X-COM OpenXcom Thread

[Alienman]

Gazers are the new Lobstermen

Usually nope out of there with my Skyranger if I still use normal weapons.

 

[NeoKino]

I had poor success with swords in FMP, it just seem if your that close then you might as well rain hellfire on those Xenos.

Plus melee tends to have bad Accuracy for me.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

it fills my heart with joy to find out people can still enjoy my ancient favourite game.
i wonder who'll give a fuck about xcock in 25 years.

 

[panzertoter]

I'm playing XPiratez for about two weeks now and I can't even find words to describe it's greatness.

 

[Alienman]

it fills my heart with joy to find out people can still enjoy my ancient favourite game.
i wonder who'll give a fuck about xcock in 25 years.

Some games never age.

It helps though with the modern improvements

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

no doubt, x-com could use lots of improvements (just look at jagged alliance 2 1.13, it's superior under every aspect other than some details of the interface), but its base is solid even after more than 20 years.

 

[Alienman]

Yup. I have said it before, maybe even in this thread, that I find it incredible funny and sad at them same time how nobody have managed to capture that feeling again. Not even Gollop himself seem to get it (fully at least) if you go by his new game.

 

[Average Manatee]

Julian Gollop needs to kickstart an X-Com Apocalypse remake or something. Get a decent budget and plan better to avoid the mistakes made before, it could be great.

 

[Alienman]

Anyone here tried the Area 51 mod? Impressions? It looks like Final Mod Pack but with extra council missions.

 

[Endemic]

Month was to turn out great, possibly +3000 points even through a alien base sits in the middle of Germany and I ran away from a Terror Mission like a girl on turn 3, BUT THEN

Didn't shoot down the infiltration ship in time? That said, apparently those missions automatically succeed in the late game to push you to attack Cydonia ASAP.

 

[Average Manatee]

I think in vanilla X-Com infiltration was bugged or something such that infiltration could never be stopped once the aliens had started. Or something like that, according to ufopaedia.

Dunno if they are still like this in OpenX-Com, or whether mods can specifically force the aliens to not be able to fail infiltration missions after a certain amount of time.

 

[Alienman]

You should do a LP

 

[Mustawd]

Do an LP The Brazilian Slaughter

 

[Alienman]

Need some help here.

Has the option "item is destroyed on research" been removed? Am I blind or something? There is a research bug in FMP, it makes it possible for me to research MiB medics for all eternity and I know this option fixes this, but for some unknown reason I can't find the option! Help!

 

[Wintermute]

It's under Advanced -> Geoscape -> 'Spend researched items' for me. But I haven't updated in a while...

 

[Alienman]

It's under Advanced -> Geoscape -> 'Spend researched items' for me. But I haven't updated in a while...

Thanks. Seems the option is gone then.

Odd. Anyway after 4-5 researches on the MiB Medic he disappeared from the research list so maybe it is intentional.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

finally i gave xpiratez a try and... old age must have struck me hard. too much, too different, all at once. only way to find anything out is to thouroughly study the ufopaedia. always hated blind researches and a small number of soldiers works only when they're as detailed as in sir-tech games.

 

[rezaf]

I think one of the things that makes the original work is how merciless it was. No tutorial or early game shit missions like newfaggotry, you will learn by getting slaughtered in eight-alien small scouts like the scrub you are, then thoroughly sodomized in Terror Missions. You either ragequit like a faggot when you get a squadwipe by Cyberdisc and Mind Rape, or you become a fan.

As I recently wrote in a different thread, I kinda disagree. NuXCOM devs came to the same conclusion you did, but what was really great about old X-COM was that it allowed you to play however YOU wanted.
Never want to lose a single soldier? No problem, save regularly and scumm to your heart's content.
Want to play ironman? Just make up your own houserule and do so.
Anything between those two poles was possible, the game didn't try to force you into a straitjacket.
Plenty such possibilities for houserules greatly increased replayability and thus longevity.
You were at liberty to do even inefficient things, like playing a no-plasma-weapons run (or even a conventional weapons only run), using no offensive psi, no flying armor, tackling difficult missions with a skyranger full of rookies,yadda yadda yadda.
Compare that to XCOM where not getting enough satellite coverage at exactly the right time could sink your game (at least it could in early vanilla).
It's systems are much tighter and allow for a lot less bullshitting around. And the game is off worse for it, especially when it comes to replayability.

Also, I feel like a huge boon of X-Com was the semi-realistic gameplay style, supported by it's excellend music and sound. Everything appeared to be perfectly balanced.
It's funny that XCOM, with much higher resolutions and realistically rendered graphics (though with a slightly cartoonish style of course) feels much more "gamey" than such an ancient game with pixel graphics.

I agree with most everything else you wrote though.
I loved Apoc, but I feel it's ultimately held back by it's not as appealing artstyle.

 

[ArchAngel]

finally i gave xpiratez a try and... old age must have struck me hard. too much, too different, all at once. only way to find anything out is to thouroughly study the ufopaedia. always hated blind researches and a small number of soldiers works only when they're as detailed as in sir-tech games.

But..but..these all have big tits :D

 

[Average Manatee]

finally i gave xpiratez a try and... old age must have struck me hard. too much, too different, all at once. only way to find anything out is to thouroughly study the ufopaedia. always hated blind researches and a small number of soldiers works only when they're as detailed as in sir-tech games.

I posted some tips on page 6. Some of it is obsolete now but it might give you some ideas. The forums have a tech tree viewer.

It used to be even worse about dumping you with way too much new shit, now you get a 3-4 month tutorial before asskickers in power armor can show up. You might want to look up how to research the Skyranger for more crew space since it can be a bit obscure.

 

[Endemic]

I think in vanilla X-Com infiltration was bugged or something such that infiltration could never be stopped once the aliens had started. Or something like that, according to ufopaedia.

Could well be a bug, vanilla X-COM did have its fair share of problems.

Dunno if they are still like this in OpenX-Com, or whether mods can specifically force the aliens to not be able to fail infiltration missions after a certain amount of time.

Haven't seen an option for it. I do know that if you shoot down the smaller Terror\Infiltration ships the AI will spawn better ones to replace them.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

finally i gave xpiratez a try and... old age must have struck me hard. too much, too different, all at once. only way to find anything out is to thouroughly study the ufopaedia. always hated blind researches and a small number of soldiers works only when they're as detailed as in sir-tech games.

I posted some tips on page 6. Some of it is obsolete now but it might give you some ideas. The forums have a tech tree viewer.

It used to be even worse about dumping you with way too much new shit, now you get a 3-4 month tutorial before asskickers in power armor can show up. You might want to look up how to research the Skyranger for more crew space since it can be a bit obscure.

if i have to "look up" something, the game has already failed.

 

[Destroid]

finally i gave xpiratez a try and... old age must have struck me hard. too much, too different, all at once. only way to find anything out is to thouroughly study the ufopaedia. always hated blind researches and a small number of soldiers works only when they're as detailed as in sir-tech games.

I posted some tips on page 6. Some of it is obsolete now but it might give you some ideas. The forums have a tech tree viewer.

It used to be even worse about dumping you with way too much new shit, now you get a 3-4 month tutorial before asskickers in power armor can show up. You might want to look up how to research the Skyranger for more crew space since it can be a bit obscure.

if i have to "look up" something, the game has already failed.

Don't you find it a little awkward playing strategy games like that?

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

i never had to "look up" anything playing for the first time x-com, jagged alliance 2 (even 1.13), civ4 fall from heaven 2, long war or [insert decent game].

 

[ArchAngel]

i never had to "look up" anything playing for the first time x-com, jagged alliance 2 (even 1.13), civ4 fall from heaven 2, long war or [insert decent game].

That depends on your goal for your first play. If you want to win instead of learn you needed to look up stuff for all those games.

I am pretty sure you don't need to look up anything for piratez if your first few failed runs are going to be just for learning.