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The Codexian Saga LP

wjw

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With the current information, we should go for A. And gain asap info about those xeno-dragons.
 

Cenobyte

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I'm following the general trend and also vote for a)

We should try to remain neutral at the moment, yet establish diplomatic relations with them. After we've gathered enough intelligence, which I also deem very important, we should rethink our stance towards them.
 

GarfunkeL

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A. Accept the treaty of friendship, but abstain from developing the relationship further in future.

We must not get sucked in to the other races wars before getting the full picture. While SPACE BEARS are probably more to our liking than arachnids and reptiles, we have only just recovered from the earlier war.

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taplonaplo

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Definetely option A

I don't like the idea of THEM offering an alliance to US, we should be the ones dragging others into trouble not the other way around.
 

praetor

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i agree with the fellow councilors: A is the only sensible option. we need more intelligence about the lizards and their war before we take further action
 

The Barbarian

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Option A smashes its opposition.

The update will be going live in a few hours.

The Barbarian would also like to thank all his wonderful fellow Codexians for making this exercise so enjoyable for him. Your speculation is fascinating reading. The fact that we have amassed some ~330 posts in little over three days says much.
 

The Barbarian

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Codexia goes forth!

The treaty of friendship with the Phyr was warmly welcomed by most sections of Codexian society. It presented this young and vibrant people with enormous opportunities. A new market was now open to Codexian traders, and enormous quantities of goods poured over the rapidly lengthening mutual border almost immediately. The Phyr, for their part, were courteous and cordial enough. They proved to be a temperamental, boisterous people – braggarts, in truth – with some very strange tendencies. One characteristic they shared with Codexians, however, was that they hated losing. And Codexian intel services suspected that their war with the Turanei was not going nearly as well as advertised, from the get-go. As such, the frequently dropped hints regarding a possible alliance between the two peoples were politely ignored by Codexian diplomats.

The ursine creatures exhibited a great deal of patience, at the beginning. But that palpably turned to disdain and then outright scorn over a period of some years. Accusations of cowardice and intransigence were liberally thrown around, even as trade continued to flourish, and we began to understand the space bears more thoroughly. They seemed to be growing desperate. The Raumen agitated against the Phyr influence in Codexian circles of power, casting some aspersions of their own against the six-limbed critters. It was a tangled web these aliens wove. Matters would come to a head soon enough, in any case. In 202AU, Codexian border vessels received a number of distress signals. Automated outposts and individual explorer vessels were being picked off by an unknown enemy. The Phyr pointed their stubby little fingers at the Turanei – and, sure enough, video logs of what seemed to be Turanei warnings recorded in Phyr and Raumeni languages were left at a number of attack sites.

The situation was growing dangerous. If the Turanei were aware of human entanglements with the Phyr, they might assume that the friend of their enemy is their enemy. Were they behind the attacks? Or was it some kind of Phyr scheme? Shortly after the incidents began to occur, Raumen diplomats informed the Codexian government that they had convincing evidence that this was all, in fact, part of a Phyr plot to draw the Codexians into the Turanei war. Trust was quickly becoming a premium quality. The Codexian people, upon learning of the attacks, began vehemently calling for a decisive response. As the situation continued to unfold, a very interesting offer was laid on the table by the Phyr.

‘The lizard scum attack you. They attack us. We fight them together. You... you get our stealth technology. Much glory. Great riches. Do you not want great riches? We friends. Lizards have no friends. They make only enemies. Be wise.’

It seemed a simple enough offer. But its even more surprising Raumeni counterpart bore other enticements:

‘The Phyr are no friends of yours, human-clan. They are no victims in this war. Many apologies for not telling you sooner, but Raumeni have many disagreements with Phyr. A shameful history. They chose war with Turanei. Stay out of this fight. If you do, we provide you with favourable trade terms. You will grow fat and opulent – our promise to you.’

Myriad options suddenly present themselves...

Do you... trust the Phyr, and mobilize for war against the extremist Turanei?

OR

Do you... trust the Raumen and merely strengthen your border defences against further attacks from any party?

OR

Do you... take matters into your own hands and try to determine the intentions of the Turanei directly?

OR

Do you... take this opportunity to sever your ties with these treacherous alien creatures? Codexia the Brave, Codexia Uber Alles!
 

treave

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Leaning towards confronting the Turanei ourselves, directly.

Hm... will make a decisive choice later.
 
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This is a most difficult choice to make.
Xeno scum, we should exterminate them all.
But that will be taken care of in due time.
The stealth technology certainly would be useful, but would we be able to win a war against the Turanei?
Whatever we do, we must ensure that we make it trough without major losses.

What reason could the Raumen have to want us not to partake in the war?

I will vote later, when other councillors had their say.
 

laclongquan

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The Raumeni make me suspicious. Why would they want the lizard scum victorious over the furry bear? Are they selling to both side of this conflict? Are they afraid that we will get this stealth tech? Are they the one behind the provocative attacks? Are they intended to sell us more weapons when this became 3sided war? Since the bears are between them and the lizard are they intended to consume half of bears?

If those attacks come from the bears, it's one thing. But if it's from the Raumeni, then why?

Curiousity and Suscipicion burn in me and I advocate:

Send a strongly escorted diplomatic expedition. Demand the bears provide us with safe conduct toward the lizard scum. Demand the lizard explain themselves to our satisfaction.
(if we can broker a peace between them, all the better)
 

GarfunkeL

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Situation is sticky and more information is needed. There are at least 2, possibly 3, different plans being schemed simultaneously and we need to get to the bottom of this. Thus, my vote is for

C. take matters into your own hands and try to determine the intentions of the Turanei directly
 

wjw

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When the stakes are this high, caution should be our friend.

We must make contact with the Turanei and learn all we can...
 

Jaedar

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The xenos have proven that they cannot be trusted, fellow codexians. We must see for ourselves what these lizards are capable off. The stealth tech is very tempting, but for all we know, the lizards have a means of nullifying it. And if the bears are losing, then joining them would be foolish.

C
 

Maria

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Did those turd-faring bears try to provoke a war between us and their enemies? If this information is true, wich it may very well not be, how about we declare war on the Phyr instead?

Or at least talk to the third party our selves.

C.

But I'd still like to declare war on the bears and take their tech later... or sooner, rather sooner.
 

Angthoron

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We have already made the mistake of attacking before talking, and it proved costly. I am very tempted to help our Phyrry friends as having the Veil technology for our own would give us an enormous edge over even the Raumen - and they are, after all, our friends.

However, we only have their word, and the Raumen word for it. Frankly I rather trust the Phyrries than the Raumen, the motives behind the bugs' actions are seeming suspicious. They are in fact trying to bribe us to stay out of conflict. Why? For what reason do they want this? For all we know, the anonymous attacks could have been staged by the Raumen to discredit the Phyrries!

I do not trust the bugs, Councillors. I do not fully trust our Phyrry friends either, and while their deal-sweetener is quite impressive, I feel we must take matters into our own hand and find out what is really going on. We've been played for blind, ignorant puppets long enough - we must know, and we must know now. If the Turanei can be reasoned with, we may broker peace between them and the Phyrries. If not... The foes of the Phyrries will know the fearsome power of the Wyrmhole.


...Oh, and Councillors, I would like to once more point out the suspicious behaviour of the Raumen. They hid this information and suddenly revealed it to us, offering clear and obvious bribes. Why? Should we have to go to war with the Turenei, we must prepare for a surprise attack from our dear friends as well.

C.
 

laclongquan

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If it's the bear then I am not too offended. When you are cornered it's hard to stay moral.

Now if it's the bugs then it's another story.

Still, let's wait until the expedition return before we decide drastic measure.
 
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After careful consideration and hearing my fellow councillors reasoning, I vote C.
It's a shame about the steath tech, but we cannot be played for fools any longer.
 

lightbane

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We must be wary and cautious, Brothers-Commanders, so I say C. We don't know all of the picture here, and we must not forget that the space bears are not human, and thus do not follow our logic. For all we know, this could be an elaborate trap to weaken ourselves so that a third party attacks! (like the cristalline xenos for example)...
 

Orgasm

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B.

But hey, there, democracy for you. Outvoted.
I urge the Storyteller to punish those "but I am smart and wanna find out who is at fault, like in a bioware quest" C option pussies.
 
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laclongquan said:
Nothing to say we cant acquire that later, by various number of means.
Let us hope we can, it would reinforce our superiority over the Raumen.
 

ghostdog

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Please fellow voters, let's not be butthurt.

C: Take matters into your own hands and try to determine the intentions of the Turanei directly.
 

Angthoron

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Orgasm said:
B.

But hey, there, democracy for you. Outvoted.
I urge the Storyteller to punish those "but I am smart and wanna find out who is at fault, like in a bioware quest" C option pussies.

The punishment on the obvious side is that Codexia doesn't receive either of the bribe bonuses. It's probably likely to chill the relations with both alien races (not much though, at least not on the Raumen side) as well. Not punishment enough yet?
 

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