KickStarter Psychonauts 2

[Crazed Weevil]

J_C's mental landscape is starting to look like a senior Nazi official in 1944.

Let's send him over the edge...

http://theralphretort.com/if-you-give-tim-schafer-money-you-deserve-to-get-conned-12015015/

 

[Mustawd]

J_C's mental landscape is starting to look like a senior Nazi official in 1944.

Let's send him over the edge...

http://theralphretort.com/if-you-give-tim-schafer-money-you-deserve-to-get-conned-12015015/

I don't have a dog in this fight, but that article/blog post was stupid. Da fuck does Schafer being an SJW have anything to do with his project management skills? If anything it makes his point less valid because it looks like he doesn't have enough of an argument to stick to the point.

EDIT: Thanks for linking that, so I know to ignore that dumbass in the future. What a retard.

 

[HanoverF]

Can we make not Matt Barton Psychonauts 2 Information Minister?

"Psychonauts 2 will be best game ever and truly a boon to all mankind, I have personally invested this many in its production."

 

[Zombra]

I don't have a dog in this fight, but that article/blog post was stupid. What a retard.

I enjoyed how 80%+ of the "article" was him quoting himself.

 

[J_C]

J_C's mental landscape is starting to look like a senior Nazi official in 1944.

Let's send him over the edge...

http://theralphretort.com/if-you-give-tim-schafer-money-you-deserve-to-get-conned-12015015/

Thanks for posting that article written by a retarded idiot. It sure proves that I was right all the time.
Also, look at all the butthurt idiots in the comments section. All those tears taste delicious. Do you guys also have some sweet butthurt tears for me?
Tim never conned me, because pushing the release date of Broken Age doesn't constitute as fraud.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

I SURVIVED WORST TRAUMAS IN MY LIFE

Don't you mean "worse"?
Or are you an optimist?

Spoiler

 

[Havoc]

I doubt he survived the worst. He has to yet to play Schafer games.

 

[J_C]

I SURVIVED WORST TRAUMAS IN MY LIFE

Don't you mean "worse"?
Or are you an optimist?

Spoiler

Well I survived the worst, and survived stuff which is worse than this.

 

[J_C]

I doubt he survived the worst. He has to yet to play Schafer games.

Assuming I haven't played all of his games.

 

[ghostdog]

Let's be honest tho, Kickstarter isn't less fishy. If some project wants to scam people from their money, they can do it... and they have done it. I don't see much difference aside from the investor model. As for game-media investing in FIG games and promoting them for profit... LOL YEAH RIGHT getting adds from EA and Ubisoft is much more profitable than investing big sums of your OWN money and hoping to gain substantial profit from indie productions... especially Shaffer's.

 

[Immortal]

Let's be honest tho, Kickstarter isn't less fishy. [sic..] I don't see much difference aside from the investor model.

If you keep bumping the date, you never risk having the campaign fail and thus having to refund the Shekals.
I would like to point out that fudging dates is only possible now because they are running the site too.

They have become judge, jury and executioner. They control how much information goes out, they control how long campaigns go for, they control transparency on what is donated.

It went from a neutral website whose incentive is to get as many funded projects as possible on a level playing field (AKA bad ideas should fail quickly and be replaced by better ones) to an environment where Tims goal is to get his projects funded no matter what.

"Now let's find out if anyone wants this game.... okay not enough people want it yet.. add more days"

EDIT
INB4 "Oh we had a typo on the dollar amount.. we meant 2.3 million.. WHEW FUNDED!"

[sic..] The point is, -after- people have committed to X Goal with Y Parameters... DF can at any time go in and fudge around the numbers without asking anyone for permission or refunding back your pledge and asking you if you would like to continue pledging under the new circumstances.

If they are just gonna move goal posts every time the numbers look bad.. that could greatly affect the game that comes out the other end and there is no consumer protection / rules against it.
They control every end point.

Also Tim is a shady crook and the exact person you don't want overseeing this shit.

 

[Grimlorn]

Let's be honest tho, Kickstarter isn't less fishy. If some project wants to scam people from their money, they can do it... and they have done it. I don't see much difference aside from the investor model. As for game-media investing in FIG games and promoting them for profit... LOL YEAH RIGHT getting adds from EA and Ubisoft is much more profitable than investing big sums of your OWN money and hoping to gain substantial profit from indie productions... especially Shaffer's.

It would be highly unethical for journalists to be investing in games they cover. Not sure how anyone could seriously suggest this. You would have journalists promoting games because they invested in them and want to make their money back rather than being objective and promoting games because they are good.

 

[Jigawatt]

It would be highly unethical for journalists to be investing in games they cover. Not sure how anyone could seriously suggest this. You would have journalists promoting games because they invested in them and want to make their money back rather than being objective and promoting games because they are good.

 

[J_C]

It is also worth noting that they achieved 2,7mil with one of the lowest effort campaign I've ever seen. With the exception of that 3 retrospective videos at the start, they are not offereing any updates which worth a damn. And yet they are swimming in money. Eat that haters!

Spoiler

Although without the investors, they would be in deep shit, that will save this campaign.

 

[Immortal]

 

[Darth Slaughter]

I'll pirate the first episode of this game which I'll finish in one siting. Then I'll never touch it again. That's my prediction.

 

[J_C]

The game will come out as a regular release and it will blow your mind. You'll see.

 

[Darth Slaughter]

The game will come out as a regular release and it will blow your mind. You'll see.

Win-win situation. Anyway, I'll still pirate it.

 

[Boleskine]

 

[Modron]

And to think this was the game he said couldn't be made for less than something like 18million when Notch was offering to fund it.

I wonder how much funding DF is getting outside of the fig campaign/pilfered from their other kickstarters.

 

[Abu Antar]

And to think this was the game he said couldn't be made for less than something like 18million when Notch was offering to fund it.

I wonder how much funding DF is getting outside of the fig campaign/pilfered from their other kickstarters.

If you read the campaign info, a lot of it is spelled out for you. They will be getting money from others sources as well as putting in their own money. I guess reading is hard.

 

[sullynathan]

pirated the first game and played for 3 minutes. Seems like a quirky cool style game. Will pirate psychonauts 2 too.

 

[Dexter]

 

[Alex]

It would be highly unethical for journalists to be investing in games they cover. Not sure how anyone could seriously suggest this. You would have journalists promoting games because they invested in them and want to make their money back rather than being objective and promoting games because they are good.

Well, I think it would be more to the point that news outlets would be investing in the games they cover, not necessarily individual game journalists. Of course this isn't particularly worse than the way game media already works, but I don't see anything wrong with what Grimlorn said.

 

[Boleskine]

Great video. You'll never see any "gaming journalists" do a fraction of the research this guy did.

I have no idea why anybody continues to trust and give money to Tim Schafer.