Path of Exile is a MAJESTIC incline

[lukaszek]

on d3 release they announced poe2
on d4 release they will announce poe2 beta
on d5 actual beta access

 

[ArchAngel]

I want to play PoE2 because they are removing the socket system as it is now. I never liked it. It was always especially punishing for SSF which is what I always tried to play until I get frustrated and I would just buy some 5l or 6l. Diablo 2 didn't have such system and nobody really needed additional RNG on top of already existing RNG of right base item and right mods.
I want to play PoE2 because they promised slower combat where we do not clear screens in 1-2s because we are expected to do it because enemy damage is so high you just die if you let enemies attack for more than 2s. Diablo 2 didn't have this and we didn't need it.

If D4 can give me similar experience while also having good character building options and decent itemization I do not need PoE2.

 

[Nelka]

I get frustrated and I would just buy some 5l or 6l

That's why they added stuff like the crafting bench later on. If you don't believe in your luck, then you just throw out some currency. Simple as that.

 

[Jaedar]

It was always especially punishing for SSF which is what I always tried to play until I get frustrated and I would just buy some 5l or 6l.

A 5L is easy to craft in white maps / early yellows with your league starter imo. 6L is a pain.

 

[Grunker]

I get frustrated and I would just buy some 5l or 6l

then you just throw out some currency

softcore player detected

 

[Nelka]

I get frustrated and I would just buy some 5l or 6l

then you just throw out some currency

softcore player detected

So you are saying you can't use 150 Orbs of Fusing to craft 5L using crafting bench on hardcore or SSF, hm?

 

[Grunker]

I get frustrated and I would just buy some 5l or 6l

then you just throw out some currency

softcore player detected

So you are saying you can't use 150 Orbs of Fusing to craft 5L using crafting bench on hardcore, hm?

softcore player

detected

 

[ArchAngel]

I get frustrated and I would just buy some 5l or 6l

That's why they added stuff like the crafting bench later on. If you don't believe in your luck, then you just throw out some currency. Simple as that.

1500 fusings is simple?

 

[Nelka]

I get frustrated and I would just buy some 5l or 6l

That's why they added stuff like the crafting bench later on. If you don't believe in your luck, then you just throw out some currency. Simple as that.

1500 fusings is simple?

Nah, it's retarded way to spend those orbs, but it's always an option that devs gave to people who already lost hundreds trying to get 6L. Especially when League is coming to an end and you can fuck with currency to try some other builds.

 

[ArchAngel]

I get frustrated and I would just buy some 5l or 6l

That's why they added stuff like the crafting bench later on. If you don't believe in your luck, then you just throw out some currency. Simple as that.

1500 fusings is simple?

Nah, it's retarded way to spend those orbs, but it's always an option that devs gave to people who already lost hundreds trying to get 6L. Especially when League is coming to an end and you can fuck with currency to try some other builds.

OK so you agree that best way is to buy a 6L like I said which screws over players that do not want to trade.

 

[Nelka]

I get frustrated and I would just buy some 5l or 6l

That's why they added stuff like the crafting bench later on. If you don't believe in your luck, then you just throw out some currency. Simple as that.

1500 fusings is simple?

Nah, it's retarded way to spend those orbs, but it's always an option that devs gave to people who already lost hundreds trying to get 6L. Especially when League is coming to an end and you can fuck with currency to try some other builds.

OK so you agree that best way is to buy a 6L like I said.

Nah, the best option is to pray to RNG Jesus and get this shit done by yourself. Good rolled items with already 6 Linked Sockets are fucking expensive.

 

[Gamezor]

I tried to play this but d2r just seems to much smoother. I don't know man it just feels better. It's also less opaque. Should I invest a few hours in this?

 

[Reever]

There's nothing atm shown in D4 that would suggest Blizzard tries to take on PoE.

You still have a lot of overlap between people that would be intersted in PoE and Diablo. Even a game like Lost Ark which is mechanically quite different to PoE managed to steal a lot of the playerbase in the first few months of it's release.

I want to play PoE2 because they are removing the socket system as it is now. I never liked it.

In essence nothing will change. From the info they gave us you'll still have to find a skill gem that has enough sockets which I assume won't differ that much in terms of rarity from finding an item that has enough linked sockets.

 

[abija]

Having players play PoE for 2 weeks at start of each league is Wilson's wet dream.

I want to play PoE2 because they are removing the socket system as it is now. I never liked it. It was always especially punishing for SSF which is what I always tried to play until I get frustrated and I would just buy some 5l or 6l. Diablo 2 didn't have such system and nobody really needed additional RNG on top of already existing RNG of right base item and right mods.
I want to play PoE2 because they promised slower combat where we do not clear screens in 1-2s because we are expected to do it because enemy damage is so high you just die if you let enemies attack for more than 2s. Diablo 2 didn't have this and we didn't need it.

If D4 can give me similar experience while also having good character building options and decent itemization I do not need PoE2.

A bit of reality check:
Sockets suck atm because of the devs, it's not something inherent in the design. They could very well put 6l on vendor at resonable price. PoE2 will be just as grindy and gear based unless people start voting with their wallet (gl with that).
They keep talking about slower pace since forever, not gonna happen. It was slower in the showcase because it's early game pacing. Same for D4. I would be extremely surprised if either game doesn't turn into zoom zoom zoom in late game (and they are designed now with late game taking majority of play time).

And last was exactly my point. They didn't show anything in D4 that would at least try to satisfy a PoE player in that regard.
It will be a "service" and could be improved over time. But from what I've seen so far looks like Activision got tired of them wasting money and is forcing them to push out something.

 

[GrainWetski]

Honestly at this point so long it provides decent character building system and different way to approach the game, Diablo 4 would be good enough. PoE has been on this stagnant "skills get changed around but the players are all doing all the same shit of clearing screen in 1 second zoom zooming" for years now.

It will not have either of those things. It's Blizzard. They're not going to revert back to 20 years ago all of a sudden. The only things they care about now is pushing ESG propaganda and squeezing whatever money they can out of the few moronic retarded fanboys still clinging on to Blizzard of old.

 

[Kane]

I made a SSF HC seismic trapper, zoom zoom zoomed it to level 83 and then I made the mistake to go into a +% physical as elemental damage map with Einhar.
3.8k life just evaporated.

That is all. Oh and all the anti-zoomers need to git gud at the game. I am not going to waste more than 4 hours on the campaign just to play the real game.

Also Ruthless should just be renamed to Numbness. Zero loot in a game about looting is just bizarre.

 

[Reever]

Zero loot in a game about looting is just bizarre.

As opposed to 99% of the loot being completely useless and hidden by your loot filter?

 

[Kane]

Zero loot in a game about looting is just bizarre.

As opposed to 99% of the loot being completely useless and hidden by your loot filter?

The problem is the loot in Numbness isn't any better! You just have less of it. This just means less currency and less ability to craft.

 

[Reever]

The problem is the loot in Numbness isn't any better! You just have less of it. This just means less currency and less ability to craft.

I have not tried Ruthless so maybe I'm wrong but I assume that when you do find an item it is more likely to be an upgrade due to the scarcity. Especially when in normal mode you can just hop on the tradesite and get a well-rolled rare for 10c one week into the league that is going to carry you until red maps.

 

[Kane]

The problem is the loot in Numbness isn't any better! You just have less of it. This just means less currency and less ability to craft.

I have not tried Ruthless so maybe I'm wrong but I assume that when you do find an item it is more likely to be an upgrade

No. They just lowered the drop rate of items.

 

[Kjaska]

steel finally got an editor, so we can finally have some content:



cpt. Lance with some great info:



Sir Pog with another great analysis video:

 

[Ba'al]

I died at lvl 82 in the gauntlet, opened a breach in a tier 5 map and an absolutely ungodly amount of monsters clogged the screen and killed me, should have had phasing I guess. I was going for 90 but it probably wasn't going to happen with my zdps build (absolution necro, tried SRS but died lvling the gems). No 4090 for me ;(

 

[Baron Dupek]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3359438
No Balance Manifesto for 3.21

kinda bummer
so much waiting and we get nothing

 

[PapaPetro]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3359438
No Balance Manifesto for 3.21

kinda bummer
so much waiting and we get nothing

3.21 will see levels of nerfmaxxing never thought possible by ARPG players.

 

[Reever]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3359438
No Balance Manifesto for 3.21

kinda bummer
so much waiting and we get nothing

They were a nice tease for the league but I always took them with a huge grain of salt. Especially after Kalandra where they just "forgot" to include one of their biggest changes to loot drops from both the manifesto and patch notes.