Silent Hill 4: The Room.. The Graphics.. They Same for you?

[Roguey]

t's best to emulate SH2 and 4 as the PC ports have various omissions and inferior effect substitutes. From what I recall, when using PCSX2, SH4 looks right only in the software renderer, though perhaps that has changed since I tried emulating it.

I bought SH2 back when it was relatively new and since I'm unfamiliar with the PS2 version I never noticed anything wrong with it. Likely feel the same way about PC SH4.

 

[schru]

t's best to emulate SH2 and 4 as the PC ports have various omissions and inferior effect substitutes. From what I recall, when using PCSX2, SH4 looks right only in the software renderer, though perhaps that has changed since I tried emulating it.

I bought SH2 back when it was relatively new and since I'm unfamiliar with the PS2 version I never noticed anything wrong with it. Likely feel the same way about PC SH4.

I played the PC version of SH2 multiple times before trying emulation and I was quite surprised by how much better looking and sounding it was. The PC version of SH4 has cut content on top of that. There's simply no reason to play the PC versions.

 

[Roguey]

I played the PC version of SH2 multiple times before trying emulation and I was quite surprised by how much better looking and sounding it was.

Sound sure, given that it shipped with compressed audio, but looks, no. PC SH2 has higher resolution textures, it looks great.

The PC version of SH4 has cut content on top of that. There's simply no reason to play the PC versions.

There are mods that fixed SH2 (including higher quality audio replacement) which make it superior to the PS2 version.

 

[CyberWhale]

t's best to emulate SH2 and 4 as the PC ports have various omissions and inferior effect substitutes. From what I recall, when using PCSX2, SH4 looks right only in the software renderer, though perhaps that has changed since I tried emulating it.

I bought SH2 back when it was relatively new and since I'm unfamiliar with the PS2 version I never noticed anything wrong with it. Likely feel the same way about PC SH4.

 

[schru]

I played the PC version of SH2 multiple times before trying emulation and I was quite surprised by how much better looking and sounding it was.

Sound sure, given that it shipped with compressed audio, but looks, no. PC SH2 has higher resolution textures, it looks great.

The PC version of SH4 has cut content on top of that. There's simply no reason to play the PC versions.

There are mods that fixed SH2 (including higher quality audio replacement) which make it superior to the PS2 version.

I'm not aware of the PC version having higher resolution textures, but I might be wrong. Don't you just mean that it offers higher rendering resolutions? The fog itself is much inferior in the PC version, having a plainer texture, but also being less sophisticated as an effect. It's difficult to find thorough comparisons due to the overlap with results regarding the botched HD Collection. However, this video for example does mention that some textures in the PC version are inferior while the rest are the same: https://youtu.be/hT4phG7XxKk?t=53

I wouldn't trust mods to fix it either. My experience with remasters and ports has been that they always fail to preserve some features and it's better to play original versions, unless the remaster adds something interesting.

Edit: And again, I've played the PC versions of SH2 and 3 many times. When I played SH2 in an emulator I was pleasantly surprised; SH3 didn't look any different (perhaps there were minor differences).

 

[CyberWhale]

It's difficult to find thorough comparisons due to the overlap with results regarding the botched HD Collection.

schru I've just posted a video of in-depth comparisons.

 

[Roguey]

I'm not aware of the PC version having higher resolution textures, but I might be wrong. Don't you just mean that it offers higher rendering resolutions? The fog itself is much inferior in the PC version, having a plainer texture, but also being less sophisticated as an effect. It's difficult to find thorough comparisons due to the overlap with results regarding the botched HD Collection. However, this video for example does mention that some textures in the PC version are inferior while the rest are the same: https://youtu.be/hT4phG7XxKk?t=53

I wouldn't trust mods to fix it either. My experience with remasters and ports has been that they always fail to preserve some features and it's better to play original versions, unless the remaster adds something interesting.

Look at the emulator comparison screenshots here http://enhanced.townofsilenthill.com/SH2/

Additionally http://enhanced.townofsilenthill.com/SH2/compare.htm

Mods fixed it.

 

[CyberWhale]

The Enhanced Edition does look pretty good at first glance (not sure about the fog yet), too bad it doesn't offer a side-by-side comparison with the original PS2 as well (Roguey actually edited his post, nice)

P.S. they should do AI upscaling of the textures as well.

 

[schru]

I'm not aware of the PC version having higher resolution textures, but I might be wrong. Don't you just mean that it offers higher rendering resolutions? The fog itself is much inferior in the PC version, having a plainer texture, but also being less sophisticated as an effect. It's difficult to find thorough comparisons due to the overlap with results regarding the botched HD Collection. However, this video for example does mention that some textures in the PC version are inferior while the rest are the same: https://youtu.be/hT4phG7XxKk?t=53

I wouldn't trust mods to fix it either. My experience with remasters and ports has been that they always fail to preserve some features and it's better to play original versions, unless the remaster adds something interesting.

Look at the emulator comparison screenshots here http://enhanced.townofsilenthill.com/SH2/

Additionally http://enhanced.townofsilenthill.com/SH2/compare.htm

Mods fixed it.

That's admirable effort, but I still would stick with emulation (or get the console) to be safe. The textures do appear to have the same resolution, it's just that the PS2 screenshots were taken at the internal PS2 resolution (it'd be interesting to play it on a C.R.T. that way). Also, wide screen in older games is heresy, I just play with letter-boxing. And thanks, those are good comparisons.

It's difficult to find thorough comparisons due to the overlap with results regarding the botched HD Collection.

schru I've just posted a video of in-depth comparisons.

Sorry, I was looking for screenshots and the video seemed a bit long. Will watch later.

 

[Roguey]

The textures do appear to have the same resolution, it's just that the PS2 screenshots were taken at the internal PS2 resolution (it'd be interesting to play it on a C.R.T. that way).

Yeah, I didn't quite accurately remember what the back of the box said. It just says you can play at a higher resolution than the PS2, not that it has higher resolution graphics.

Also, wide screen in older games is heresy, I just play with letter-boxing.

I also agree but the true enhancement is the fixing of shadows, fog, post-processing effects, and uncompressed audio.

 

[schru]

The textures do appear to have the same resolution, it's just that the PS2 screenshots were taken at the internal PS2 resolution (it'd be interesting to play it on a C.R.T. that way).

Yeah, I didn't quite accurately remember what the back of the box said. It just says you can play at a higher resolution than the PS2, not that it has higher resolution graphics.

Well, emulators can probably handle higher resolutions too, though I suppose there may be some scaling artefacts in some cases.

Also, wide screen in older games is heresy, I just play with letter-boxing.

I also agree but the true enhancement is the fixing of shadows, fog, post-processing effects, and uncompressed audio.

Certainly, I meant that as an aside. I admit that it looks like they've taken care of all the apparent problems, though I'd still try to compare the fog effect in motion to be sure.

 

[Morenatsu.]

texture upscaling is gay

 

[Citizen]

Soo... Can you say this is The Room of Silent Hill Series?

 

[karoliner]

Feel old yet?