IHaveHugeNick
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It's a dumbass concept and they're asking for absurd amount of money given how it looks. I don't know what they expected.
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KickStarter SWERY's The Good Life - cat lady simulator from Deadly Premonition creator
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The rare Fig to Kickstarter move:
He's also had a mini-meltdown on Twitter over fans asking about D4:
Ask about D4 and get blocked, seems legit.
I must admit though, the line "I think all my supporters must have needed a lot of courage to choose the 'purchase an extra sheep' option, without fully understanding how the game worked" is a classic. Any Codexers from Wales? <insert national stereotype joke here>
Ask about D4 and get blocked, seems legit.
I must admit though, the line "I think all my supporters must have needed a lot of courage to choose the 'purchase an extra sheep' option, without fully understanding how the game worked" is a classic. Any Codexers from Wales? <insert national stereotype joke here>
Prime Junta
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Hey weebs, is jRPG gameplay always and necessarily a repetitive grind? 'Cuz that's what stuck in my craw about the pitch, not the high-concept cat thingy or the fact that there was no violence or whatever. Walking around taking pictures to get moneys to upgrade your stuff so you can walk around taking more pictures ad infinity just sounds unappealing as fuck. Is this a SWERY thing, a jRPG thing, or just a thing with this particular pitch?
Asking because he doesn't address gameplay in his message at all.
Asking because he doesn't address gameplay in his message at all.
Yes, I have a degree of sympathy about the D4 thing. Seeing as I've just seen a post on the 'Agents of Mayhem' steam board suggesting Volition devs all deserve to get cancer as they made that instead of Saints Row 5, I have a degree of sympathy for all devs who have to deal with the attitudes of entitled man-children, (or even just children.) Saying a game is shit or bsb isn't quite the same as wishing harm on the creator.
Hyperion
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Yeah, sort of. And there are a lot more JRPG's than WRPG's, which makes things appear even worse. Blobbers are making a comeback, and JRPGs like the idea of battles being attrition before the big boss man. It's probably a cultural thing as well, where most Japanese gamers spend their time gaming on their daily work commute. Grinding helps make things get accomplished in bursts of time, rather than needing to sit down and spend 4 hours+ in one session. Taking pictures in SWERY is just its form of trash combat, if you will. The equivalent in most WRPG's is crafting. You're the hero, but you're busy picking weeds and digging up rocks to make a sweet sword needed to slay a Dragon that gives a sword that is just as good as the one some regular blacksmith made. Busywork because the price of most games is ludicrous and people want to justify their purchase with sinking x number of hours for 1 playthrough instead of sinking x number of hours without looking at the clock.
Thing is though, when do we consider something grinding? Is it a certain number of hours? When something is simply no longer fun? Fans of Blobbers and Monster Hunter will probably have a much higher tolerance than someone whose love for RPGs is based on IE games. Also depends on how well the system is crafted. My steam account says I have 400+ hours in The Last Remnant, and this isn't counting my first playthrough which was torrented (not proud of it, but I was 19 with piss poor income). It's probably closer to 700 hours. Pure grinding....but it was mesmerizing and fantastic and I (sort of) consider it time well spent.
no moa conbersation abutt D4!!!
SerratedBiz
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Even partly placing blame for your FIGstarter catastrophe on the leak of your "game title and concept art" is about as uninsightful as you can get. Good luck on the next try - "a lower goal" sounds like a step in the right direction.
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I've played pretty much every jRPG without grinding, avoiding pretty much all combat by escaping it.
The grind is a choose your own difficulty setting. If you're a moron or dumb kid you can grind to advance, otherwise you just use your abilities and consumables intelligently, like a real person.
Some jRPGs, though, are indeed extremely grindy, usually when bosses are harder than what you can handle or when the combat doesn't allow avoiding or escaping encounters.
Final Fantasy games: not grindy. Easy to escape or avoid fights, bosses tuned to be beatable at minimum level.
Persona 3 on hard: grindy as holy hell.
The grind is a choose your own difficulty setting. If you're a moron or dumb kid you can grind to advance, otherwise you just use your abilities and consumables intelligently, like a real person.
Some jRPGs, though, are indeed extremely grindy, usually when bosses are harder than what you can handle or when the combat doesn't allow avoiding or escaping encounters.
Final Fantasy games: not grindy. Easy to escape or avoid fights, bosses tuned to be beatable at minimum level.
Persona 3 on hard: grindy as holy hell.
Delterius
Arcane
Well, this kickstarter thingie work off nostalgia. Did he really believe that his fanbase is interested in a cute flash game about cats? And not just interested, but enough to give him a million? I am a fan of both DP and D4, but no way I'll give even a dollar for this shit. Sure, he can make whatever games he wants, but if you target a completely different audience don't expect much support from the previous one.
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Prime Junta
Guest
Who could not believe that face?
Delterius
Arcane
Did anybody else subscribe to their newsletter? I'm getting spam from them every day. In a good way. "18 hours to go!"
Also I have access to the preview version of the KS page. Don't worry, you'll see the whole thing in 17 hours. A couple highlights:
Unless there is a last minute change, KS will ask for 68,000,000. Not dollars you goof, yen. Early bird "get the game" is ¥2500 or about $24 American.
Pornographic minigame confirmed:
Unless there is a last minute change, KS will ask for 68,000,000. Not dollars you goof, yen. Early bird "get the game" is ¥2500 or about $24 American.
Pornographic minigame confirmed:
LESS T_T
Arcane
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"Much better" graphics:
KS preview: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/476090608/128197700?ref=456691&token=016e4490
Should be live in 30 minutes or so.
KS preview: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/476090608/128197700?ref=456691&token=016e4490
Should be live in 30 minutes or so.
Delterius
Arcane
lets see if swery's dreams don't die
Prime Junta
Guest
still too capitalist
(actually, consumerist. Gameplay that revolves entirely around grinding for $$$ is not my idea of fun, cat-lady role-playing opportunities notwithstanding)
(actually, consumerist. Gameplay that revolves entirely around grinding for $$$ is not my idea of fun, cat-lady role-playing opportunities notwithstanding)
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Delterius
Arcane
comrade this game is about debt induced madnessstill too capitalist
it will teach kids about the virtues of socialism, just like monopoly did
i hope it gets funded, because the concept is really interesting
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