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Zeriel

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Some of those ascendancies seem very cool. Some I think I just don't understand "remove all energy shield, damage you would take is reserved as life instead (until you take no damage for 1 second).".
Doesn't that just mean you can't heal and lose all energy shield?

wildspeaker having headhunter seems fun. Enemies having 20% life reserved while nearby is the most ??AWESOME???WHAT?? thing I've seen in poe in a long time.

But if I play this league, I'm playing Daughter of Oshabi I think. Twice as many spellslingers active? Yes please. The shrine one seems like it would be fun, except I don't think I actually want to click on that many lesser shrines?

That's not headhunter, it's inspired learning. So 1 jewel. Wildspeaker seems very much the "leveling ascendancy" if you don't opt for minion scaling. Whisperer being the more advanced one that has scaling.

As far as the life reservation thing (on yourself), that's one of those things that makes no sense as read but is a "multiple uniques interacting" kind of effect that can be made OP.

I do think charges generation without some inbuilt scaling in the ascendancy is kinda silly. So with Whisperer you have potential because you can scale off spell damage increases, about 80% of the ascendancy is extra bits that let you scale damage, but Wildspeaker spends SO many points just to get free charges with no added effects in a lot of the nodes. For example, spending 4 nodes to get what Whisperer gets for 2 in terms of charges. Sure you can share it with minions/party, but if you are playing solo I'd say it's strictly inferior for 90% of players. Added flat phys from wolves + minion damage increases buffing your own damage is nice, as is potentially double damage, but it feels way more pointstarved than Whisperer. Whisperer can get 80% or so of the desirable nodes in 1 character. Wildspeaker is more like 50%, or even 40% of the desirable ones being available in one build.
 

Zeriel

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That's not headhunter, it's inspired learning. So 1 jewel.
1 jewel my poor ssf ass will never see.

Yeah, I've never used it in trade league either. But "1 effect" is a farcry from headhunter's "all effects". It being automatic and not requiring a gear/jewel slot is nice, but it's also behind another major node, so realistically you're looking at 4 points for it, so it's exclusive with some other major picks (like double damage).
 

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Doesn't that just mean you can't heal and lose all energy shield?
It means you can't die if you can keep yourself from getting hit too much for 1 second. It's the upgraded version of the jewel from Exarch, very good for life stackers
1 jewel my poor ssf ass will never see.
It drops fairly often, or maybe it was just my luck (I had to chance ancestral vision and when I got it I didn't even need it because I've specced into different thing)

PS For me the most cracked ascendancy is the surfer one, you can have like triple possession for uber-zoom, like 125% ias and cast speed and various other buffs.
 

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confused about this one
so if I have 200 dexterity I would get extra 40% damage

but increases and reductions is not clear to me
for example would this work: "Minions gain (15-20)% of Elemental Damage as Extra Chaos Damage"

or just these skills which only have "minion deal x% increased damage"
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also if you get 150% from minion damage you probably want to craft weapon using this essence even if you don't have minions

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Inec0rn

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Looks awesome, ya been playing almost since beta 2k hours or so. I'm honestly shocked at the PoE2 launch, the lacking content and direction they took the sequel.

I think they've got a hell of a lot of work to do to spin that situation around. Their first game and this next league is now the biggest competition to their new game... and its 10x more fun too :|
 

Zeriel

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Thursday, February the 20th (PST)



only need to reach lvl 80 for whole set
not bad
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I reeeeeally hate the whole "watch Twitch streamers to get the final item of the set!" nonsense. Goddamn modern game companies really are the shittiest shitters that ever shitted.


luckily its only for the cloak and it looks like shit



Ah, that's fine then. If it's just a random cloak from the store at least you can buy it, I assumed it was exclusive like the armor, whoops.
 

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How do people think Heralds "Damnation" works? If I have 60% chaos res, am I taking 30% reduced elemental damage taken(insanely good), or -30(worthless) ?

I am really unsure how to build oshabi. The +wisps seem like they would demand actually using wand attacks for profit, but then spellslinger behind it rewards spells, and I don't think you can build both at the same time? And since it's not you doing the wand attacks but the wisps, a lot of support attacks fall away? And while a wand build has been on my todo list forever, I don't see how free spam of support spells would be helpful.

Herald, speccing into agony seems like it could be fun... But the more I think about it servant of arakaali poison (cobra lash, spiders, penance mark) seems more fun. A lot of attack speed and poison% from the spiders, penance mark lets you keep spiders up even on bosses, cobra lash means the adds will die automatically and chain back to boss for even more damage.

Shavronnes wrapping from scion would also let me run an ES low life build for the first time, which has also been on my todo list. But I don't have any ideas beyond that specific combo. ED+contagion with chaos explosion? But how to get single target damage?
 

Gerrard

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Entire ascendancy locked behind "Your spells are disabled", they cooked too hard.
 

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Every templar class is a different variety of heretic (not that the normal templar isn't pretty heretic himself, but it is easy enough to just ignore the game's story).
 

Zeriel

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How do people think Heralds "Damnation" works? If I have 60% chaos res, am I taking 30% reduced elemental damage taken(insanely good), or -30(worthless) ?

I am really unsure how to build oshabi. The +wisps seem like they would demand actually using wand attacks for profit, but then spellslinger behind it rewards spells, and I don't think you can build both at the same time? And since it's not you doing the wand attacks but the wisps, a lot of support attacks fall away? And while a wand build has been on my todo list forever, I don't see how free spam of support spells would be helpful.

Herald, speccing into agony seems like it could be fun... But the more I think about it servant of arakaali poison (cobra lash, spiders, penance mark) seems more fun. A lot of attack speed and poison% from the spiders, penance mark lets you keep spiders up even on bosses, cobra lash means the adds will die automatically and chain back to boss for even more damage.

Shavronnes wrapping from scion would also let me run an ES low life build for the first time, which has also been on my todo list. But I don't have any ideas beyond that specific combo. ED+contagion with chaos explosion? But how to get single target damage?

It's the former. EDR is like PDR. Also Endurance Charges give you EDR, so you are trading potentially some EDR from Endurance for that. Endurance also gives PDR, so... really, the node is only good if you were planning to not use Endurance, or not stack them high.
 

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path of building has new ascendancy classes (need to use jewel slot)
wasted about 5 hours learning to use it and build still not done and its just a basic flicker strike build, rare items are annoying so I just copied some of the rare pieces from ninja
 

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It's the former. EDR is like PDR. Also Endurance Charges give you EDR, so you are trading potentially some EDR from Endurance for that. Endurance also gives PDR, so... really, the node is only good if you were planning to not use Endurance, or not stack them high.
Ehhh, 4 endurance charges is 16%, and that requires a decent build investment to have and maintain (depending a bit on where you are in the passive tree). If you take damnation, and with the bonus from agony, you would for sure cap your chaos res, for 37% extra, as much as 9 endurance charges, which is a massive investment. Seems like an above average ascendancy node to me.

It is unfortunate that heralds only work on kill, and that the ascendency disables all your other auras. Otherwise I might have done a herald wander.

Every templar class is a different variety of heretic (not that the normal templar isn't pretty heretic himself, but it is easy enough to just ignore the game's story).
But you can finally play paladin!
 

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Think I'm just going to play PS or LA to get the armor set and be done, I played so much of Settlers and eventually got tired of having shit RNG with the recombinators trying to make a Banishing Blade and failing like 7 times at final step, had enough of clicking alterations 1000+ times per one component and having to trade for bases.

Then I was also making this
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Did >100 rerolls, got mana recovery 3 or 4 times but no life. More trading needed, fuck that.
 
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well making my first build took about 15 hours of staring pob + browsing wiki and taking little bit inspiration from poeninja (decline I know but I did ssf blind playthrough already)

https://pobb.in/aUS3Y1V2rbFi

kept 3 jewel sockets empty + no flasks but dunno if that keeps it reasonable
some of those dex stacking items are probably expensive but uniques seemed to be pretty free according to tradesite so I picked some of the better corruptions
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since attribute stacking was the hottest shit in poe2 planning to try it now
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used this to find those items
https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Dexterity
still need to check if shaper's touch is trash
 

tritosine2k

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Thread of hope is sirus drop XD

they fish for synthetised implicits for attr stack... Rings, amu etc... you craft it all with essence*.

My go to build is almost all unique at least it was before ventor ring KILL. I don't even 6link for T16 (I sell craft don't use)... You can't do this in 2 yet bc hardly any build define unique.

*Attr league start:
One streamer did just this in pohx league cptlance ? I don't even know where those cone from heist?
 
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BlackAdderBG

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well making my first build took about 15 hours of staring pob + browsing wiki and taking little bit inspiration from poeninja (decline I know but I did ssf blind playthrough already)

https://pobb.in/aUS3Y1V2rbFi

kept 3 jewel sockets empty + no flasks but dunno if that keeps it reasonable
some of those dex stacking items are probably expensive but uniques seemed to be pretty free according to tradesite so I picked some of the better corruptions
p5FLNQQ.png

since attribute stacking was the hottest shit in poe2 planning to try it now
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used this to find those items
https://pathofexile.fandom.com/wiki/Dexterity
still need to check if shaper's touch is trash

Is there a reason to use Elegant Hubris Timeless Jewel? If you are stacking dex Brutal Restraint is the go-to jewel if I'm not mistaken.
 

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Is there a reason to use Elegant Hubris Timeless Jewel? If you are stacking dex Brutal Restraint is the go-to jewel if I'm not mistaken.

nope I just used timeless jewel for 2 nodes to cap my phys block + get some chaos res did not want to use anything outrageous
I tried to find list somewhere about all passive skills in each type of timeless jewel but did not find it

I check out brutal one thanks
 

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Is there a reason to use Elegant Hubris Timeless Jewel? If you are stacking dex Brutal Restraint is the go-to jewel if I'm not mistaken.

I tried to find list somewhere about all passive skills in each type of timeless jewel but did not find it

You can see all the passives in the wiki for each timeless jewel
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For finding what seed of jewel you need you kind of have to use Timeless Jewel Calculator, which you have to watch a tutorial to find how to use (it's not complicated, but hard to understand on first glance or without context)

https://vilsol.github.io/timeless-jewels/tree
 

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