Game News Shadowrun: Hong Kong Kickstarter is LIVE

[Athelas]

You did. Unless something is buggy, changing a feature isn't really a case of fixing something in the strictest sense.

 

[Nihiliste]

You did. Unless something is buggy, changing a feature isn't really a case of fixing something in the strictest sense.

Read what I said, I'm not talking about bugs.

I'm referring to the fact that developers' constant attempts to fix nonexistent problems in their games over the years just led to worse and worse RPG's being made; I'd rather just get more of the same shit, providing its good. Hence, happily supporting a campaign like this.

 

[Athelas]

Read what I said, I'm not talking about bugs.

I'm referring to the fact that developers' constant attempts to fix nonexistent problems in their games over the years just led to worse and worse RPG's being made; I'd rather just get more of the same shit, providing its good. Hence, happily supporting a campaign like this.

It was perfectly obvious what you meant. However, you seem to imply 'trying to fix what isn't broken' is the only way in which an RPG can fall short. I was pointing out that some people would like new things (i.e. a stealth system), which is something else than changing existing features.

Your distinction between 'more of the same' and 'fix what isn't broken' is a false dichotomy - an RPG sequel can introduce a new feature and still be good (or even better), i.e. BG 2 introducing a subsystem of spell battles, Fallout New Vegas introducing faction reputation mechanics, etc.

 

[naossano]

Fallout New Vegas Expanding reputation mechanics, etc.

 

[Athelas]

Fallout New Vegas Expanding reputation mechanics, etc.

I meant in relation to Fallout 3, its direct predecessor (unless you count karma as a reputation system).

 

[throwaway]

I don't really get what all the fuss is about. Granted, I ve yet to find time for either of the previous campaigns but with the first game being so light that it was fairly widely described as like a child's first RPG and this Hong Kong kickstarter being a 12h, developed within a year, funded for relative peanuts I m getting an image of a Fable-like affair.

 

[Infinitron]

I don't really get what all the fuss is about. Granted, I ve yet to find time for either of the previous campaigns but with the first game being so light that it was fairly widely described as like a child's first RPG and this Hong Kong kickstarter being a 12h, developed within a year, funded for relative peanuts I m getting an image of a Fable-like affair.

Play Dragonfall (also developed within several months) and come back to us.

 

[Nihiliste]

It was perfectly obvious what you meant. However, you seem to imply 'trying to fix what isn't broken' is the only way in which an RPG can fall short. I was pointing out that some people would like new things (i.e. a stealth system), which is something else than changing existing features.

Your distinction between 'more of the same' and 'fix what isn't broken' is a false dichotomy - an RPG sequel can introduce a new feature and still be good (or even better), i.e. BG 2 introducing a subsystem of spell battles, Fallout New Vegas introducing faction reputation mechanics, etc.

Actually, I made no suggestion that it's the only way - again, reread what I said. That's entirely an assumption on your part. You're being contrary for its own sake here. A simple statement in support of slam dunk RPG releases is not worth a semantic argument.

 

[Morkar Left]

I don't really get what all the fuss is about. Granted, I ve yet to find time for either of the previous campaigns but with the first game being so light that it was fairly widely described as like a child's first RPG and this Hong Kong kickstarter being a 12h, developed within a year, funded for relative peanuts I m getting an image of a Fable-like affair.

They constantly improved the games. It's a pretty good step from Returns to Dragonfall to the Dragonfall DC. Even for Returns they managed to implement cyberspace and an editor. In the kickstarter now they are fixing more things people wanted to improve like a proper inventory and and initiating tb mode by the player.

Okay, I would like to see more open ended gameplay with a wider distribution of skills for further campaigns or to allow to combine campaigns but overall they listen to the fans.

 

[naossano]

I meant in relation to Fallout 3, its direct predecessor (unless you count karma as a reputation system).

FoNV direct predecessor is Fo2.
Fo3 is the direct predessor of Fo4.

 

[AstroZombie]

 

[t]

ForkTong ?

 

[AstroZombie]

Yup.

 

[Outlander]

Check out the dude in the back going 'What the...? Oh God...'

 

[mindx2]

Don't think they'll make the $400,000 in 28 hours like SSR but still impressed by this KS:

#3
Soooo close...

Posted by Harebrained Schemes LLC


Our first Kickstarter for Shadowrun Returns funded at $400,000 in 28 hours. Can we beat that by 2pm Pacific time? Looks like it's gonna be tight!

Think we can get a quick surge this hour?

Help us beat the drum and get the word out by sharing the Kickstarter link anywhere you connect to social media (using the hashtag #shadowrunHK) - Facebook, Twitter, Google+, Tumblr, your blog…. smoke-signals...

And regardless of the timing, we can't wait to hit that $400,000 funding goal so everyone can play with Gaichu. He'll be a really cool addition to your crew of runners. Gaichu has two Growth Tracks: the Red Samurai Track & the Ghoul Track.

Let's hope he gets unlocked!

 

[Diablo169]

Is January a good month for crowd funding I wonder? I know a lot of people are hurting for money after spending far too much money on their hellspawn at Christmas.

 

[Korron]

First project I've backed since serpent. I always wonder when the kickstarter magic will fade. 2014 was so good though, and I'm glad to see it hasn't with HBS. At least with KS I can pretend backing is something more noble than being a bitch that preorders. Can't wait to hear potential inxile and obsidian pitches this year.

 

[Disgruntled]

I loved Dragonfall, so if they give me a new chapter in the same cool engine, with slight improvements, I would buy these 12 hours stories for 15 bucks for a dozen times. I don't need them to reinvent the wheel as long as they produce a good rpg.

I dont need them to reinvent the wheel either but it looks like 100k buys 80% of the expansion. The other 20% is stretched out in an extra 600k which seems unnecessary. While I loved Dragonfall, I was craving for more. A multi-hub epic with greater options and progression. They can use the same engine and assets but expand on everything else.
This is what I would pledge towards, while Hong Kong is something I can only support to get access for a playthrough.

Of course the extra money would not necessarily divvy into Hong Kong exclusively given the simple stretchgoals, but knowing its funding a long campaign down the line and not whatever else Harebrained has planned is what Id prefer.

 

[tuluse]

I dont need them to reinvent the wheel either but it looks like 100k buys 80% of the expansion. The other 20% is stretched out in an extra 600k which seems unnecessary. While I loved Dragonfall, I was craving for more. A multi-hub epic with greater options and progression. They can use the same engine and assets but expand on everything else.
This is what I would pledge towards, while Hong Kong is something I can only support to get access for a playthrough.

Of course the extra money would not necessarily divvy into Hong Kong exclusively given the simple stretchgoals, but knowing its funding a long campaign down the line and not whatever else Harebrained has planned is what Id prefer.

100k + what the developer is putting in. 0 dollars on ks would have "bought" a 12 hour expansion.

 

[Yuri Gagarin]

400K goal reached.

 

[naossano]

Too slow... Too slow... First day ended and still no Matrix...

 

[;]

Is January a good month for crowd funding I wonder? I know a lot of people are hurting for money after spending far too much money on their hellspawn at Christmas.

Dec-Feb is historically the slump period for Kickstarter, this year being no different. But then again it could be self-fulfilling.