Starfield Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[ADL]

The difference between ^ being really cool or really shitty is entirely dependent on cloth physics and whether or not other equipment clips through it.

 

[Caim]

The difference between ^ being really cool or really shitty is entirely dependent on cloth physics and whether or not other equipment clips through it.

So it'll be cool once the modders are done with it.

 

[Wunderbar]

I hate this modern trend of adding flapping cloth to a futuristic space suit so it could look semi-fantasy. I think Destiny started it, and then other generic games like TOW/Outriders/etc etc have followed.

 

[Riddler]

I hate this modern trend of adding flapping cloth to a futuristic space suit so it could look semi-fantasy. I think Destiny started it, and then other generic games like TOW/Outriders/etc etc have followed.

I think it's usually more western than fantasy.

 

[Caim]

I hate this modern trend of adding flapping cloth to a futuristic space suit so it could look semi-fantasy. I think Destiny started it, and then other generic games like TOW/Outriders/etc etc have followed.

I think it's usually more western than fantasy.

Fitting, given that a fair chunk of sci-fi is actually westerns in space.

 

[RNGsus]

Todd looking old. I admit, its sad. Like watching an epoch leave.

 

[vortex]

This was leaked how aliens will look like in Starfield

 

[Trojan_generic]

https://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/571316828

Lots of you jokers out there, go larp somewhere else or actually try hard and dont post fake shit.
[...]
-intelligent life exists alltough it will be part of the main story's mystery.

This is new to Bethesda games, I admit.

 

[Zeriel]

Procedurally generated space between designed hubs actually sounds interesting by modern Bethesda standards, maybe in another 20 years they'll make something half as cool as Daggerfall again.

 

[cvv]

Procedurally generated space between designed hubs actually sounds interesting by modern Bethesda standards, maybe in another 20 years they'll make something half as cool as Daggerfall again.

Daggerfall cool? A handful of quality handcrafted content drowned in a sea of pointless, obnoxious random generation. Not my cup of tea.

 

[Justicar]

Trash game for trash brains I hope you faggots choke on Todds miniscule penis.

 

[Zeriel]

Procedurally generated space between designed hubs actually sounds interesting by modern Bethesda standards, maybe in another 20 years they'll make something half as cool as Daggerfall again.

Daggerfall cool? A handful of quality handcrafted content drowned in a sea of pointless, obnoxious random generation. Not my cup of tea.

 

[tritosine2k]

Procedurally generated space between designed hubs actually sounds interesting by modern Bethesda standards, maybe in another 20 years they'll make something half as cool as Daggerfall again.

FYI "procedurally generated" nowadays means the visual has to fit into framerate / power envelope and so it's more of a culling thing

think of less obnoxious popping at distance


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[Magitex]

Procedurally generated space between designed hubs actually sounds interesting by modern Bethesda standards, maybe in another 20 years they'll make something half as cool as Daggerfall again.

It wouldn't be bad, but most AAA developers think procedural generation just means insert random loot boxes or enemies without rhyme or reason.. and I haven't seen anything to the contrary from Bethesda yet. I'm still kind of excited for Starfield, especially if they're going to have a more procedural environment, but my expectations are that it will just be some under-designed randomization in static areas that won't hold my interest for very long.

 

[Zarniwoop]

I hate this modern trend of adding flapping cloth to a futuristic space suit so it could look semi-fantasy. I think Destiny started it, and then other generic games like TOW/Outriders/etc etc have followed.

Yeah I'm sure the game will be perfect otherwise.

I mean these are the creators of "Fallout" 76, what could possibly go wrong?

 

[tritosine2k]

Procedurally generated space between designed hubs actually sounds interesting by modern Bethesda standards, maybe in another 20 years they'll make something half as cool as Daggerfall again.

FYI "procedurally generated" nowadays means the visual has to fit into framerate / power envelope and so it's more of a culling thing

think of less obnoxious popping at distance


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No x 1 Spectacle

but it is ,

 

[Magitex]

Procedurally generated space between designed hubs actually sounds interesting by modern Bethesda standards, maybe in another 20 years they'll make something half as cool as Daggerfall again.

FYI "procedurally generated" nowadays means the visual has to fit into framerate / power envelope and so it's more of a culling thing

think of less obnoxious popping at distance


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No x 1 Spectacle

but it is ,

Procedural means a fair few things and in the context of computing/gaming, usually means objects and game elements added/removed in runtime - these being classified as procedural generation. Unless they specifically stated it would be used for level-of-detail and culling, I think it's safe to say they meant adding to the area content with rule-based randomization, i.e nebula with different effects, random rocks to mine, 50 different flavors of hats, braindead pirate AI waiting for the player.

 

[tritosine2k]

It has to come down to culling because even PC-s with dishwasher power consumption levels can't deal with complexity of any sort and it can't get you a sense of exploration otherwise, plus they cannot even save that into savefiles most likely.

Nice try at some low-key hype though.

 

[Spectacle]

Procedurally generated space between designed hubs actually sounds interesting by modern Bethesda standards, maybe in another 20 years they'll make something half as cool as Daggerfall again.

FYI "procedurally generated" nowadays means the visual has to fit into framerate / power envelope and so it's more of a culling thing

think of less obnoxious popping at distance


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No x 1 Spectacle

but it is ,

That's an interesting technology, but still - if you say "procedurally generated" then people, both gamers and developers, will think of games like Minecraft and not a procedural culling method.

 

[Tihskael]

As far as procedurally generated terrain is concerned, I am sure a lot of Oblivion's terrain except the settlements and cities was procedurally generated. The artists then put in some more details and polished it till it looked good enough.

 

[Gargaune]

As far as procedurally generated terrain is concerned, I am sure a lot of Oblivion's terrain except the settlements and cities was procedurally generated. The artists then put in some more details and polished it till it looked good enough.

That's not what "procedurally generated" is used for in common parlance, though. The term describes content being generated at runtime, whereas what you're talking about is level designers using an algorithmic approach to laying down a base to iterate on manually. Diablo 2's levels are procedurally generated, whereas Oblivion's devs used an algorithm to generate a first draft for tree placements (that was all!), then touched it up and it's persistent in the final product.

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

Procedurally generated space between designed hubs actually sounds interesting by modern Bethesda standards, maybe in another 20 years they'll make something half as cool as Daggerfall again.

FYI "procedurally generated" nowadays means the visual has to fit into framerate / power envelope and so it's more of a culling thing

think of less obnoxious popping at distance


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Procedural generation never means graphical culling, wtf are you talking about? It means "semi randomish but works" like Diablo maps and rogue levels.

 

[tritosine2k]

Procedurally generated space between designed hubs actually sounds interesting by modern Bethesda standards, maybe in another 20 years they'll make something half as cool as Daggerfall again.

FYI "procedurally generated" nowadays means the visual has to fit into framerate / power envelope and so it's more of a culling thing

think of less obnoxious popping at distance


...

Procedural generation never means graphical culling, wtf are you talking about? It means "semi randomish but works" like Diablo maps and rogue levels.

Even diablo(1) mapgen is culling by its very nature, the whole generation is re-run when the level is unwalkable. Oops. Maybe lay down that kool aid dude.

 

[tritosine2k]

(...) while ignoring every other aspect of what it is is nonsense.

Maybe it's you "ignoring" what was said :

has to fit into framerate / power envelope and so it's more of a culling thing

more of a culling thing

 

[Corbin Dallas Multipass]

Procedurally generated space between designed hubs actually sounds interesting by modern Bethesda standards, maybe in another 20 years they'll make something half as cool as Daggerfall again.

FYI "procedurally generated" nowadays means the visual has to fit into framerate / power envelope and so it's more of a culling thing

think of less obnoxious popping at distance


...

Procedural generation never means graphical culling, wtf are you talking about? It means "semi randomish but works" like Diablo maps and rogue levels.

Even diablo(1) mapgen is culling by its very nature, the whole generation is re-run when the level is unwalkable. Oops. Maybe lay down that kool aid dude.

Hmm, yeah, definitely. You, the one guy with his own unique headcannon definition of a common term, are the smart one here. Please keep telling me that proc gen means graphical culling (And no, regenerating a map when it fails is not graphical culling you dunce).

You half remembered a term you heard once from a video, and thought you'd be the ackshually guy. But instead you've made an ass of yourself.