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Review RPG Codex Review: Darth Roxor on Disappointment, thy name is Pillars of Eternity

Duraframe300

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That is interesting, because I have no performance issue with the game other than the quicksave.
Saving takes a lot of time, I wonder what kind of database and algorithm(Container) they use...
Could it be that your PC is old and rusty?! If so the solution is easy: GET A NEW ONE

You will have worse performance in Copperlane than other areas. I have an i7 4790k, 16GB RAM and a HD7970 and I get less than 60 FPS in the area - that's woeful performance.

I recently upgraded from an i7 870 1156 system and on that system I was getting less than 30 FPS in the area, which is horrible.

How high is your OC?
 

Crescent Hawk

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Of course they will. We simply aren't the old farts they were aiming to please.


If they somehow turn into Blizzard or wtv i am not surprised, tripleA Dragon Age of Witchers bullshit and all that jazz. I just expect some good projects to come along before they turn evil.
 

ROARRR

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That is interesting, because I have no performance issue with the game other than the quicksave.
Saving takes a lot of time, I wonder what kind of database and algorithm(Container) they use...
Could it be that your PC is old and rusty?! If so the solution is easy: GET A NEW ONE

You will have worse performance in Copperlane than other areas. I have an i7 4790k, 16GB RAM and a HD7970 and I get less than 60 FPS in the area - that's woeful performance.

I recently upgraded from an i7 870 1156 system and on that system I was getting less than 30 FPS in the area, which is horrible.

How high is your OC?

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz 3.30GHz
RAM: 16,0GB
Windows 7 Ultimate: 64Bit
Graphiccard: ATI Radeon HD 5850

and Seriously I have no visible performance trouble in Copperlane...maybe Sensukis components driver ain´t good...
 
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Sensuki

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Codex 2014 Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong A Beautifully Desolate Campaign
Measure your FPS before you say "you have no issue"

If you're playing on a 60Hz monitor with vsync on then yeah of course you're not going to notice anything.
 
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Lol, 60hz monitor in 2015? 120hz has been the standard for a looong time now.
 

ST'Ranger

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I don't have much to add that hasn't been bandied about in the thread already. But I will say this:

Not too long from now, Wizardry 8 will be 15 years old. People bitch and complain about aspects of the combat, but they still pick it up and make a party and try a playthrough after nearly 15 years. PoE will likely be just a forgotten footnote after such a period. I'm not attempting to compare the games apples to apples or even apples to oranges. They're not the same kind of game or aimed at the same kind of audience. What I'm saying is that PoE is ultimately a bland, forgettable experience - not only the story/world but also the combat/gameplay. It does not have that magical spark which will ensure a kind of longevity.

Whatever gratification lies in the game now, however pleasantly the game's appearance wraps itself around our minds, the illusion of substance cannot last. The tragedy of this is staggering to me. I too rejoiced in the jocular jabs at the game throughout its development, but deep down I knew Obsidian would give us something like a flawed gem at least. Not once did I seriously anticipate that this game would turn out the bleak, charmless husk that it did.

With respect to the way this game turned out, I feel as though we truly are in the darkest timeline.
 

ROARRR

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I don't have much to add that hasn't been bandied about in the thread already. But I will say this:

Not too long from now, Wizardry 8 will be 15 years old. People bitch and complain about aspects of the combat, but they still pick it up and make a party and try a playthrough after nearly 15 years. PoE will likely be just a forgotten footnote after such a period. I'm not attempting to compare the games apples to apples or even apples to oranges. They're not the same kind of game or aimed at the same kind of audience. What I'm saying is that PoE is ultimately a bland, forgettable experience - not only the story/world but also the combat/gameplay. It does not have that magical spark which will ensure a kind of longevity.

Whatever gratification lies in the game now, however pleasantly the game's appearance wraps itself around our minds, the illusion of substance cannot last. The tragedy of this is staggering to me. I too rejoiced in the jocular jabs at the game throughout its development, but deep down I knew Obsidian would give us something like a flawed gem at least. Not once did I seriously anticipate that this game would turn out the bleak, charmless husk that it did.

With respect to the way this game turned out, I feel as though we truly are in the darkest timeline.

Well not that dark! We have hope:
Underrail
AoD
 

AwesomeButton

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PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Insert Title Here RPG Wokedex Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath
So the Codex showered Obsidian with gifts, and then Obsidian turned out to be interested in someone else all along?

ITT: people butthurt because Obsidian friend-zoned the Codex.

At least I'm not the only one reaching this conclusion:
If I could add something to the conclusion: "PoE is a game kickstarted with 'grognards'' money, and then designed towards casuals and journos.".
 

Sensuki

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Codex 2014 Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong A Beautifully Desolate Campaign
On steamspy, people who own Pillars of Eternity also own

52% - XCOM: Enemy Unknown (surprise, people who like nu-school turn-based like this game)
48% - Borderlands 2
46% - The Witcher 2
46% - Divinity: Original Sin (more turn-based)
45% - Torchlight 2
44% - Fallout: New Vegas
42% - Bioshock Infinite
 

ROARRR

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On steamspy, people who own Pillars of Eternity also own

52% - XCOM: Enemy Unknown (surprise, people who like nu-school turn-based like this game)
48% - Borderlands 2
46% - The Witcher 2
46% - Divinity: Original Sin (more turn-based)
45% - Torchlight 2
44% - Fallout: New Vegas
42% - Bioshock Infinite

Well, that could indicate that there are people who love RT and TB
 

Sensuki

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Codex 2014 Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong A Beautifully Desolate Campaign
Borderlands 2, Witcher 2, Torchlight 2, Fallout New Vegas and Bioshock are all action combat games that require constant player input - this is different to real-time combat that does not require constant player input.
 

ROARRR

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Borderlands 2, Witcher 2, Torchlight 2, Fallout New Vegas and Bioshock are all action combat games that require constant player input - this is different to real-time combat that does not require constant player input.

Ok, that could mean that some people are able to enjoy different Battlemechanics.
 
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RPG Wokedex Strap Yourselves In
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Yeah, but you have incomplete data on RTwP games like NVN series, ID series, BG series, Torment and Dragon Age: Origins. All of these didn't require Steam on release and are sold on other platforms. It's possible that vast majority of PoE buyers also bought RTwP games but you won't see it, because these were all CD-releases. I myself have all the games I've mentioned but only DA:O is on Steam. Not to mention you won't see it either since my account is set on private.
 

Sensuki

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Codex 2014 Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong A Beautifully Desolate Campaign
I didn't make any statements other than these are the games shown by steamspy and that most of those games are action and turn-based, apart from the stuff in brackets.

Lack of newer BioWare games is likely due to them being Origin titles.
 

ROARRR

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I didn't make any statements other than these are the games shown by steamspy and that most of those games are action and turn-based, apart from the stuff in brackets.

Lack of newer BioWare games is likely due to them being Origin titles.

true! So what could be your statement to your posted Datasheet sir:martini:
 
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We simply aren't the old farts they were aiming to please.

So the Codex showered Obsidian with gifts, and then Obsidian turned out to be interested in someone else all along?

ITT: people butthurt because Obsidian friend-zoned the Codex.

I think Anthony Davis already clarified that the Codex has monies hence why they keep in touch lol, shouldn't be surprised as long as they deliver something better than Biothesda bullshit I think Obsidian has always been in the Codex "friend-zone".
 

APGunner

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I don't have much to add that hasn't been bandied about in the thread already. But I will say this:

Not too long from now, Wizardry 8 will be 15 years old. People bitch and complain about aspects of the combat, but they still pick it up and make a party and try a playthrough after nearly 15 years. PoE will likely be just a forgotten footnote after such a period. I'm not attempting to compare the games apples to apples or even apples to oranges. They're not the same kind of game or aimed at the same kind of audience. What I'm saying is that PoE is ultimately a bland, forgettable experience - not only the story/world but also the combat/gameplay. It does not have that magical spark which will ensure a kind of longevity.

Very true. Playing a couple of hours of PoE made me re-install VtM:B and finish it one more time. Despite being unpolished, that game had MEMORABLE setting, amazing characters, great atmosphere, everything about PoE is just bland.
 

Athelas

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On steamspy, people who own Pillars of Eternity also own

52% - XCOM: Enemy Unknown (surprise, people who like nu-school turn-based like this game)
48% - Borderlands 2
46% - The Witcher 2
46% - Divinity: Original Sin (more turn-based)
45% - Torchlight 2
44% - Fallout: New Vegas
42% - Bioshock Infinite
Uhm, you might want to try a method of correlation that is the slightest bit based on scientific methodology. I just looked up Aarklash Legacy (a 'true' RTwP game) and the list of related games is almost identical.
 

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