butthurt flowing through the TESO reddit and forums is astonishing, i have never witness so much bad will in regard to an mmo before launch. This is usually the period where everything smells of roses and players are relatively immune to bad thoughts, but this game... its divisive to say the least.

Any nice highlights to share with the bros?

The only thing coming out of TESO reddit right now is one statement.

ESO is a single player MMO

 

[Decado]

I've been in the beta for a good long time now. The RPS review says it all:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/02/07/hands-on-the-first-few-hours-of-elder-scrolls-online/

 

[Captain Crusade]

I've been in the beta for a good long time now. The RPS review says it all:

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/02/07/hands-on-the-first-few-hours-of-elder-scrolls-online/

That's not a terribad review though. It describes all MMOs ever made, except for Meridian 59 and UO.

 

[dibens]

How is exploration? Does the game at least attempt to recreate the experience of wandering off the beaten path and stumbling upon some random dungeons, hidden abodes or quests?

 

[BlackAdderBG]

 

[Avellion]

To be fair, emotional investment is a big part of what keeps players in an mmo, but players should be invested in their characters, their friends, the community and the world. Not some poorly written NPCs. As usual Zenimax is doing it wrong.

 

[Angthoron]

How is exploration? Does the game at least attempt to recreate the experience of wandering off the beaten path and stumbling upon some random dungeons, hidden abodes or quests?

From the very limited experience that I had (busy weekend), not really. Some people were unable to find a cave with a quest compass though, so your mileage may vary, for some this may be some sort of a Magellan's journey.

 

[Cyberarmy]

To be fair, emotional investment is a big part of what keeps players in an mmo, but players should be invested in their characters, their friends, the community and the world. Not some poorly written NPCs. As usual Zenimax is doing it wrong.

Yup, I only played goddamn WoW for my bloody "hardcore" friends for years. At least they got bored after Lich King exapnsion
Had some real entertaining times with them fuckers, raiding alliance cities and all.