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KickStarter Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

Fedora Master

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Why can enemies that are asleep have the ability to dodge, there's nothing like seeing 5 members of my party missing again and again the same target and when the enemies wake up, they hit on their first try. The dumbest thing I have seen in a long time:retarded:

What happened to the coup de grace mechanic from older editions anyway. Same with the healing during rest, I thought once I got a cleric I'd be able to cut down on rest time much more but all it does is restore spells, which are then wasted on healing after the camp is broken up.

Didn't you hear?

Heal on rest in Bg2 is decline, real RPGs waste your time with casting memorized Cure Light Wounds.
Wat, you have to manually cast them? :lol:
No, they're just retarded and missed the big "use healing abilities" toggle on the camp screen.
it's toggled on by default, you can't miss it.

The button straight up says that characters will use remaining healing spells. In BG they memorized new spells, cast them, memorized them again.
 

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It's also a bit ass-backwards how you can lug around tons of eggs, cheese and 'taters but can only use them to make meals for buffs, not as actual rations.
 

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Avellone obviously was not writing dialog. If he was, he would not have a barbarian woman saying anachronistic and frankly stupid words like "crappy."

Funny that you say that because words like "shit" were already very well in use in the middle ages (although taboo) and the word "crap" has its roots in Middle English ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Look I appreciate the effort you put into this post, but the word "crappy" is a decidedly modern sounding word. If she had said "shitty" I would not have made the comment; your two points don't follow each other. It just doesn't fit; in much the same way that "like" has been around a long time, but it would be ridiculous if a barbarian woman in Ye Olden Fantasy Tymes were to like, talk a bunch, like, about how, like big her like sword is. Just because a word has been around a long time doesn't mean you can just throw it in there.

I mean, the word "fire" has been around a long time too, but "firing an arrow" is an anachronism; arrows were not "fired," they were "loosed." "Firing" an arrow imposition of the procedure for using firearms on the usage of a bow. It's dumb, smart writers will avoid it.

Fucking hell, this is exactly what I'm talking about. This is bullshit.

While "shit" is definitely an older expression than "crap", it doesn't really matter, because have both been in use since well before we all were born. They are both not modern words. Crap was first recorded (!) in 1898. The reason why you're preferring shit to crap (lol) is because one word is more popular than the other, not because one is older and therefore "more historically correct". If fantasy book authors had somehow decided to always use the word crap instead of shit, you wouldn't be complaining today. It has nothing to do with anachronism, it's completely arbitrary. I would bet you a crapton of money that there is a crapload of words more modern than "crap" in the game that you would never identify as being anachronistic. You just notice "crap" because for you it is specifically related to modern use of language. If you use the word "crap" a lot or are around people that use it all the time, that's the reason why you notice it. Not because it is itself a modern word.

Now, I agree with you on "like" in this case, but for a very different reason. "Like", the way you used it, has an established function in a sociolect that's very much in use today all the time. It's not the word itself that's modern, but the way it is used in a sentence in a very specific sociolect.

This might all seem like giant nitpicking (probably also is, in a way) but criticizing writing should happen for the right reasons. Avoiding words that have a specifically modern function for an individual is impossible. Avoiding a modern sociolect associated with everything but Barbarians, however, is.
 

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Yeah, getting attacked 3 times while resting, not being able to cook in dungeons for some reason. "Rations" don't include the large amount of fucking food you carry... This is just wonderful
 
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Oh, yeah. one more thing. I've looked at the starting NPCs builds, and while not optimized, they are not really bad by any means. Except Valerie. A fighter with low strength and low dex? And using a tower shield? Is her entire purpose to just stand and tank while dealing no damage herself? I guess so, judging by her high constitution. How boring.
 

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Killed slaver ambush, used muh swamp knowledge to track them to their camp, ambushed at night and went on a fureh, allowed orc to lawfully break leader's neck. Hint: even if youh master slaver wizard summoner of thay, casting something near enraged enlarged mammothfucking barbarian girl with 2 handed sword is bad idea.

Hah, bitch had wand of expeditious retreat on her :lol: Did not help.
 
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Only issue I have is the bugs. They delayed this game a month or so and still tons of bugs. Feats not working and the like.
 

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It's a shame they didn't make it turn-based. Not only those games play better but also sell much better.
Two people have rated my above post with [citation needed].

A citation for what? To prove that RTwP RPG (or classic RTS for that matter) games sell much worse than turn-based (D:OS, XCOM, Battletech)? With the exception of PeE 1 which sales were driven, probably, by nostalgia.

Here it is: https://steamspy.com/
 

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Killed slaver ambush, used muh swamp knowledge to track them to their camp, ambushed at night and went on a fureh, allowed orc to lawfully break leader's neck. Hint: even if youh master slaver wizard summoner of thay, casting something near enraged enlarged mammothfucking barbarian girl with 2 handed sword is bad idea.

I tracked down the camp in that adventure thingies, but I got no opportunity to free my companion? Does it pop up on the map?
 

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Yep. I want to play it too, but I am afraid my potato pc won't be able to :despair:
My 6 year old i5 has no issues, if that's any pointer. My GPU is slightly newer though.

I'll add to this and say that I ran a test with an old T420 last night (Sandy Bridge i5 / Intel HD 3000 GPU) and it ran the game OK with some settings turned down. I also ran it off of a USB 2.0 external HDD in that test. I probably won't be playing this game on that system, just was curious if it would actually run or not since the stated sys requirements were surprisingly low.

As others have mentioned ITT, the menu actually whips the shit out of the GPU for whatever reason compared to the in-game stuff. Using a frame limiter is recommended to avoid scorching your GPU, just like other great Unity games of the past like Expeditions:Conquistador and others.
 

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Killed slaver ambush, used muh swamp knowledge to track them to their camp, ambushed at night and went on a fureh, allowed orc to lawfully break leader's neck. Hint: even if youh master slaver wizard summoner of thay, casting something near enraged enlarged mammothfucking barbarian girl with 2 handed sword is bad idea.

I tracked down the camp in that adventure thingies, but I got no opportunity to free my companion? Does it pop up on the map?
Don't know, I never lost a companion since I do not reason with slavers I kill them.
 

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Yep. I want to play it too, but I am afraid my potato pc won't be able to :despair:
My 6 year old i5 has no issues, if that's any pointer. My GPU is slightly newer though.

I'll add to this and say that I ran a test with an old T420 last night (Sandy Bridge i5 / Intel HD 3000 GPU) and it ran the game OK with some settings turned down. I also ran it off of a USB 2.0 external HDD in that test. I probably won't be playing this game on that system, just was curious if it would actually run or not since the stated sys requirements were surprisingly low.

As others have mentioned ITT, the menu actually whips the shit out of the GPU for whatever reason compared to the in-game stuff. Using a frame limiter is recommended to avoid scorching your GPU, just like other great Unity games of the past like Expeditions:Conquistador and others.

Nice, my potato is a sandy bridge laptop with a discrete gpu though. Maybe I'll give it a try.
 

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Killed slaver ambush, used muh swamp knowledge to track them to their camp, ambushed at night and went on a fureh, allowed orc to lawfully break leader's neck. Hint: even if youh master slaver wizard summoner of thay, casting something near enraged enlarged mammothfucking barbarian girl with 2 handed sword is bad idea.

I tracked down the camp in that adventure thingies, but I got no opportunity to free my companion? Does it pop up on the map?
If you find the camp & the slavers you need to click on your companion to free him. It's not a dialogue or anything, it's an icon that shows up over his body.
 

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As others have mentioned ITT, the menu actually whips the shit out of the GPU for whatever reason compared to the in-game stuff. Using a frame limiter is recommended to avoid scorching your GPU, just like other great Unity games of the past like Expeditions:Conquistador and others.
I put HBAO on Low and it fixed the GPU issue for me on menus.
 

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Killed slaver ambush, used muh swamp knowledge to track them to their camp, ambushed at night and went on a fureh, allowed orc to lawfully break leader's neck. Hint: even if youh master slaver wizard summoner of thay, casting something near enraged enlarged mammothfucking barbarian girl with 2 handed sword is bad idea.

I tracked down the camp in that adventure thingies, but I got no opportunity to free my companion? Does it pop up on the map?
Don't know, I never lost a companion since I do not reason with slavers I kill them.

Ah, okay. Misread your post then. Thought you had one get kidnapped too and had to track their camp.
 

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Started out as a Magus but rerolled as a paladin cuz he didn't seem to be doing anything.
Combat feels better than deadfire but quality of animation is kinda wonky.

I think the only thing I absolutely hate is the camping system.
 

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Thought you had one get kidnapped too and had to track their camp.
You can track camp even if you kill them since leader gets away moment you get her to 50% hp

Valerie sucks
Her CHA seems like you could change her alignment to LG and dual into Paladin to make her even tougher and compliment damage with smite evil, but so far there is no quest like that. Maybe later? If not, then her stats are lol she's pretty so 15 CHA! Which is a problem yeah
 

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So how's the "handling" in the game? What defeated NWN2 wasn't the systems after all, but a combination of camera, poor-ass kinaesthetics and horrible interaction with UI and environment, both in practice and as far as ~~~*FEELS*~~~ go.
 

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So how's the "handling" in the game? What defeated NWN2 wasn't the systems after all, but a combination of camera, poor-ass kinaesthetics and horrible interaction with UI and environment, both in practice and as far as ~~~*FEELS*~~~ go.

I think if you run it on a ssd you and have a ok graphics card like a 970 you will be fine. Also this isn't really related but the walking doesn't feel right. It's like all the characters did squats yesterday and can't move legs for their lives (literally).
 

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camera is set isometric (they could have added transparency to some trees though), hitting enemies is fun.
 

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So is blindness actually permanent? Not sure how I can continue the save if it is. Can't remove it and can't afford the scrolls or potions to remove it. Been resting to see if it gets removed but nope.
 

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