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The Codex's official opinion on VtM Bloodlines

Do you like Bloodlines?

  • Yes

    Votes: 8 80.0%
  • It's good for what it is

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • No

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • I haven't played it

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    10

Konjad

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Do you like it?

In my opinion it is one of the best cRPGs ever made, along with Fallout and PST. It's in my own personal Holy Trinity. While sinking in the sea of bugs it has outstanding dialogues (writing + dialogues + facial expressions), original and good setting (not another copy of D&D), great characters and awesome music, along with quests and graphic (esxpecially the art direction).





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Original setting , good atmosphere , crazy chick with double personality disorder what more can you ask for ?
 

CrimHead

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Yeaaaah...

Bloodlines soundtrack sucked.

The only good tune was the opening theme, and it's a blatant rip off of Massive Attack.

Everything else was p. fucking good though :thumbsup:
 
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Interesting that whilst Arcanum > Bloodlines in the public voting, Bloodlines has a much higher proportion of support in these ones. Early days yet, can't really tell given only 20 or so people have voted at the time of posting.
 

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Interesting that whilst Arcanum > Bloodlines in the public voting, Bloodlines has a much higher proportion of support in these ones. Early days yet, can't really tell given only 20 or so people have voted at the time of posting.

Arcanum is polarising(sp?), either you can deal with broken gameplay or not. While bloodlines fails at gameplay part too it`s still way above Arcanum so it`s not that "polarising", whatever.
 

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CrimHead said:
Yeaaaah...

Bloodlines soundtrack sucked.

The only good tune was the opening theme, and it's a blatant rip off of Massive Attack.

Everything else was p. fucking good though :thumbsup:
The Hollywood theme was cool, too.
 

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CrimHead said:
Yeaaaah...

Bloodlines soundtrack sucked.

The only good tune was the opening theme, and it's a blatant rip off of Massive Attack.

Everything else was p. fucking good though :thumbsup:

Yeah, Jeremy Soul should have made soundtrack for Bloodlines :thumbsup:


This made me listen to lacuna coil, also that is pretty cool too.
 

Multi-headed Cow

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I love love love Bloodlines. What the fuck is that shark though, I don't remember that.
 

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It's the quest Yukie (also on the pic) gives you in Chinatown. You need - along with her - kill that Hengeyokai.
 

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Konjad said:
It's the quest Yukie (also on the pic) gives you in Chinatown. You need - along with her - kill that Hengeyokai.

Why does that shit make me think of animu ? :M
 

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Original Setting? What?

Other than that could have been better but it's pretty playable. Has one or two cool characters here and there, some good writing (and some awful one), some pretty atmospheric moments (and some awful pop references), then it's back to awful dungeon crawling and awful combat and broken mechanics. Just another Troika game. Best of the bunch, but that isn't really saying a whole lot.

Also, it must have been one of the most pedestrian and boring adaptations of the world of darkness ever made, which is no small thing considering how awful some (most) of the spin offs and adaptations are. Finally, they give some obscure shark shapeshifter no one gives a damn about a cameo instead of a cool one? Screw you, Troika. You suck so bad at world of darkness it's not even funny.
 

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Felix said:
Konjad said:
It's the quest Yukie (also on the pic) gives you in Chinatown. You need - along with her - kill that Hengeyokai.

Why does that shit make me think of animu ? :M

Because it's supposed to. The game is full of references to modern culture. You can also say to Yukie something about tentacles after the fight.
 

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Original Setting? What?

Other than that could have been better but it's pretty playable. Has one or two cool characters here and there, some good writing (and some awful one), some pretty atmospheric moments (and some awful pop references), then it's back to awful dungeon crawling and awful combat and broken mechanics. Just another Troika game. Best of the bunch, but that isn't really saying a whole lot.
This is retarted.

Also, it must have been one of the most pedestrian and boring adaptations of the world of darkness ever made, which is no small thing considering how awful some (most) of the spin offs and adaptations are.
lolwut

Finally, they give some obscure shark shapeshifter no one gives a damn about a cameo instead of a cool one? Screw you, Troika. You suck so bad at world of darkness it's not even funny.
VTM is bad because it had a hengeyokai instead of a werewolf. Got it. Except that it had both hengeyokai and a werewolf. Plus an African elder vampire who turned into a monstrous bat-like creature. And a Tsimisce. And a hundred other boss fights, each of them unique and thrilling in its own way.

Fail.
 
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Felix said:
Konjad said:
It's the quest Yukie (also on the pic) gives you in Chinatown. You need - along with her - kill that Hengeyokai.

Why does that shit make me think of animu ? :M

Perhaps because it is a deliberate reference to animu, in the context of VtM's 'far-east' lore.

There's even a dialogue option after you kill the Hengeyokai where you say to Yukie 'you're just lucky that thing didn't have tentacles'.
 

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This is retarted.

Because you think Troika games are inherently good? That's a good argument.


That it is a bad adaptation of world of darkness, as anyone with any knowledge of the setting, beyond basic, can attest? Naturally, you are just defending it because it's made by Troika, not because you have any knowledge of it.

VTM is bad because it had a hengeyokai instead of a werewolf.

Were did i said that? I never said it was bad because of that, and i never said it was bad at all. It was more along the lines of good for what it is. I criticize, regardless, both an obscure and retarded crossover and a contrived and cliched one when given some events on the plot some other forces on the World of Darkness would have been much more in-theme and have actual reasons to become involved.

One random example: There's a film going around with pretty realistic fleshcrafted monsters torturing and eating people in a pretty gross setting and no one got a copy, said smells Nephandus, and came to investigate? Heh. Instead you'll have a bunch of MiBs and Euthanatoi, at the very least, possibly working together and fine combing hollywood (while probably running simulations back in their bases about the possible outcome of just laser cannon'ing the general area from orbit and report an asteroid did it, which is always plan B when it comes to possible Nephandus activity). And that's actually a pretty normal and in-character cameo to have on any plot regarding the Tzimisce somehow ignoring the masquerade, since the Tzimisce and the Nephandi have somehow matching, say, artistical tastes, similar minions, and in some cases similar modus operandi, and it follows the setting and the lore instead of just being some retarded anime joke/reference thrown in for the lulz.

Let's not talk about how contrived and uncomfortable the entire let's pull a werewolf out of our butts part actually is. Not to mention vampires openly using their disciplines to hunt you in a fucking city, just in front a bloody hospital and a bloody night club? Camarilla Vampires? Good one.

From a world of darkness perspective Bloodlines is awful and done for the lulz.

Except that it had both hengeyokai and a werewolf. Plus an African elder vampire who turned into a monstrous bat-like creature. And a Tsimisce. And a hundred other boss fights, each of them unique and thrilling in its own way.

So? If you think most of those unique and thrilling boss fights were really unique and thrilling you need to play more games. Also, by cameo i meant things alien to the basic setting of Vampire, to which the Nagloper belongs no less than the eastern kindred, as using them counts as crossover by World of Darkness standards. Also, Tzimisce as a unique boss fights? They are a dime a dozen, man, being one of the basic sabbat clans. The hengeyokai and the werewolf both do count as a crossoversih cameo and are both kind of stupid in the general plot, the others don't count as one to begin with since they belong to the particular sub-setting.
 

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Black Cat said:
Original Setting? What?

Other than that could have been better but it's pretty playable. Has one or two cool characters here and there, some good writing (and some awful one), some pretty atmospheric moments (and some awful pop references), then it's back to awful dungeon crawling and awful combat and broken mechanics. Just another Troika game. Best of the bunch, but that isn't really saying a whole lot.

Also, it must have been one of the most pedestrian and boring adaptations of the world of darkness ever made, which is no small thing considering how awful some (most) of the spin offs and adaptations are. Finally, they give some obscure shark shapeshifter no one gives a damn about a cameo instead of a cool one? Screw you, Troika. You suck so bad at world of darkness it's not even funny.
To be fair, a Rokea would likely be one of the only Were-creatures a lone-fledgling-vampire and a hunter can defeat. And even then it's not all that likely.

Granted, I could have a Settite that could do it. Awe, Eye's, Ghouled snakes with the eye's, hit him in the heart with a silver buckshot round. If he survives, have one of the ghouls, Awe, Eye's, hit him in heart again with the silver buckshot rounds. He's still alive, have another ghoul Awe, Eye's, then nother shot, by then he should be dead.

Settites are incredibly exploitable. Though really I'd probably use a Ravnos if I wanted to do it. At that point in the game you'd have enough XP to have purchased level 5 chimestry. Or as I like to call it, I can summon into your personal reality anything that I have seen. You are now facing 3 of yourself, with all of your abilities, all of which are naturally opposed to you. Have fun.
 

mydnight

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Definitely in my top 10 best rpg's ever. Has heaps of non-combat emphasis, interesting side-quests; setting itself refreshing for a WRPG.

Everything was great until after killing the werewolf. Then it becomes some kind of bioware grindfest.
 

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