RG's wife is also in the game. As a major character. What does she think about that, I wonder.
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RG's wife is also in the game. As a major character. What does she think about that, I wonder.
Then you just get next level - Molyneux in the Godus pitch, just started talking about how satisfying peeling onions was, and encapsulating that lol...
I keep saying the Ultima community is strange and peculiar. Here's some proof of that in action :
http://ultimacodex.com/2018/04/spam-spam-spam-humbug-103-first-impressions-shroud-of-the-avatar/
I dare you to try to listen to that podcast ; between the stuttering, the sound quality, the accent (is one of these people the midget from Twin Peaks ? ), it's only barely audible in "form", but the content is also ridiculous. They go at extreme lengths to ignore the elephants in the room : "oh yeah, the text window is too small" "there are some balancing issues with the skills and dungeons".
How about the fact the game is obviously unfinished ? That the towns are filled with big lots of nothing ? (I've just visited the equivalent of Britain, called 'Britanny' this time, it has several huge maps with NO npcs that you can actually talk to, get a quest, or anything. NOTHING.) That the performance is absolutely scandalous ? That the art style redefines what is ugliness ? That the whole thing is bugged to hell (last night I had to friend someone outside of the game and use a teleport scroll to get out of an island location because the boat captain was bugged). That the storyline, while having charm, plays particularly strange, bugged, and amateurish ?
FFS ! I'm playing it right now. Last night, they broke the map entirely (it's web based), and right now, the maps I'm seeing on my screen looks NOTHING like the area I'm in.
Isn't this what you should mention in "First impressions" ?
These are the people that backed SotA, that buy its terrain lots and items, and this is the kind of people Garriott now relies on to make a living.
Needless to say, I'm not particulary hopeful for the future of the game with such a crowd.
http://ultimacodex.com/2018/04/spam-spam-spam-humbug-103-first-impressions-shroud-of-the-avatar/
I dare you to try to listen to that podcast ; between the stuttering, the sound quality, the accent (is one of these people the midget from Twin Peaks ? ), it's only barely audible in "form", but the content is also ridiculous. They go at extreme lengths to ignore the elephants in the room : "oh yeah, the text window is too small" "there are some balancing issues with the skills and dungeons".
How about the fact the game is obviously unfinished ? That the towns are filled with big lots of nothing ? (I've just visited the equivalent of Britain, called 'Britanny' this time, it has several huge maps with NO npcs that you can actually talk to, get a quest, or anything. NOTHING.) That the performance is absolutely scandalous ? That the art style redefines what is ugliness ? That the whole thing is bugged to hell (last night I had to friend someone outside of the game and use a teleport scroll to get out of an island location because the boat captain was bugged). That the storyline, while having charm, plays particularly strange, bugged, and amateurish ?
FFS ! I'm playing it right now. Last night, they broke the map entirely (it's web based), and right now, the maps I'm seeing on my screen looks NOTHING like the area I'm in.
Isn't this what you should mention in "First impressions" ?
These are the people that backed SotA, that buy its terrain lots and items, and this is the kind of people Garriott now relies on to make a living.
Needless to say, I'm not particulary hopeful for the future of the game with such a crowd.
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Those kind of people are either way into brand loyalty or suffer from severe buyer's remorse.
I can answer your question. They are the people who defended Ultima Forever (the iOS game) and Dungeon Keeper mobile, two shitty F2P games.
From the official newsletter
"We do not give a shit about balance or quality, we just want people to log in more."
On the other hand, from the same email :
By this point this is just a medieval Second Life with basic combat mechanics.
"We do not give a shit about balance or quality, we just want people to log in more."
On the other hand, from the same email :
By this point this is just a medieval Second Life with basic combat mechanics.
I actually day-one-backed, but the pitch was so dodgy that even with Garriott involved I pulled out after about a week. Bear in mind that I backed Star Citizen as well and didn't pull out.
SotA: Less Plausible than Star Citizen
The loneliest blog in the world : http://blogoftheavatar.com/
And from the official forums : https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/raspberry-pi.119625/
I ... what the.... what...
And from the official forums : https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/raspberry-pi.119625/
I ... what the.... what...
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I am an early kickstarter backer. I knew what I was getting into, to be honest, but the Ultima series has sucked so much time of my teenage years and early adulthood that I knew I would play the game, however bad, at some point, for curiosity's sake.
I was not expecting the associated rabbit hole.
Also, just to be clear, this doesn't prevent me from having fun with the game but I am an easily pleased gamer. And you have to be, with this game. I wonder if the Ultima community is not just people who dropped gaming and picked it up again for this game, and are therefore more willing to ignore its faults, because really, pretty much everything in this game is not only unforgivable, but the more you hang out in the forums, chatrooms associated with this game or Ultima fans you cannot help but wonder : is it denial, or are they really oblivious to the game's faults ?
It has to be a mix of both, because really, the game is being panned everywhere. Steam reviews are mostly trashing this. The french forum listed a series of positive reviews, but the only major french publication to have reviewed it, Canard PC, has completely trashed the game.
It's pretty unbelievable ; you have to take this game's purpose litterally : when you start playing it, you really are getting yourself into another, much different world, alternate reality.
As for my progress, I'm starting to wonder if I'm not actually already 1/3 of the way done. If so, something is also wrong with the length of that game despite its huge size.
I was not expecting the associated rabbit hole.
Also, just to be clear, this doesn't prevent me from having fun with the game but I am an easily pleased gamer. And you have to be, with this game. I wonder if the Ultima community is not just people who dropped gaming and picked it up again for this game, and are therefore more willing to ignore its faults, because really, pretty much everything in this game is not only unforgivable, but the more you hang out in the forums, chatrooms associated with this game or Ultima fans you cannot help but wonder : is it denial, or are they really oblivious to the game's faults ?
It has to be a mix of both, because really, the game is being panned everywhere. Steam reviews are mostly trashing this. The french forum listed a series of positive reviews, but the only major french publication to have reviewed it, Canard PC, has completely trashed the game.
It's pretty unbelievable ; you have to take this game's purpose litterally : when you start playing it, you really are getting yourself into another, much different world, alternate reality.
As for my progress, I'm starting to wonder if I'm not actually already 1/3 of the way done. If so, something is also wrong with the length of that game despite its huge size.
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http://blogoftheavatar.com/
If one of you makes a move and leaps out to grab me in some sort of fit of vengeance, just be warned, I have a sword, and I’m fully prepared to use it.
Plus, I’ve been in some in unsavory water and you’re likely to contract something terrible and catch your death. Again…
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I as/was as well. I had hopes, but the KS just became massive decline as it went along.
I LOVED Ultima Online (b4 they fagged it up).
Honestly, I'd probably still be playing it (UO), BUT, they care beared the shit out of it.
Such is life...
Zep--
If you want to see how deep the rabbithole goes, take a look at this one year old thread and at the mental gymnastics it takes to justify this bullshit.
https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/f...here-really-ok-with-this-sort-of-thing.81211/
Their justification for reselling 20 bucks an item they got for free off the Unity store :
Also, this happened on the official Ultima Dragons discord, when we were talking economic models and I mentioned how shitty were lootboxes, paying mods, pay to win, SoTa's,
I do not think this counts as private conversations, and you guys are mentioned so whatever. But more importantly, if you want to know the reason why SotA sucks, then the explanation is in there somewhere.
This is the guy owning ultimacodex.com , principal relay between SotA and the Ultima community, and who once again defended the F2P model of Ultima Forever and Dungeon Keeper Mobile.
SOTA is great. PoE is shit. Move along.
https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/f...here-really-ok-with-this-sort-of-thing.81211/
Their justification for reselling 20 bucks an item they got for free off the Unity store :
Also, this happened on the official Ultima Dragons discord, when we were talking economic models and I mentioned how shitty were lootboxes, paying mods, pay to win, SoTa's,
I do not think this counts as private conversations, and you guys are mentioned so whatever. But more importantly, if you want to know the reason why SotA sucks, then the explanation is in there somewhere.
This is the guy owning ultimacodex.com , principal relay between SotA and the Ultima community, and who once again defended the F2P model of Ultima Forever and Dungeon Keeper Mobile.
SOTA is great. PoE is shit. Move along.
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What.
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There gunna be bitches there?
When I tell you it's just medieval Second Life, this shit proves it.
In a couple of months, people will be selling pretend sex. In the meantime, it's nice that some people will be able to pretend they went "dancing" this weekend and totally "hooked up".
In a couple of months, people will be selling pretend sex. In the meantime, it's nice that some people will be able to pretend they went "dancing" this weekend and totally "hooked up".
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Look, the average Ultima fan is slowly approaching an age where prosthetic hips are becoming a part of their life's reality.
Setting up virtual dance parties to pretend you are just as active as in 1993 is really just covering the demands of your target group.
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