KickStarter Phoenix Point - the new game from X-COM creator Julian Gollop

[Parabalus]

While devs didn't block this (probably just so people didn't need to micromanage base inventory and different ship inventories)

Letting you freely transfer between bases, and blocking ship2ship transfers would be an improvement.

 

[Visperas]

Honestly, I'm fine with instant and free transfer of items. To me, managing that is not fun and just busywork.

 

[Raghar]

ArchAngel is still defending the game at all costs.

 

[ArchAngel]

ArchAngel is still defending the game at all costs.

Game has its problems, but this is not it.

 

[Parabalus]

Honestly, I'm fine with instant and free transfer of items. To me, managing that is not fun and just busywork.

Exactly, this is why it should be disabled.

 

[Grunker]

Honestly, I'm fine with instant and free transfer of items. To me, managing that is not fun and just busywork.

Exactly, this is why it should be disabled.

Indeed, that's the whole point lol "I'm fine with this. I also hate this." nigga what

 

[Grunker]

ArchAngel is still defending the game at all costs.

Game has its problems, but this is not it.

Tedious management of superficial subsystems is the game's primary issue. It is everywhere.

 

[Raghar]

I like micromanagement. Simplifying game to simply send a squad and shoot. Where is the fun?

 

[Jaedar]

I like micromanagement. Simplifying game to simply send a squad and shoot. Where is the fun?

It can be fun if there's thought behind it. If you're just doing the same rote action over and over, it's not.

 

[ArchAngel]

ArchAngel is still defending the game at all costs.

Game has its problems, but this is not it.

Tedious management of superficial subsystems is the game's primary issue. It is everywhere.

You find anything tedious old man. Maybe you should just spend your money into hookers to suck your cock instead of playing games, you don't need to do anything there.

 

[ArchAngel]

I like micromanagement. Simplifying game to simply send a squad and shoot. Where is the fun?

Seems a lot of simpletons loved this aspect of Xcom 2012.

 

[ArchAngel]

What you guys are asking is not a small feat. You need to have different inventory for different locations with UI for that, then have new UI for transfering stuff between inventories and then rebalance costs for all items which pulls who knows how much other stuff. And for what? Because few players cannot self limit themselves because they think this is optimal play when it is not needed as I have been easily finishing the game on legendary honestman without doing that "optimal" play.
And then in addition you would piss off all the players that do not want more inventory management.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

So what would you guys say are the main issues with the game in its current state?

 

[Cyberarmy]

So what would you guys say are the main issues with the game in its current state?

Gets repetitive fast for this kind of game, kind of easy, getting all factions to your side is really easy and also our gear and soldiers feels soulless.

 

[scytheavatar]

So what would you guys say are the main issues with the game in its current state?

Game was sold as a return to the roots of XCOM UFO Base Defense, what it ended up being was an indie unpolished version of Nu-XCOM. Why would I play this game when I can play NU-XCOM instead?

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Why would I play this game when I can play NU-XCOM instead?

I prefer the setting and the visual design of it, but oh well. Not worth it if it's too subpar.

 

[ArchAngel]

So what would you guys say are the main issues with the game in its current state?

Game was sold as a return to the roots of XCOM UFO Base Defense, what it ended up being was an indie unpolished version of Nu-XCOM. Why would I play this game when I can play NU-XCOM instead?

Because it has 2x better mechanics than nu-Xcom. It is like saying why would I play Pathfinder Kingmaker when I can play Dragon Age 2.

 

[Grunker]

So what would you guys say are the main issues with the game in its current state?

It has the best bullet model ever designed for a tactical game and contrary to what you might think, this really adds to the gameplay in a huge way, making enemy and your attacks more a gradual thing than binary.

Unfortunately it is held back by having tons of uinteresting systems where you fiddle with small numbers to avoid small nuisances and none of it feels like you're making fun decisions.

 

[Modron]

Better bullet modeling than say JA2 and Silent Storm? Still fondly remember playing the SS demo and having to hit the deck at the end of my turn near an almost waist high raised curb and a lamppost and watching two MGs (among other soldiers) light the area up hearing all the ricochets off metal. Was too far to any meaningful cover so just played Sergeant York from there while redirecting other characters to flank. Granted skilling up makes everything far too accurate eventually in SS.

 

[scytheavatar]

Why would I play this game when I can play NU-XCOM instead?

I prefer the setting and the visual design of it, but oh well. Not worth it if it's too subpar.

Problem is that the setting and visual design is like more or less exactly the same as NU-XCOM............ same plastic Power Rangers designs. It is kind of weird to say one is better than the other.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

It is kind of weird to say one is better than the other.

Monster designs look less goofy, factions are neat and the whole plague scenario is better than both nuXcom 1 (in which Earth isn't too affected by the alien invasion which you ultimately repel) and 2 (in which aliens become conventional overlords and you play as lame ass guerillas against the alien-led government).

 

[ERYFKRAD]

in which aliens become conventional overlords and you play as lame ass guerillas against the alien-led government

I thought it was exactly the sort of revolution you'd root for against a bourgeoisie overlord.
Commie

 

[ArchAngel]

Why would I play this game when I can play NU-XCOM instead?

I prefer the setting and the visual design of it, but oh well. Not worth it if it's too subpar.

Problem is that the setting and visual design is like more or less exactly the same as NU-XCOM............ same plastic Power Rangers designs. It is kind of weird to say one is better than the other.

Setting is nothing like nuXcom, claiming that means you are either retarded or lying. Yea, general design of basic PP soldiers does look like it a bit but not enemy and many other humans you meet.

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

The setting is closer to UFO: Aftermath, really.
Which makes sense, seeing as Aftermath is based on an abandoned Gollop project.

 

[jac8awol]

Playing this with all DLC and mods now and it's quite pleasant. The skies one seems very ignorable, I had like one aerial battle so far and it was just a bit shit, but I liked the way the flier was guarding a corrupted haven and I needed to take it out to attack that haven. Difficulty level seems just about perfect, I'm staying afloat, able to make progress on research and have just enough resources to rearm and manufacture a few extras, as long as I go trade food with the other factions. I don't know why I've buddied up with Synedrion, I wasn't trying/planning to but it's just gone that way, the other factions are slowly warming up to me too, I guess that's just the default. Seems a bit too easy to get everyone on your side.
All-in-all seems better than when I tried it ages ago although it's hard to say why. UI does and I guess will always feel so cheap, art design and direction took a terrible wrong turn as we all know but the tactical combat is good.