Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Beta Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Tacgnol]

Man, these ugly-ass Kitsunes are more disgusting than any rat-folk I have ever seen. People who voted for this are idiots.

Sadly they were always gonna win cos they were the coom option for furries and otherkins.

It's a shame cos Ratfolk are really fun to play and get some unique feats/features for various classes on the tabletop.

 

[Thonius]

Man, these ugly-ass Kitsunes are more disgusting than any rat-folk I have ever seen. People who voted for this are idiots.

Sadly they were always gonna win cos they were the coom option for furries and otherkins.

It's a shame cos Ratfolk are really fun to play and get some unique feats/features for various classes on the tabletop.

Yep, they ruining my build, I wanted to do a ratfolk cavalier build.

 

[Reinhardt]

Ratfolk assassins, ratfolk alchemists, ratfolk snipers, ratfolk monks... Fuck, i could make full ratfolk party!

 

[AwesomeButton]

Does the game ever get difficult enough to justify the use of minmaxed builds, or is this just done out of pure autism?

And when I say difficult, I don't mean handicapped stats, but actual difficulty - encounters and enemy behavior in combat.

 

[Thonius]

Ratfolk assassins, ratfolk alchemists, ratfolk snipers, ratfolk monks... Fuck, i could make full ratfolk party!

And with their racial ability, it could've been a riot in tight spots and chokepoints.

 

[Gradenmayer]

Does the game ever get difficult enough to justify the use of minmaxed builds, or is this just done out of pure autism?

And when I say difficult, I don't mean handicapped stats, but actual difficulty - encounters and enemy behavior in combat.

For the Kingmaker it was just Pure Autism. You could solo the first game on Unfair Difficulty with a single min-maxed character (usually monk/kineticist)

 

[Technomancer]

chucking bombs as a swarm seems wrong

You wanna hear wrong? Swarm Jihad. Flamewarden 20. Swarm can spawn clones to compensate missing party members, let's assume 5 are the max. There is a cloak that spawns a swarm on clone death. Clones have all your abilities. Flamewarden makes your clones explode on death with CON scaling damage while simultaneously healing your allies AND at level 20 once per day it makes them respawn a round later with half health meaning even more explosions and swarms.

Spoiler

 

[Shadenuat]

Does the game ever get difficult enough to justify the use of minmaxed builds, or is this just done out of pure autism?

And when I say difficult, I don't mean handicapped stats, but actual difficulty - encounters and enemy behavior in combat.

Minmaxing and optimization are not synonyms.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

chucking bombs as a swarm seems wrong

You wanna hear wrong? Swarm Jihad. Flamewarden 20. Swarm can spawn clones to compensate missing party members, let's assume 6 are the max. There is a cloak that spawns a swarm on clone death. Clones have all your abilities. Flamewarden makes your clones explode on death with CON scaling damage while simultaneously healing your allies AND at level 20 once per day it makes them respawn a round later with half health meaning even more explosions and swarms.

Spoiler

Wrong game, Ignus.

 

[Zayne]

Is there a build library for Wrath?
Or can someone suggest something based on my vision?

I'd like to play as a spellsword-type character.
In Kingmaker I've used vivisectionist/knifemaster, but I want to try something different this time (maybe with longer melee weapon?) and keep it similarly coherent in-universe - 2 classes + prestige tops, without weird monk dips.
Will probably go for Azata/Gold Dragon mythic, but it depends on the circumstances.

 

[Reinhardt]

maybe with longer melee weapon

Barbarian.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

maybe with longer melee weapon

Barbarian.

Or prestigious polearm bearer.

 

[Reinhardt]

Time to prepare portraits for my party members. Loli elf, psycho elf, spider thing, fox girl, shaneekwa. Did i missed someone or that's all?

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Did i missed someone

Dunno, what's their AC?

 

[Desiderius]

Does the game ever get difficult enough to justify the use of minmaxed builds, or is this just done out of pure autism?

And when I say difficult, I don't mean handicapped stats, but actual difficulty - encounters and enemy behavior in combat.

This Unfair is in fact unfair, tho still not impossible. If you let bad guys detect your casters they will run over and hit them.

 

[Desiderius]

Is there a build library for Wrath?
Or can someone suggest something based on my vision?

I'd like to play as a spellsword-type character.
In Kingmaker I've used vivisectionist/knifemaster, but I want to try something different this time (maybe with longer melee weapon?) and keep it similarly coherent in-universe - 2 classes + prestige tops, without weird monk dips.
Will probably go for Azata/Gold Dragon mythic, but it depends on the circumstances.

This isn’t 3.5. Most of what you got from “builds” in the past is built into the classes themselves in PF ruleset. Completely viable (and usually even optimal) NOT to dip and splash. The build library IS the class list.

 

[Desiderius]

Does the game ever get difficult enough to justify the use of minmaxed builds, or is this just done out of pure autism?

And when I say difficult, I don't mean handicapped stats, but actual difficulty - encounters and enemy behavior in combat.

For the Kingmaker it was just Pure Autism. You could solo the first game on Unfair Difficulty with a single min-maxed character (usually monk/kineticist)

It was a much smoother experience to play the game as designed, which meant leveling slower, which meant non-trivial until at least midgame, and even there was smoother to actually fight stuff rather than virtual soloing (persistent ground effects + kiting or major nukeage or whatever) and that also took some attention if you wanted to keep reloads to a minimum.

Hard in Wrath is comparable to that. Unfair is another step up but can probably be degenerated too if you’re a degenerate, though it’s less trivial.

 

[Efe]

use any melee magus for your spellsword.
they are literally that

 

[Stoned Ape]

Is there a build library for Wrath?
Or can someone suggest something based on my vision?

I'd like to play as a spellsword-type character.
In Kingmaker I've used vivisectionist/knifemaster, but I want to try something different this time (maybe with longer melee weapon?) and keep it similarly coherent in-universe - 2 classes + prestige tops, without weird monk dips.
Will probably go for Azata/Gold Dragon mythic, but it depends on the circumstances.

For a more warrior-based spellsword than a magus, you could try a pure Bloodrager.

Off the top of my head, maybe something like:

Spoiler

Reformed Fiend (Abyssal Bloodline) 20
Azata
Pitborn Tiefling
Chaotic Good
Street Urchin: Pickpocket

Str: 19 (+5) or 18 (+4)
Dex: 14
Con: 14
Int: 10
Wis: 8 (or 11 +1)
Cha: 14

IMPORTANT: If you get to Mythic Rank 1 BEFORE taking character level 6, you should get an extra feat. If you don't care about that, then swap over the order of Second Bloodline and Limitless Rage, then grab Combat Reflexes later.

Skills: Athletics (or Trickery), Perception, Persuasion

Mythic Abilities:

1. Second Bloodrager Bloodline: Fey. Instrument of Freedom
3. Limitless Rage
5. Mythic Charge
7. Ever Ready
9. Rupture Restraints

Mythic Feats:
2. Mythic Weapon Focus
4. Mythic Power Attack
6. Mythic Improved Critical
8. Mythic Vital Strike
10. Mythic Resolve

Azata Superpowers: Incredible Might, Marvelous Endurance

Feats:
1. Power Attack
3. Weapon Focus: Glaive/Bardiche
5. Iron Will
6. (Bloodrager Bonus: Cleave, Combat Reflexes)
7. Outflank
9. Improved Critical: Glaive/Bardiche (Bonus: Toughness, Lightening Reflexes)
11. Vital Strike
12. (Bonus: Intimidating Prowess, Dodge)
13. Improved Vital Strike
15. Cleaving Finish (Bonus: Sunder Armour, Improved Initiative)
17. Greater Vital Strike
18. (2 Bonus Feats. Not much good stuff left to go for, so choose what you like)
19. Blind Fight

When you Bloodrage, I think you'll get +1 size from Abyssal from 4th level. You'll also get haste from Fey at 12th level, along with a load more bonus damage from Abyssal. At 20th level you get auto-bane from Fey while raging.

 

[Mortmal]

what do play what to play what to play

I like paladin, because FUCK YOU evildoers, die.

But also Wizurds with MYSTARY and big spells.

halp

Paladin you want to use angel mythic path i bet, well there's some bugs with merging spellbooks apparently. Wizard you will go for lich as everyone else and so far it's working, not heard of bugs . So for your first play through pick something not broken .

 

[Sykar]

chucking bombs as a swarm seems wrong

You wanna hear wrong? Swarm Jihad. Flamewarden 20. Swarm can spawn clones to compensate missing party members, let's assume 6 are the max. There is a cloak that spawns a swarm on clone death. Clones have all your abilities. Flamewarden makes your clones explode on death with CON scaling damage while simultaneously healing your allies AND at level 20 once per day it makes them respawn a round later with half health meaning even more explosions and swarms.

Spoiler

Wrong game, Ignus.

BUUURRRRRNNNNN!

 

[Desiderius]

Is there a build library for Wrath?
Or can someone suggest something based on my vision?

I'd like to play as a spellsword-type character.
In Kingmaker I've used vivisectionist/knifemaster, but I want to try something different this time (maybe with longer melee weapon?) and keep it similarly coherent in-universe - 2 classes + prestige tops, without weird monk dips.
Will probably go for Azata/Gold Dragon mythic, but it depends on the circumstances.

For a more warrior-based spellsword than a magus, you could try a pure Bloodrager.

Off the top of my head, maybe something like:

Spoiler

Reformed Fiend (Abyssal Bloodline) 20
Azata
Pitborn Tiefling
Chaotic Good
Street Urchin: Pickpocket

Str: 19 (+5) or 18 (+4)
Dex: 14
Con: 14
Int: 10
Wis: 8 (or 11 +1)
Cha: 14

IMPORTANT: If you get to Mythic Rank 1 BEFORE taking character level 6, you should get an extra feat. If you don't care about that, then swap over the order of Second Bloodline and Limitless Rage, then grab Combat Reflexes later.

Skills: Athletics (or Trickery), Perception, Persuasion

Mythic Abilities:

1. Second Bloodrager Bloodline: Fey. Instrument of Freedom
3. Limitless Rage
5. Mythic Charge
7. Ever Ready
9. Rupture Restraints

Mythic Feats:
2. Mythic Weapon Focus
4. Mythic Power Attack
6. Mythic Improved Critical
8. Mythic Vital Strike
10. Mythic Resolve

Azata Superpowers: Incredible Might, Marvelous Endurance

Feats:
1. Power Attack
3. Weapon Focus: Glaive/Bardiche
5. Iron Will
6. (Bloodrager Bonus: Cleave, Combat Reflexes)
7. Outflank
9. Improved Critical: Glaive/Bardiche (Bonus: Toughness, Lightening Reflexes)
11. Vital Strike
12. (Bonus: Intimidating Prowess, Dodge)
13. Improved Vital Strike
15. Cleaving Finish (Bonus: Sunder Armour, Improved Initiative)
17. Greater Vital Strike
18. (2 Bonus Feats. Not much good stuff left to go for, so choose what you like)
19. Blind Fight

When you Bloodrage, I think you'll get +1 size from Abyssal from 4th level. You'll also get haste from Fey at 12th level, along with a load more bonus damage from Abyssal. At 20th level you get auto-bane from Fey while raging.

I did Reformed Fiend Aeon run. It was a nice fit.

Spoiler

Arrow pointing at a nice Aeon longlasting buff that helps iteratives.

 

[Daedalos]

CAn sum ofu post some GUD portrait packs?

I want some dark shit, and angelic shit. like badass stuff with executioner helms of doom or undead stuff and some angel stuff for oracles and palals

 

[Zayne]

use any melee magus for your spellsword.
they are literally that

I've tried Magus on my first Kingmaker playthrough, when it was a buggy mess, didn't make it past act 2 and didn't enjoy the class itself.

Is there a build library for Wrath?

For a more warrior-based spellsword than a magus, you could try a pure Bloodrager.

Thanks, I'll look into that class. Although I usually prefer DEX-based builds (because my first D20 games were KotORs and DEX was superior to everything else there)

 

[Seari]

Is Demon path still shit storywise? I'm thinking about which mythic path to do first. Right now I'm thinking vanilla Angel Seeker Oracle. Demon Skald looks very interesting to me though. Wanted to do Cavalier Lich, but I don't want to be a furry.