Vapourware Realms Beyond: Ashes of the Fallen - Chaos Chronicles reborn and dead again

[PrettyDeadman]

Still can't see any shadows.
Make shadows sharper and women more scantily clothed.
Without bob I can't even tell if there are any women on this picture which is a huge decline in interest in this game.

 

[Merlkir]

I don't think the grid overlay (and the rest of the GUI) quite works with your style of ground textures.
They're quite high frequency, almost noisy (both in detail and hue of colours sprinkled all over all the tiles) and the semi transparent grid only adds to the noise.
I'd suggest either having an option to set transparency, or to try and commit to a completely opaque overlay. Or figure out another effect (some kind of movement? Shimmer? That could get busy and annoying fast though..) that would separate it from the actual ground way more.
(imo semi transparent overlays can look good and functional, but on more uniform and less busy ground textures.)

edit: Try quickly flipping between the two versions of the battle screenshot. The one with the fog effect works quite a bit better, because the fog itself knocks the ground texture back, so the grid is more visible and readable.

 

[JarlFrank]

I don't think the grid overlay (and the rest of the GUI) quite works with your style of ground textures.
They're quite high frequency, almost noisy (both in detail and hue of colours sprinkled all over all the tiles) and the semi transparent grid only adds to the noise.
I'd suggest either having an option to set transparency, or to try and commit to a completely opaque overlay. Or figure out another effect (some kind of movement? Shimmer? That could get busy and annoying fast though..) that would separate it from the actual ground way more.
(imo semi transparent overlays can look good and functional, but on more uniform and less busy ground textures.)

edit: Try quickly flipping between the two versions of the battle screenshot. The one with the fog effect works quite a bit better, because the fog itself knocks the ground texture back, so the grid is more visible and readable.

Thanks for the feedback! We're going to try with a stronger, bolder grid overlay, and letting the player adjust grid opacity is also a good idea. Right now it does blend into the terrain too much indeed, especially in grassland areas.

 

[Abu Antar]

I say make the grid white, but that's just my opinion.

 

[JarlFrank]

That's also racist.

 

[Sitra Achara]

How about hiding the grid except when player holds alt, and also for the current traced path?

 

[Morkar Left]

That's also racist.

a true German game then...

 

[JarlFrank]

Merlkir does this look better to you?

Or maybe this variant?

 

[fantadomat]

The first pic looks better to me because the colours are more lively.

 

[vazha]

Both look good, way better than the previous ones.

 

[JarlFrank]

We also posted them for comparison on our official forums, go join up and post there too:
https://www.realms-beyond.com/forum/index.php?topic=104.0

 

[Merlkir]

Yeah, agreed. The second one is clearer, that's a similar (or the same?) effect as the fog layer, right?

 

[FeelTheRads]

I prefer the first one. The grid seems visible enough too.

In the second one, whether that's fog or grid shading, it makes it look washed out.

 

[JarlFrank]

Yeah, agreed. The second one is clearer, that's a similar (or the same?) effect as the fog layer, right?

It's a different technique, the grid renders as additional overlay mesh while the fog effect applies to every object immediately.

And since everyone seems to have a different preference, we'll offer both variants with customizable strength factors in the options (along with different color configurations for red-green color blindness).

 

[ArchAngel]

First one looks nicer overall aesthetically but second one it is easier to see your and enemy troops.

 

[JarlFrank]

sup codex

https://www.realms-beyond.com/combat-alpha-1-gameplay-video/

 

[ArchAngel]

Turn based D&D is Back BOYZ!

 

[PrettyDeadman]

Turn based D&D is Back BOYZ!

I wish they had interface similar to TOEE or Play Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor.
That wheel was superb and elegant.

 

[ArchAngel]

Turn based D&D is Back BOYZ!

I wish they had interface similar to TOEE or Play Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor.
That wheel was superb and elegant.

That wheel from ToEE was one of the worst things about ToEE. I don't want to see that shit anywhere ever again.

 

[Citizen]

I wish they had interface similar to TOEE or Play Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor.
That wheel was superb and elegant.

First rule of game UIs: never reinvent the wheel.

 

[Kabas]

Liking the interface that was shown so far, everything looks clear and informative to me.

 

[JarlFrank]

Turn based D&D is Back BOYZ!

I wish they had interface similar to TOEE or Play Pool of Radiance: Ruins of Myth Drannor.
That wheel was superb and elegant.

Our AP points are a cirlce

That's wheel enough

 

[Drowed]

The only thing I didn't like about this video is that the projectiles are so slow that I would have time to go into the kitchen, get dinner and go back before it hit (or miss) the target.

 

[Avonaeon]

Looking very good, so far. Lot of polish for an alpha already, which is nice to see.

 

[JarlFrank]

The only thing I didn't like about this video is that the projectiles are so slow that I would have time to go into the kitchen, get dinner and go back before it hit (or miss) the target.

You can speed up the animation and projectile speed by pressing space.

I'm quite puzzled why Peter didn't include that in the video at some point, but it's possible. I always speed everything up when I playtest the combat.