Erzherzog
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Barely holding on for the entire match gets old. I'm used to at least a few easy matches where I can explore the limits of a selection.
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So, anyone playing League of Legends?
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Renegen
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Sona getting reworked, they don't even need a reason to do it.
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=46561127#post46561127
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=46561127#post46561127
Azael
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No idea why they feel the need to rework Sona. Tweak her a bit, sure, but a rework is hardly needed. Then again, I've felt the same about a bunch of the champs that got reworked.
Huh? Sona's fine. Sure, she's too squishy for most of the popular botlanes, but I don't think there's something inherently wrong with her that a switch in meta wouldn't fix.
Azael
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Sona is easy to learn, hard to master. Very reliant on proper positioning due to how her Q works and how squishy she is. Giving her skill shots or targeted abilities would change her identity drastically.
Erzherzog
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So am the only one that watches the LCS games? Cloud 9 just stomped TSM, getting 18 kills to 1. I say stomped but TSM actually did a good job keeping it close. But still, TSM fans are cunts so I love seeing Cloud 9 do that.
Not surprising. I'm a fan of TSM (mostly because I've been a fan of Bjerg since the CW days) but C9 are just overall better, especially in mid to late game teamfights.
Demnogonis Saastuttaja
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A new support emerges :
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/28042-braum-the-heart-of-the-freljord-revealed
Finally something I like, even while nothing can truly replace Taric.
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/28042-braum-the-heart-of-the-freljord-revealed
Finally something I like, even while nothing can truly replace Taric.
fixedOh cool, a Freljord support! Now we can make an entire Freljord team that's competitively viable!
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Also, this poro has a mustache. Your argument is invalid.
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Renegen
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I played with Braum a bit, his passive and his ult are really powerful, the rest are situational. His passive especially is practically all he does defensively. If your teammate is getting attacked, you W to them and then you just hit them until they are stunned, there's nothing they can do to prevent it. The stun is long enough to seriously kite any melee champion or it can be used to focus that target and provides some added damage too. He has the same level of frustration playing against an Alistar except he requires less skill. The thing is of course that he's not really mana gated. If someone is ranged, he can use his E.
His ultimate can be used as initiation or defensively, making him a threat at all times. The weirdest part is that although he's designed to be used only defensively, he synergizes quite well with your own bruisers IMO. His short cooldown W provides a defensive steroid to himself and his ally, sort of like Lulu and his stun is just amazing at taking down a squishy. If a squishy gets hit by his Q, he's not getting away.
His ultimate can be used as initiation or defensively, making him a threat at all times. The weirdest part is that although he's designed to be used only defensively, he synergizes quite well with your own bruisers IMO. His short cooldown W provides a defensive steroid to himself and his ally, sort of like Lulu and his stun is just amazing at taking down a squishy. If a squishy gets hit by his Q, he's not getting away.
Azael
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His kit seems like it could be p. fun. That W should be good with Twitch or anybody else with stealth/ambush skills and his shield looks more interesting as a mechanic than Yasuo's windwall. How are his scalings?
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His scalings are hard to describe. His W and E do no damage and only improve slightly. W goes from 20 ar/mr to 30 and bonus scaling goes from 20% to 30%. The E goes from 3 seconds to 4. His Q has pretty decent damage and it's the first skill you max, he should be good in lane early. His ultimate doesn't really improve in any way, the CC at lvl 6 is the same as lvl 16 and the damage goes up a bit but it's most impactful at lvl 6. Even his passive goes from 1.25 seconds at lvl 1 to 1.75 seconds stun.
Where his scaling really comes from are items, he's a tank that's supposed to take punishment for his allies and bring a lot of disruption with his passive so any items enhance that greatly. If he can't be killed, he's going to be an annoying bugger. Like most tanks, instead of scaling by having more damage or anything, he gets drastically lower cooldowns. When his abilities are all maxed and when he hits 40% CDR, he uses his skills 3+ times instead of once per teamfight. CC also has great scaling because catching someone out of position late game is invaluable, and his ult brings that. He gets tons of power for free for sure, compared to a carry that has to get fed. I'd say he's strongest early and late. He's so similar to Alistar in many ways that Braum may be the product of the rumored Alistar rework, just brings a bit more to his team.
Where his scaling really comes from are items, he's a tank that's supposed to take punishment for his allies and bring a lot of disruption with his passive so any items enhance that greatly. If he can't be killed, he's going to be an annoying bugger. Like most tanks, instead of scaling by having more damage or anything, he gets drastically lower cooldowns. When his abilities are all maxed and when he hits 40% CDR, he uses his skills 3+ times instead of once per teamfight. CC also has great scaling because catching someone out of position late game is invaluable, and his ult brings that. He gets tons of power for free for sure, compared to a carry that has to get fed. I'd say he's strongest early and late. He's so similar to Alistar in many ways that Braum may be the product of the rumored Alistar rework, just brings a bit more to his team.
Azael
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Seems like he would be strong vs poke teams with his W/E combo, but not as strong vs divers since only his ultimate is instant hard cc. Only question is if he must wrestle Volibear whenever they meet.
If they made something like the Ashe-Sejuani-Lissandra or Khazix-Rengar quest, where Voli and him have to wrestle for supremacy resulting in a mustache-of-defeat for Voli or a helmet-of-defeat for Braum if one of them solo the other (meaning assists don't count), that would be awesome.
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Soloque, soloque never changes. So our 4th and 5th pick were duo and they were not happy with the 2nd pick taking J4 top. 5th pick says "I don't want to support, I don't want to mid", 4th pick just insta locks top Irelia. The pre-game chat is filled with "I troll", "you troll", but no one blinks first and there's no dodges. When the game starts, I hold a sigh of relief as J4 who had not said a single thing goes support, the first crisis has been resolved. Part of that decision was probably me making promises I'll gank his lane, yeah right I'm playing Nocturne. Nonetheless, I've observed from jungling many times that when you really follow a lane, you can find good gank spots without sacrificing too much farm. I watch the support movements carefully and I'm able to time her trinket and I get 2 good ganks and a kill before level 6, our guys still lose however. Meh, I have a good start so that's good.
I get a few more ganks in here and there, I continue to power up and even get a double kill mid. I'm like "yo Fizz, let's take dragon!", nope he recalls. So I hesitate and don't know what to do all by myself when bot is engaged in yet another losing fight, I ult, get heal baited, give away a shutdown and just like that the enemy ADC picks up 3 kills and goes to 7-2. Well, that's a throw. I solo the drag 1 minute later anyway because the enemy team is just as OP as mine. We continue to do well from that point, we get the next dragon I think and all of the outer towers, the game is around even but I really try not to engage in a teamfight. We have Irelia, Fizz and Nocturne, 3 "assassins" and their ADC is insanely fed. My team up to this point was smart to avoid teamfight seeing how I really wasn't too forthcoming (full damage Nocturne of course) and Irelia goes to split bot. The enemy team makes The Call and starts baron right under our noses. This is it, this is the moment every league player has been training for. You have 15 seconds to coordinate with 3 strangers and win a 4v5 at baron, no hesitation. In theory, we have the advantage, in theory.
Fifteen seconds go by, I couldn't retell to you what happened because it went so fast I don't remember anything. All I know is that I was a pussy and that apparently a badly aimed Nocturne Q on a 10 second cooldown isn't going to dent their tanky frontline. That's what the LCS taught me I should do, I think. We lose 3 members but they lose 2, they continue to tank baron! I wait until the baron is just at 1,500hp and ult in, kill their jungler, steal baron and kill their mid but their adc gets a 2nd shutdown on me. Alright, we're back ahead now, let me split guys I have the items! It turns out that's hard too. Just as I'm setting up for a nice split bot, my team gets engaged 4v5 and just gets wiped out. I tried to get in range, I really did but I blew my ult only as vision denial and never join the fight. Then I make another gamble, surely they won't take more than our inhib tower and inhib! I can solo dragon. Oh god, that dragon cost us the 2 nexus turrets. By the time I recall, our adc comes back up, I frantically buy homeguards and rush out to protect the Nexus and kill them as our Nexus was probably 2 hits away from GG. The GGs even went out in chat. My whole team is back up now and we just barrel down mid and take out 4 towers, ace them 1 by 1 and ultimately we take their Nexus and GG them.
I end up 12-2-9 with Nocturne, most cs on my team and most gold in the game. Of course looking back at the whole thing, they had a few things that benefited me, Darius top for some easy picking, Lux support aswell, all AD team comp. Some luck, some good play, some teamwork, every win still a mystery. Just another soloque game...
I get a few more ganks in here and there, I continue to power up and even get a double kill mid. I'm like "yo Fizz, let's take dragon!", nope he recalls. So I hesitate and don't know what to do all by myself when bot is engaged in yet another losing fight, I ult, get heal baited, give away a shutdown and just like that the enemy ADC picks up 3 kills and goes to 7-2. Well, that's a throw. I solo the drag 1 minute later anyway because the enemy team is just as OP as mine. We continue to do well from that point, we get the next dragon I think and all of the outer towers, the game is around even but I really try not to engage in a teamfight. We have Irelia, Fizz and Nocturne, 3 "assassins" and their ADC is insanely fed. My team up to this point was smart to avoid teamfight seeing how I really wasn't too forthcoming (full damage Nocturne of course) and Irelia goes to split bot. The enemy team makes The Call and starts baron right under our noses. This is it, this is the moment every league player has been training for. You have 15 seconds to coordinate with 3 strangers and win a 4v5 at baron, no hesitation. In theory, we have the advantage, in theory.
Fifteen seconds go by, I couldn't retell to you what happened because it went so fast I don't remember anything. All I know is that I was a pussy and that apparently a badly aimed Nocturne Q on a 10 second cooldown isn't going to dent their tanky frontline. That's what the LCS taught me I should do, I think. We lose 3 members but they lose 2, they continue to tank baron! I wait until the baron is just at 1,500hp and ult in, kill their jungler, steal baron and kill their mid but their adc gets a 2nd shutdown on me. Alright, we're back ahead now, let me split guys I have the items! It turns out that's hard too. Just as I'm setting up for a nice split bot, my team gets engaged 4v5 and just gets wiped out. I tried to get in range, I really did but I blew my ult only as vision denial and never join the fight. Then I make another gamble, surely they won't take more than our inhib tower and inhib! I can solo dragon. Oh god, that dragon cost us the 2 nexus turrets. By the time I recall, our adc comes back up, I frantically buy homeguards and rush out to protect the Nexus and kill them as our Nexus was probably 2 hits away from GG. The GGs even went out in chat. My whole team is back up now and we just barrel down mid and take out 4 towers, ace them 1 by 1 and ultimately we take their Nexus and GG them.
I end up 12-2-9 with Nocturne, most cs on my team and most gold in the game. Of course looking back at the whole thing, they had a few things that benefited me, Darius top for some easy picking, Lux support aswell, all AD team comp. Some luck, some good play, some teamwork, every win still a mystery. Just another soloque game...
Demnogonis Saastuttaja
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What's this Alistar rework I keep hearing about. Leave the cow alone, who the fuck cares about what some assholes in LCS play
Meh, I'm not saying Braum isn't bad ass, he totally is, but adding ice powers to him just cheapens and dilutes the whole concept of him and every other ice powered champion out there. Tryndamere is from freljord too, but they didn't feel the need to turn his mocking shout into a freezing breath like Supermans, so why do it to Braum?
Azael
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Just wait until Tryndamere's eventual remake where his sword will be carved from true ice and his W will be a cone of cold skillshot. Only Freljordan without a strict ice theme is Volibear. You know, if you don't count the whole polar bear thing.
Azael
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Had a ranked game the other day where I just couldn't figure out the enemy team in champ select. They had Rammus, Fiddle, Annie, Diana and Caitlyn. I figured Rammus jungle, either Annie or Fiddle mid/support and Diana top. A bit unconventional, but you never know. I end up picking Karma support since that's a fairly safe pick. Game loads and Diana has Smite and Ramass Ignite. I get confused and load up Lolnexus to investigate. Turns out Rammus has AD runes and 21/9/0 masteries, speccing in AD. To further my surprise, Fiddle is running a runepage with only AD and AP and also 21/9/0 masteries with AD focus. Crittlesticks incoming?
Game starts, their Rammus goes top vs. our Riven and proceeds to feed like crazy, meanwhile their Fiddle goes supports and starts Runic Shield. Is still so squishy that one Q from Karma brings him to 50% health. I get first blood on him. The game is won early with Rammus going 1/11 or something like that. Two finished items, Warmog's and Boots of Mobility. This is Silver, so not sure if trolling or just stupid.
Game starts, their Rammus goes top vs. our Riven and proceeds to feed like crazy, meanwhile their Fiddle goes supports and starts Runic Shield. Is still so squishy that one Q from Karma brings him to 50% health. I get first blood on him. The game is won early with Rammus going 1/11 or something like that. Two finished items, Warmog's and Boots of Mobility. This is Silver, so not sure if trolling or just stupid.
Like in all games, lower ranking tend to have the most difference in player quality.
However i have only been playing 2 months and silver players are not special. They know the basics so if you feed them, then you are fucked but they don't do anything special.
However i have only been playing 2 months and silver players are not special. They know the basics so if you feed them, then you are fucked but they don't do anything special.
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What a day to play ranked...
The first game with Yorick I wasn't too angry that we lost it. Our Nocturne that was duoing with a higher elo buddy had a paper thin build incapable of teamfighting or splitpushing against their superior Udyr, we had a crushing lead but just lost it as we couldn't quite close it, Nocturne again just never doing anything but farming. Apparently their adc was a diamond smurf too and at one time our Nid was 11-0. I totally deserved that win but thought the odds would just even out.
A Gangplank mid that built tanky, two afks and 2 incredibly hard feeding top laners later, we got ourselves 6 straight losses. The last game with Nocturne was particularly funny, they had a korean Shaco or something that generated 4 kills before his first back and told his mid laner to ward my blue at 7 minutes so that he could solo dragon at the same time. Who the hell does that? Still I tried as hard as possible to come back somehow but the previously mentioned hardcore feeding top laner sealed it. Eh, the worst part is that I won't be getting even today, felt like a waste.
The first game with Yorick I wasn't too angry that we lost it. Our Nocturne that was duoing with a higher elo buddy had a paper thin build incapable of teamfighting or splitpushing against their superior Udyr, we had a crushing lead but just lost it as we couldn't quite close it, Nocturne again just never doing anything but farming. Apparently their adc was a diamond smurf too and at one time our Nid was 11-0. I totally deserved that win but thought the odds would just even out.
A Gangplank mid that built tanky, two afks and 2 incredibly hard feeding top laners later, we got ourselves 6 straight losses. The last game with Nocturne was particularly funny, they had a korean Shaco or something that generated 4 kills before his first back and told his mid laner to ward my blue at 7 minutes so that he could solo dragon at the same time. Who the hell does that? Still I tried as hard as possible to come back somehow but the previously mentioned hardcore feeding top laner sealed it. Eh, the worst part is that I won't be getting even today, felt like a waste.
Azael
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After three straight losses I would have probably called it a day for ranked and either done something else entirely or wind down in normals/ARAM. Too easy to go on tilt and keep chasing that win.
Erzherzog
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Shoot, I stopped playing ranked for a week after my last losing streak.
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So how fun is this game compared to Dota Icefrong managed?
I liked the Two-headed dragon because he could nuke lanes and he's a dragon.
I liked the Two-headed dragon because he could nuke lanes and he's a dragon.
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