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After the Rance games, it's hard to find something so worthy in terms of characters, plot, music and world building. This is probably the biggest drawback for me.
The world building is pretty inconsistent though, so while I would call it good, it is not great.

What's truly impressive to me is the massive roster of characters, and how the games manage the tonal variety from "silly slapstick" to "you literally couldn't have this in a game that wasn't X rated". Also the gameplay in some of them is insanely good, and for a single series there's insane variety.
 

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Btw maybe someone tried Dai mode for Sengoku Rance? Is it good
I'm going to try it properly soon. I launched it briefly, seems it is intended to be played from the start of sengoku? You're allowed to skip ahead, but you end up with a bad army.

Seems to take a lot of inspiration/content from quest/IX/X, so it should be good.

Is evenicle 1/2 any good?
I played evenicle 1 about 50% of the way through, didn't like it. It's basically Rance Quest except you have 5 characters and you don't get to make any build choices. Just replay Rance quest instead!
 

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Is evenicle 1/2 any good?
Look at the girls, if you like them, go for it. I can't think of anything about Evenicle that stands out. The chapters do get longer each time, I think it suffers a bit from JRPG-type padding. Haven't beat it yet, I got kind of bored of the gameplay in I believe the second to last chapter.
 

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After the Rance games, it's hard to find something so worthy in terms of characters, plot, music and world building. This is probably the biggest drawback for me.
I think there are plenty of "VNs with gameplay" in Japan. A lot less got localized for the west, though. Alicesoft is good, but there's also Eushully, ninetail, Giga, etc.

Try Kamidori Alchemy Meister, Baldr sky or Utawarerumono.
 

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After the Rance games, it's hard to find something so worthy in terms of characters, plot, music and world building. This is probably the biggest drawback for me.
I think there are plenty of "VNs with gameplay" in Japan. A lot less got localized for the west, though. Alicesoft is good, but there's also Eushully, ninetail, Giga, etc.

Try Kamidori Alchemy Meister, Baldr sky or Utawarerumono.
Can't stray away from AliceSoft if you want the main guy to have a modicum of balls on him, the usual problem with VN protagonists is that fucking hot bitches just happens to them
 

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After the Rance games, it's hard to find something so worthy in terms of characters, plot, music and world building. This is probably the biggest drawback for me.
I think there are plenty of "VNs with gameplay" in Japan. A lot less got localized for the west, though. Alicesoft is good, but there's also Eushully, ninetail, Giga, etc.

Try Kamidori Alchemy Meister, Baldr sky or Utawarerumono.
Can't stray away from AliceSoft if you want the main guy to have a modicum of balls on him, the usual problem with VN protagonists is that fucking hot bitches just happens to them
The MC being a wimp is common for Japanese media because that's relatable. And of course hot girls pursuing him is every guy's dream. Still, Alicesoft aren't the only guys with a chad MC. Far from it.
 

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After the Rance games, it's hard to find something so worthy in terms of characters, plot, music and world building. This is probably the biggest drawback for me.
I think there are plenty of "VNs with gameplay" in Japan. A lot less got localized for the west, though. Alicesoft is good, but there's also Eushully, ninetail, Giga, etc.

Try Kamidori Alchemy Meister, Baldr sky or Utawarerumono.
Can't stray away from AliceSoft if you want the main guy to have a modicum of balls on him, the usual problem with VN protagonists is that fucking hot bitches just happens to them
The MC being a wimp is common for Japanese media because that's relatable. And of course hot girls pursuing him is every guy's dream. Still, Alicesoft aren't the only guys with a chad MC. Far from it.
You've brought up Kamidori, and it's fair to say it's probably right next to Rance series when it comes to weird Jap porn games you find out about only online. Wilfred is hardly as chaddean as Rance. If you're arguing that *some* exist *somewhere*, use better examples nigga?
 

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Kamidori has cool gameplay for a porn JRPG, but I never could get more than about 10 hours in, because the MC and plot are just insufferable. It's a "Good things happen to a Gary Stu" type of story and honestly just makes you wish you played Rance instead.
 

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Is evenicle 1/2 any good?
Played the first one for about a dozen hours. The MC is very boring – idealistic goody two shoes you see in every anime, albeit the setting is, at least, fairly dark to offset it somewhat. If you've played Quest to death and still want more, I guess Evenicle is a good pick, but I wouldn't recommend it otherwise.
 

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You've brought up Kamidori, and it's fair to say it's probably right next to Rance series when it comes to weird Jap porn games you find out about only online. Wilfred is hardly as chaddean as Rance. If you're arguing that *some* exist *somewhere*, use better examples nigga?
Those games and devs I mentioned are usually the top ones people mention when it comes to VNs with good gameplay. As for chad MCs, Rance is kind of in a class of his own, tbh. But I've played a few with a cocky/chad/twisted MC.

Most recently, I played Full Meta Muramasa where the MC isn't exactly a chad, but pretty badass. Sex/girls isn't the focus tho.

Venus Blood Gaia is one with good stategic gameplay, where the MC is a lord/scientist who forcefully impregnates the heroines with monster eggs to hatch his minion army. I think all of ninetail's games have a chad protag similar to Rance.

Another good one, but with a bad translation and no gameplay was Cross Channel, where the MC constantly "sexually harasses" the other girls, but the reasons for that are a bit darker and would be spoilers. Not similar to Rance, but worth a read imo.

The western VN Treasure of Nadia has a cocky protagonist who is obsessed with sex and every girl wants to fuck him. I think NLT's other VNs have a similar protags.

There are a few more, and lots more that I haven't played.
 

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Is evenicle 1/2 any good?
Played the first one for about a dozen hours. The MC is very boring – idealistic goody two shoes you see in every anime, albeit the setting is, at least, fairly dark to offset it somewhat. If you've played Quest to death and still want more, I guess Evenicle is a good pick, but I wouldn't recommend it otherwise.
I wouldn't say he's an idealistic good guy. He basically does what he does to fuck girls. But yeah, kind of tame and the sex scenes are vanilla too.

I think the biggest draw of Evenicle is the JRPG gameplay (not good but competently done for a VN) and the girls. It's hard to pick a favorite for me. I think Kathryn might be the funniest, but then we have a princess, a big boobed clutz knight, a loli ninja assassin and (spoilers) ancient dragon twins.

I have to beat it one of these days.
 

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Is evenicle 1/2 any good?
Played the first one for about a dozen hours. The MC is very boring – idealistic goody two shoes you see in every anime, albeit the setting is, at least, fairly dark to offset it somewhat. If you've played Quest to death and still want more, I guess Evenicle is a good pick, but I wouldn't recommend it otherwise.
I wouldn't say he's an idealistic good guy. He basically does what he does to fuck girls. But yeah, kind of tame and the sex scenes are vanilla too.

I think the biggest draw of Evenicle is the JRPG gameplay (not good but competently done for a VN) and the girls. It's hard to pick a favorite for me. I think Kathryn might be the funniest, but then we have a princess, a big boobed clutz knight, a loli ninja assassin and (spoilers) ancient dragon twins.

I have to beat it one of these days.
Evenicle's biggest draw is being a Rance Quest with an open world rather than everything being individual quests. Also you don't need to know the previous Rance games to make sense of it.
In exchange, the roster is a joke.
 
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Is evenicle 1/2 any good?
Played the first one for about a dozen hours. The MC is very boring – idealistic goody two shoes you see in every anime, albeit the setting is, at least, fairly dark to offset it somewhat. If you've played Quest to death and still want more, I guess Evenicle is a good pick, but I wouldn't recommend it otherwise.
I wouldn't say he's an idealistic good guy. He basically does what he does to fuck girls. But yeah, kind of tame and the sex scenes are vanilla too.

I think the biggest draw of Evenicle is the JRPG gameplay (not good but competently done for a VN) and the girls. It's hard to pick a favorite for me. I think Kathryn might be the funniest, but then we have a princess, a big boobed clutz knight, a loli ninja assassin and (spoilers) ancient dragon twins.

I have to beat it one of these days.
Evenicle's biggest draw is being a Rance Quest with an open world rather than everything being individual quests. Also you don't need to know the previous Rance games to make sense of it.
In exchange, the roster is a joke.

Kathy is great
 

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The MC is very boring – idealistic goody two shoes you see in every anime,
iirc he was specialy raised like that
I feel like there are Rance fanboys here who barely played any other VNs and judge other games based on their limited exposure and narrow preferences.

"This VN is boring because it's not like Rance" *heavy mouth breathing*

Alicesoft is great, but come on man, there's a whole world of stuff out there.
 

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The MC is very boring – idealistic goody two shoes you see in every anime,
iirc he was specialy raised like that
I feel like there are Rance fanboys here who barely played any other VNs and judge other games based on their limited exposure and narrow preferences.

"This VN is boring because it's not like Rance" *heavy mouth breathing*

Alicesoft is great, but come on man, there's a whole world of stuff out there.
For what reason would I steep down into the muck of the whole world of stuff out there instead of engaging with Rance more, or repeatedly? It's a series of ten+ games, barely anyone here has beaten all of them, myself included.
 

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For what reason would I steep down into the muck of the whole world of stuff out there instead of engaging with Rance more, or repeatedly? It's a series of ten+ games, barely anyone here has beaten all of them, myself included.
Rance is nowhere near the top of the best VNs.
 

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For what reason would I steep down into the muck of the whole world of stuff out there instead of engaging with Rance more, or repeatedly? It's a series of ten+ games, barely anyone here has beaten all of them, myself included.
Rance is nowhere near the top of the best VNs.
I'm content with what entertains me and don't need to play the best of the best. Bit too old to be a tryhard
 

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For what reason would I steep down into the muck of the whole world of stuff out there instead of engaging with Rance more, or repeatedly? It's a series of ten+ games, barely anyone here has beaten all of them, myself included.
*Cries in not having played 4.1 and 4.2*
Rance is nowhere near the top of the best VNs.
Man, you better show up with some top VNs!
I think sengoku and X are both top tier RPGs. Maybe not top tier VNs, because they have too much gameplay? But if so, why does anyone care about being top VN?
 

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I think sengoku and X are both top tier RPGs. Maybe not top tier VNs, because they have too much gameplay? But if so, why does anyone care about being top VN?
I based my reply on the vndb ranking, Sengoku is in the top 50 based on popularity, Rance X is near the top based on the score, but it has no English translation and only 825 votes.

Sure, play what you want, but I answered to Maxie's facetious reply that he had to "stoop down" from Rance to play other VNs. There are some real masterpiece VNs out there, so I hope he was only joking. Then again, Rance is pretty unique, so I can understand how it has such a cult following.
 

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