Ranting about the decline of Vampirism/Vampires in RPG's.

[Semiurge]

Werewolves in WoD are amazing. they have the same lore depth of vampire and in WoD you also have eastern vampires aka Kuei Jins.

Without Lo Pan there would be no Kuei Jins.

 

[FriendlyMerchant]

This thread borders on antisemitism somehow and I can't figure out why yet...

 

[Cryomancer]

This thread borders on antinanatic somehow and I can't figure out why yet...

Maybe because a antignomish vampire stole the book of golem creation from the gnome merchant guild. Or maybe because vampires engaging in necromancy can create undead slaves which reduces the value of half ogre slaves from the gnome merchant guild. I honestly don't know. hu3hu3

 

[Rahdulan]

This thread borders on antisemitism somehow and I can't figure out why yet...

Don't worry, I gotchu.

 

[FriendlyMerchant]

This thread borders on antisemitism somehow and I can't figure out why yet...

Don't worry, I gotchu.

That would never work IRL. The ADL would be on Jacinto instantly and he would end up having to pay reparations.

 

[plem]

Rudi(vtmb)

that's not a bloodlines character

Vampires are creatures from Slavic folklore, very aristocratic and selective on who they will embrace

vampire myths are older than slavic culture itself, dating at least as far back as ancient greece. some were aristocratic creatures, others were disgusting plaguebearers, others were shapeshifters, others were sexy witches, etc. none of those concepts is particularly older or more fundamental.

that's why WoD's kitchen sink approach is best. what you're describing are basically Tzimisce, which are a huge clan but not literally all vampires that exist. Strahd would be Cappadocian or Lasombra. if you think Rudi is representative of VtM vampires, read Dark Ages. it does vampire necromancy, blood sorcery and lording over mortals better than any other game.

 

[lukaszek]

i thought its common knowledge that vampires started in ancient egypt

Spoiler

with nagash

 

[RaggleFraggle]

Rudi(vtmb)

that's not a bloodlines character

Vampires are creatures from Slavic folklore, very aristocratic and selective on who they will embrace

vampire myths are older than slavic culture itself, dating at least as far back as ancient greece. some were aristocratic creatures, others were disgusting plaguebearers, others were shapeshifters, others were sexy witches, etc. none of those concepts is particularly older or more fundamental.

that's why WoD's kitchen sink approach is best. what you're describing are basically Tzimisce, which are a huge clan but not literally all vampires that exist. Strahd would be Cappadocian or Lasombra. if you think Rudi is representative of VtM vampires, read Dark Ages. it does vampire necromancy, blood sorcery and lording over mortals better than any other game.

He’s describing Dracula, Ruthven, Carmilla, Szandor and other gothic vampires. Gothic fiction invented the stereotype of aristocratic vampires.

Strahd is a blatant Dracula ripoff, even down to the reincarnation romance first introduced in the Dan Curtis version.

i thought its common knowledge that vampires started in ancient egypt

Spoiler

with nagash

Fun fact: Peter Tremayne’s Dracula novels depict Dracula as having become a vampire by joining an Ancient Egyptian vampire cult.

 

[Cryomancer]

He’s describing Dracula, Ruthven, Carmilla, Szandor and other gothic vampires. Gothic fiction invented the stereotype of aristocratic vampires.

Strahd is a blatant Dracula ripoff, even down to the reincarnation romance first introduced in the Dan Curtis version.

Yep. Strahd is a Dracula ripoff and that is why he is great...

 

[plem]

Dracula

canonically a Tzimisce in VtM lore

 

[RaggleFraggle]

Dracula

canonically a Tzimisce in VtM lore

And I should care about this why?

 

[Tyranicon]

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[Acrux]

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I hope you're adding vampire hunters as PC options. I'd love a good RPG where you can play as a vampire hunter.

 

[Tyranicon]

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I hope you're adding vampire hunters as PC options. I'd love a good RPG where you can play as a vampire hunter.

Yes.

They take themselves too seriously though

Not gonna lie, it'll be a lot of extra work since their campaign will be almost entirely different from the regular vampire/familiar one. But as I've said many times, I'm a glutton for work.

 

[Victor1234]

Reading this thread I'm suspecting that nobody actually read Bram Stoker's Dracula.

At it's core, it's a story about an Eastern European illegal immigrant who moves to the UK bringing nothing but literal dirt with him, to steal British jobs hotties. After he steals the wrong hottie, of someone actually important, Professor Cockblocker is brought in to root out this dark menace forever. The climax comes when they chase him out of the country by...ruining all his dirt.

Prof. Cockblocker knew that was his one weakness, you see. He flees back to his miserable homeland and we get the happy ending when the British invade liberate that poverty stricken land, beat down his minority thugs that even the locals detest and ruin his very last patch of dirt.

Ergo, vampires are Polish plumbers and the vampire hunters are drunk British tourists who go to Europe and piss on all the statues in the square.

 

[Acrux]

You're giving Jonathon Harker too much credit. Our hero's main activity is to file paperwork - most of which is to help Dracula. And then realizing he's helping a bad guy, he's scared shitless for the rest of the novel.